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Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on February 12, 2015, 03:07:48 PM

To be honest I really don't care that much about what any of these things are called as long as it helps SpreadCoin and helps make SpreadCoin a successful coin in the market

I wouldn't mind seeing all the hard work paying off and the investors seeing their dreams come true for holding through the Trollocaust during the great SPREVOLUTION!! LOL Also as long as Mr. Spread continues to deliver the features for this coin being easy to use for the first time crypto users that is what I think will definitely pioneer and make SpreadCoin a truly great coin

That is what I've always loved about this coin is that Mr. Spread has always aimed to make his features for this coin as simple to use as clicking a mouse button

Me too, names are important, but in the end they are not crucial.

It's an interesting discussion and I like how it has excites our minds.

I knew that after the trollocaust the good times would come back.

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To be honest I really don't care that much about what any of these things are called as long as it helps SpreadCoin and helps make SpreadCoin a successful coin in the market

I wouldn't mind seeing all the hard work paying off and the investors seeing their dreams come true for holding through the Trollocaust during the great SPREVOLUTION!! LOL Also as long as Mr. Spread continues to deliver the features for this coin being easy to use for the first time crypto users that is what I think will definitely pioneer and make SpreadCoin a truly great coin

That is what I've always loved about this coin is that Mr. Spread has always aimed to make his features for this coin as simple to use as clicking a mouse button

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So how is the testnet round 2 going you ask?

What, nobody has asked?

Well, I'll tell you anyway.

We have about 740 DMs elected, and 1740 DMs are running.
So we are half way there (the goal is to have 1440 elected DMs)

It looks like Mr. Spread plans to slightly adjust the parameters of the voting process:

http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93.msg1872#msg1872

So in the next version we will get more votes per block (not just 10), and the DMs will need fewer votes to be elected/deelected. (not 30 votes in the last 60 blocks)

This will help the network go thru the voting process faster, so that it will be easier to get elected.

This is important because we need the competitive game of "kicking the weakest DM" to start as fast as possible.

At the moment it takes the small DMs much too long to be elected, and that's unfair and sabotages the competitive game.

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Quote from: e1ghtSpace on February 12, 2015, 02:48:11 PM

Quote from: MyFarm on February 12, 2015, 02:40:54 PM

I'd personally be ok with [something] masternodes. I call them "Spreadcoin masternodes". If you want something catchier than that and Mr. Spread agrees to it, fine. But, "masternode" needs to remain in the name.

Super masternode
Dynamic masternode
Spreadcoin masternode

Stuff like that is fine.

Spreadnode? Nope.

I like dynamic masternode. I hate spreadnode. What is the node spreading? nothing.

I hope that one day we will call it servernode.

At the moment I am ok with decentralized masternode.

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 12, 2015, 02:40:54 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them. Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

I'd personally be ok with [something] masternodes. I call them "Spreadcoin masternodes". If you want something catchier than that and Mr. Spread agrees to it, fine. But, "masternode" needs to remain in the name.

Super masternode
Dynamic masternode
Spreadcoin masternode

Stuff like that is fine.

Spreadnode? Nope.

I like dynamic masternode. I hate spreadnode. What is the node spreading? nothing.

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Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:28:11 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:24:57 PM

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

so if a build a house from the ground up i must not call it house anymore because it was build from the ground up? WTF???

What kind of house is it?

A hospital or firestation can also be considered "a house".... but they have been planned in advance and built with a special purpose to fulfil certain conditions.

In the early days, hospitals didn't look much different than normal houses... but over time people realized that those buildings have special needs.

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them. Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

I'd personally be ok with [something] masternodes. I call them "Spreadcoin masternodes". If you want something catchier than that and Mr. Spread agrees to it, fine. But, "masternode" needs to remain in the name.

Super masternode
Dynamic masternode
Spreadcoin masternode

Stuff like that is fine.

Spreadnode? Nope.

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Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:30:30 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:24:57 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:21:29 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

Well, X11 is a good example. You are saying that my miner and wolf0 optimized miner do not mine X11 because we coded them from the ground up? So my miner should be called G11 and his W11?

Why not?

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:24:57 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:21:29 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

Well, X11 is a good example. You are saying that my miner and wolf0 optimized miner do not mine X11 because we coded them from the ground up? So my miner should be called G11 and his W11?

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:24:57 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:21:29 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

so if a build a house from the ground up i must not call it house anymore because it was build from the ground up? WTF???

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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

I'v never been so happy to be corrected Cheesy

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Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:23:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:21:29 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

From scratch. That is the definition of a new item. Building it from the ground up. Like building a car from the ground up. When that happens you never end up with the same car. Another popular phrase: back to the drawing board. New idea, new name.

Edit: This is no different than SpreadX11 or X11. Similar code, but 1 major difference!

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:21:29 PM

Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

Yes, he did say exactly what i said: it is an implementation from scratch of the same thing.

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Quote from: girino on February 12, 2015, 02:18:41 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

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Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

Didn't you read what Mr. Spread just said?

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 02:09:16 PM

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them.

it IS identical to DRK MasterNodes. Its an identical masternode, coded from scratch, but still the same. And we did borrow it from them, even part of the code. So stop sweeping it under the carpet.

Quote

Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

We will look like a scam coin if we do the same thing, with a shared code base, but a different name.

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We have all been confused about the similarity until Mr. Spread showed up. The average user will be confused even more. Call them Spreadnodes, or etc, so that the confusion will end. If Spreadnodes are an improvement we need to let the world know that it started here first.

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 12, 2015, 02:09:00 PM

Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on February 12, 2015, 02:04:07 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

Yes, I've always said Mr. Spread coded the new implementation himself. But notice he called them masternodes? Because the concept he coded is that of a masternode.

I wouldn't call Spreadcoin masternodes Darkcoin masternodes and I wouldn't call Darkcoin masternodes Spreadcoin masternodes. But both implementations are masternodes.

Okay gotcha lol I was just curious if that made a difference or not but mainly just making conversation lol

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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them. Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin.

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Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on February 12, 2015, 02:04:07 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

Yes, I've always said Mr. Spread coded the new implementation himself. But notice he called them masternodes? Because the concept he coded is that of a masternode.

I wouldn't call Spreadcoin masternodes Darkcoin masternodes and I wouldn't call Darkcoin masternodes Spreadcoin masternodes. But both implementations are masternodes.

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Quote from: Jestah on February 12, 2015, 02:01:50 PM

Quote from: MyFarm on February 12, 2015, 01:57:00 PM

Quote from: Jestah on February 12, 2015, 01:52:49 PM

Quote from: Ezravdb on February 12, 2015, 01:30:56 PM

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?

The reference nodes.

Oh, it was my understanding that they were never intended to remain. Was I mistaken?

Thanks for answering!

No, they're not intended to remain. But until they are successfully removed (Evan has struggled a bit with this) Darkcoin's masternode implementation is centralized. Now, I do believe they will be removed at some point but it has taken Evan a lot longer than I anticipated it would. It has been a bit surprising how long it has taken in fact. I still hold plenty of Darkcoin and believe in it, but until Evan is able to remove the reference nodes, I'm not a buyer.

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