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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right

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Quote from: Ezravdb on February 12, 2015, 01:30:56 PM

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?

The reference nodes.

Oh, it was my understanding that they were never intended to remain. Was I mistaken?

Thanks for answering!

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Quote from: Jestah on February 12, 2015, 01:52:49 PM

Quote from: Ezravdb on February 12, 2015, 01:30:56 PM

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?

The reference nodes.

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Quote from: Ezravdb on February 12, 2015, 01:30:56 PM

that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes.

Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs?

Thanks!

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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

That is what I love to hear Mr. Spread

You are the one who knows how you have made your coin and the implementations that you have put forth into your coin

Wonderful work by the way

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Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future.

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Hm, can you imagine?

Running your DM on a synology NAS?

I have this synology 4-bay device:

It runs 24/7 and uses very little electricity.

I heard that you can run your own java apps on those machines....

so why not make it easy for all those NAS users to install a DM on their silent reliable machines that are on 24/7?

I found something in a synology forum:

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=79335

http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=92287

Could it be possible to create a java version of spreadcoin that is able to run in DM mode?

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that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt

but enough of the drk vs spr

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:40:30 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:38:48 PM

A DRK masternode can also be run on a local computer. It's not recommended, and it will only cause you headaches... but it is still possible... hm....

It took me just a few minutes to set up a MN on my local computer. If for nothing else that is a major difference between the two.

Yeah, we should absolutely use that in our marketing campaign once decentralized masternodes are available for main net.

"Do you have a spare laptop?"

"What about a NAS?"

"Ever thought about running a Decentralized Masternode on them?"

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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN?

That's basically DRK MN.

But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken".
The trolls will not agree.

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Quote from: Mr. Spread on February 12, 2015, 01:02:03 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

But there, you called it "masternode" yourself... Grin

This whole discussion we are having here is about what to call this servernode.

Masternode for DRK.

Decentralized Masternode for SPR?

Are you ok with that, Mr. Spread?

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Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

How is that unethical?

Evan Duffield built upon litecoin code, changed it dramatically and renamed it to x11 coin.
Was that unethical? No.

But MrSpread takes DRK's codebase and changes it. He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

Thinking about it more, DMN sounds good. We respect darkcoin by keeping MN, but at the same time show's its uniqueness, in that SPR was the first to have decentralized reference nodes.

I guess we should have a poll to decide what abbreviation we should use for "decentralized masternodes"

DM

or

DMN

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Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:56:53 PM

He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own.

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:42:32 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:39:48 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:24:08 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

It's a little subjective.

Again, using a car theme here

BTC is a 1.3 1999 diesel engine.
DRK is a 2L petrol V6.
SPR (if works on realese) is the same engine as DRK but a V8 (reference nodes/competing for a place in the MN chart/fluctuating amount needed for MN)

Ofcourse DRK has the Dev to make DRK a V12 Cheesy

But wouldn't it be reasonable to call ours a V8 and not a V6? Ours is different if only slightly improved. If we call both engines a V6 then people will not know the difference.

Yes, if it's a V8 then say it's a V8.

So if spreadcoin is the first coin to have decentralized MN's, then boast that.

Call them, DMN (Decentralized MasterNodes).

I completely agree with this. We have many people saying that it is unethical and wrong to do this though. SPR's masternodes are different, for that reason we should call them something else. Decentralized MasterNodes is good, Spreadnodes is good, heck Smartnodes is good. We just need something that makes ours obviously different. If we don't change the name it will trash our marketing.

I think nobody has every complained or has a problem with us calling them DMs, or decentralized masternodes.

But we should really be consistent with it, and from now on, ALWAYS use the name decentralized masternodes and the abbreviation DM.

Let's make it a meme

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:42:32 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:39:48 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:24:08 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

It's a little subjective.

Again, using a car theme here

BTC is a 1.3 1999 diesel engine.
DRK is a 2L petrol V6.
SPR (if works on realese) is the same engine as DRK but a V8 (reference nodes/competing for a place in the MN chart/fluctuating amount needed for MN)

Ofcourse DRK has the Dev to make DRK a V12 Cheesy

But wouldn't it be reasonable to call ours a V8 and not a V6? Ours is different if only slightly improved. If we call both engines a V6 then people will not know the difference.

Yes, if it's a V8 then say it's a V8.

So if spreadcoin is the first coin to have decentralized MN's, then boast that.

Call them, DMN (Decentralized MasterNodes).

I completely agree with this. We have many people saying that it is unethical and wrong to do this though. SPR's masternodes are different, for that reason we should call them something else. Decentralized MasterNodes is good, Spreadnodes is good, heck Smartnodes is good. We just need something that makes ours obviously different. If we don't change the name it will trash our marketing.

How is that unethical?

Evan Duffield built upon litecoin code, changed it dramatically and renamed it to x11 coin.
Was that unethical? No.

But MrSpread takes DRK's codebase and changes it. He then takes the MN code and changes that also.

Thinking about it more, DMN sounds good. We respect darkcoin by keeping MN, but at the same time show's its uniqueness, in that SPR was the first to have decentralized reference nodes.

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Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:39:48 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:24:08 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

It's a little subjective.

Again, using a car theme here

BTC is a 1.3 1999 diesel engine.
DRK is a 2L petrol V6.
SPR (if works on realese) is the same engine as DRK but a V8 (reference nodes/competing for a place in the MN chart/fluctuating amount needed for MN)

Ofcourse DRK has the Dev to make DRK a V12 Cheesy

But wouldn't it be reasonable to call ours a V8 and not a V6? Ours is different if only slightly improved. If we call both engines a V6 then people will not know the difference.

Yes, if it's a V8 then say it's a V8.

So if spreadcoin is the first coin to have decentralized MN's, then boast that.

Call them, DMN (Decentralized MasterNodes).

I completely agree with this. We have many people saying that it is unethical and wrong to do this though. SPR's masternodes are different, for that reason we should call them something else. Decentralized MasterNodes is good, Spreadnodes is good, heck Smartnodes is good. We just need something that makes ours obviously different. If we don't change the name it will trash our marketing.

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Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:38:48 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:22:17 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

Hm, let me do a code analysis first, and I'll get back to you.

Meanwhile define "difference".

Anything that has any level of variation. One thing that is separate from another by even a minuscule amount. Essentially not a copy/paste job. And what do you mean with a VPS? I'm running it on my local computer now. Isn't everyone doing that?

A DRK masternode can also be run on a local computer. It's not recommended, and it will only cause you headaches... but it is still possible... hm....

It took me just a few minutes to set up a MN on my local computer. If for nothing else that is a major difference between the two.

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: defunctec on February 12, 2015, 12:24:08 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

It's a little subjective.

Again, using a car theme here

BTC is a 1.3 1999 diesel engine.
DRK is a 2L petrol V6.
SPR (if works on realese) is the same engine as DRK but a V8 (reference nodes/competing for a place in the MN chart/fluctuating amount needed for MN)

Ofcourse DRK has the Dev to make DRK a V12 Cheesy

But wouldn't it be reasonable to call ours a V8 and not a V6? Ours is different if only slightly improved. If we call both engines a V6 then people will not know the difference.

Yes, if it's a V8 then say it's a V8.

So if spreadcoin is the first coin to have decentralized MN's, then boast that.

Call them, DMN (Decentralized MasterNodes).

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Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:22:17 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:16:39 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 12, 2015, 12:14:12 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 12, 2015, 12:08:36 PM

I enjoy those discussions.

I don't even notice the trolls anymore... it's like they have turned into a quiet background noise.... ssssssshhhhhh.... like white noise.....

Cheesy

But aren't SPR's masternodes different than DRK's masternodes?

Hm, let me do a code analysis first, and I'll get back to you.

Meanwhile define "difference".

Anything that has any level of variation. One thing that is separate from another by even a minuscule amount. Essentially not a copy/paste job. And what do you mean with a VPS? I'm running it on my local computer now. Isn't everyone doing that?

A DRK masternode can also be run on a local computer. It's not recommended, and it will only cause you headaches... but it is still possible... hm....

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Children, we are trying to have an intelligent discussion here. Can you please go play somewhere else?

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