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Quote from: mrcashking on February 11, 2015, 09:41:56 PM

the name Spreadnodes isn't bad at all to me. But we just have to make sure to add the words Decentralized Masternodes next to it on graphics and stuff.

Spreadnodes
- Decentralized Masternodes -

That's it!

Best suggestion yet.

If you go to wikipedia and look up darkcoin, you will see that their definition of a masternode is:

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Darksend's mixing is performed by Masternodes, servers operating on a decentralized volunteer network which have the responsibility of signing the transactions.

Now what if our future wiki site is saying something like:

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All those services are performed by Spreadnodes, decentralized masternodes (link to darkcoin) that use a decentralized system of blablabla....

I would be ok with that.

Proper attribution (especially when it comes to open source attribution) doesn't mean that you need to put the name of the first guy who had that idea on your product...

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Are we really having the bit/satoshi argument here.

Refer to it as the industry standard reference. No name change necessary.

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Quote from: mrcashking on February 11, 2015, 09:41:56 PM

the name Spreadnodes isn't bad at all to me. But we just have to make sure to add the words Decentralized Masternodes next to it on graphics and stuff.

Spreadnodes
- Decentralized Masternodes -

/\ This is perfect marketing. /\

Given enough advertising we can eventually drop the second part and it will become universally ours.

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the name Spreadnodes isn't bad at all to me. But we just have to make sure to add the words Decentralized Masternodes next to it on graphics and stuff.

Spreadnodes
- Decentralized Masternodes -

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 08:08:51 PM

It will be a huge mistake if we change the name away from masternode. Block. Blockchain. Masternode. These are terms everyone knows. Should we call the blockchain a Spreadchain while we're at it?

PLEASE do not change the name of a technology everyone already knows. While Mr. Spread rewrote masternode code, the idea behind it is still the same. They're masternodes. Evan Duffield deserves the respect of not renaming his technology AND we will be causing ourselves headaches as well.

If you change the name you're going to be explaining what a fucking Spreadnode is 400x a day.

InstantX is also a known technology that works over the masternodes. DO NOT change the name!

Let's see if Mr. Spread decides to do anon and if he does, how he implements it before we discuss name changes there.

PLEASE put the name changes to rest for now.

Amongst all the anno solutions,cryptonite is the best.

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Quote from: georgem on February 11, 2015, 09:34:24 PM

Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

I also have a lot of respect for eduffield, and not just because of darkcoin...

But also because of X11, Dark Gravity Wave, and more.

Mr. Spread decided to call his hashing algorithm SpreadX11.... so I assume that's also his way of how he pays respect to eduffield.
He didn't call it Spreadhash or something like that for a reason.

Maybe we can do the same thing with masternodes?

Keep the -nodes part of the name, but add Spread- to it, making it spreadnodes.

(so people will know where we came from.)

It's like what pepsi has done with coca cola.
They took -cola and added pepsi... voila: pepsi cola.

You are absolutely right. If we take Evan's idea and keep the name its stealing. Our product is slightly different so it requires a different name.

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

I also have a lot of respect for eduffield, and not just because of darkcoin...

But also because of X11, Dark Gravity Wave, and more.

Mr. Spread decided to call his hashing algorithm SpreadX11.... so I assume that's also his way of how he pays respect to eduffield.
He didn't call it Spreadhash or something like that for a reason.

Maybe we can do the same thing with masternodes?

Keep the -nodes part of the name, but add Spread- to it, making it spreadnodes.

(so people will know where we came from.)

It's like what pepsi has done with coca cola.
They took -cola and added pepsi... voila: pepsi cola.

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Spreadcoin may not be vastly different than DRK, but it is different enough to call it something else entirely.

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Quote from: njs811 on February 11, 2015, 09:14:57 PM

Apple has done a TON of marketing to teach people to say Iphone instead of smartphone. Everyone now calls an Iphone and Iphone. Every other phone has a specific name but is easily called a smartphone. Psychologically speaking they are not even in the same category anymore.

Good point!

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

Ever seen a church with a different name? Same God, different name. Baptist, Presbyterian, Catholic, Church of Christ, Church of God, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Christian Church. To name a few. It's all the same when you look at the big picture, but the devil is in the details (no pun intended). Calling a product a different name is a normal practice in marketing. How about different names for the same graphics card? There are SEVEN different names for the R9 280x. What's different about the card? Not much.

Asus R9 280x
Club3d R9 280x
Gigabyte R9 280x
HIS R9 280x
MSI R9 280x
Sapphire R9 280x Toxic OC
Sapphire R9 280x Vapor-X OC

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Quote from: njs811 on February 11, 2015, 09:19:11 PM

Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

That's not an unethical action at all. Companies do it all the time. Its marketing 101.

Just because some companies do it doesn't make it ethical. Make no mistake, a substantial number of corporations are very evil enterprises. Cryptocurrency is supposed to be one of the tools the common man has to help initiate change and take the power away from such companies and governments. I'm not going to be a part of a coin that is doing the same thing.

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Quote from: girino on February 11, 2015, 09:09:19 PM

If they work in the same way and perform the same tasks, with only a different implementation, then YES, they should name them masternodes. It makes no sense to rename something that performs the same functions just because you don't like, or compete with, the people who created it. It like apple calling smartphones "intelligent phones" just because blackberry where the ones who coined the term "smartphone".

If I am not mistaken, there were mobile phones with extra features in the 90s called Palms...

They could also be considered "smart phones" in hindsight but they chose a terrible name for their product.

So, I don't think that the company that coined the phrase "smartphone" is also the first company that actually produced what we consider "smart" phones.

What if masternodes is auch a "terrible name" too? Grin

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

That's not an unethical action at all. Companies do it all the time. Its marketing 101.

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Quote from: MyFarm on February 11, 2015, 09:15:34 PM

I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

Want to sell me all your coins cheap then lol

Don't worry the DEV knows how to handle things.

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A name can make or break a product. Dogecoin isn't that great, but its name and publicity made it huge. In reality its a ridiculous coin with no potential for a future. We have to pay attention to our names because it could make or break our advertising.

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I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.

I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.

But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.

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Quote from: girino on February 11, 2015, 09:09:19 PM

Quote from: georgem on February 11, 2015, 08:49:58 PM

Quote from: girino on February 11, 2015, 08:42:51 PM

well, it`s then emerging technology SPR is improving upon. Doesn't really matters if it is established or not. Just that SPR is improving it, so why sweep that under the carpet? Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and masternodes is a DRK idea, let's attribute it correctly. Lets render unto SPR what is really SPR's (decentralization and instant transactions with SPR implementation)...

Are we improving it? Or are we rewriting it?

improving on it. 90% of SPR code is still code from bitcoin and darkcoin. It makes no sense to "rewrite" anything.

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DRK can own masternodes, it's their idea, their specific implementation.

But they don't have a patent or naming rights for every technology that thinks about using servers as additional actors in a cryptocurrency.

No, they don't, it's simply the ethical way to treat intellectual property: attribute it to the people that had the idea in the first place.

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So what if another coin comes along that has nothing to do with darkcoin and decides to use servers..... should it call those entities Masternodes out of respect for darkcoin?

If they work in the same way and perform the same tasks, with only a different implementation, then YES, they should name them masternodes. It makes no sense to rename something that performs the same functions just because you don't like, or compete with, the people who created it. It like apple calling smartphones "intelligent phones" just because blackberry where the ones who coined the term "smartphone".

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Ofcourse not!

Apple has done a TON of marketing to teach people to say Iphone instead of smartphone. Everyone now calls an Iphone and Iphone. Every other phone has a specific name but is easily called a smartphone. Psychologically speaking they are not even in the same category anymore.

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Quote from: georgem on February 11, 2015, 08:49:58 PM

Quote from: girino on February 11, 2015, 08:42:51 PM

well, it`s then emerging technology SPR is improving upon. Doesn't really matters if it is established or not. Just that SPR is improving it, so why sweep that under the carpet? Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and masternodes is a DRK idea, let's attribute it correctly. Lets render unto SPR what is really SPR's (decentralization and instant transactions with SPR implementation)...

Are we improving it? Or are we rewriting it?

improving on it. 90% of SPR code is still code from bitcoin and darkcoin. It makes no sense to "rewrite" anything.

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DRK can own masternodes, it's their idea, their specific implementation.

But they don't have a patent or naming rights for every technology that thinks about using servers as additional actors in a cryptocurrency.

No, they don't, it's simply the ethical way to treat intellectual property: attribute it to the people that had the idea in the first place.

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So what if another coin comes along that has nothing to do with darkcoin and decides to use servers..... should it call those entities Masternodes out of respect for darkcoin?

If they work in the same way and perform the same tasks, with only a different implementation, then YES, they should name them masternodes. It makes no sense to rename something that performs the same functions just because you don't like, or compete with, the people who created it. It like apple calling smartphones "intelligent phones" just because blackberry where the ones who coined the term "smartphone".

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Ofcourse not!

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Quote from: georgem on February 11, 2015, 09:03:11 PM

Quote from: njs811 on February 11, 2015, 08:55:56 PM

This is the same as spreadx11. Everyone knows x11 adding spread only makes it obvious that its different. If we call them servernodes people will understand.

My personal favorite is servernodes.

It's self-explanatory, and it cuts any ties we have with darkcoin ...

I would also be ok with spreadnodes, because it continues the theme we started with spreadx11...

maybe this can be our own tradition of adding the name spread to everything...

Anyway... I am just thinking out loud here... but those thoughts must be had.... it's time to find our identity...

I agree, and servernodes sounds more professional. However, if we call it speradnodes it strengthens our identity. Like adding Mc in front of everything at McDonalds.

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Quote from: njs811 on February 11, 2015, 08:55:56 PM

This is the same as spreadx11. Everyone knows x11 adding spread only makes it obvious that its different. If we call them servernodes people will understand.

My personal favorite is servernodes.

It's self-explanatory, and it cuts any ties we have with darkcoin ...

I would also be ok with spreadnodes, first because those nodes ARE really spreading stuff around (transactions, etc...)

but also because it continues the theme we started with spreadx11...

maybe this can be our own tradition of adding the name spread to everything...

Anyway... I am just thinking out loud here... but those thoughts must be had.... it's time to find our identity...

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