Ok, I'll engage knowing that your post will be deleted as soon Dan is back..
Big red letters, cursing and nothing constructive.
But you do in a strange way ask a valid enough question.
The reason for the pre-sale is raise funds for the further development of syscoin and all the features we have already implemented and will implement in the future.
We know from experience that this is not cheap and that everybody wants a slice of the cake.
We also know that in some circles they dont give a flying toss about bitcoins/altcoins and want fiat to do any work.
Syscoin has a lot of potential, but in order to really give it a proper boost and rise above the fold sort of speak we need funds. This should over time also increase the value to the people who got a portion of the pre-sale.
This is what the pre-sale is for.
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I have a dumb question.... oh and yes I am an investor of the Pre Sale.
WHAT THE HECK DOES FUD stand for?
WHAT THE HECK DOES FUD stand for?
you guys talking about everything based on the investor are greedy, and they want dump and pump coins then kill the coins. but i think you are the biggest pumper, and if you are not greedy, why you make presale, don't tell me you want engage the charity but short of money. this is all of your shit excuse。 this is open thread， everyone can say anything here they want, don't put your fuck big mouth on those who give you money.
No, what I am saying is that some investors just want to pump/dump and in this process kill the coin.
We don't want to participate in that with syscoin as this is not the purpose. Simples
We don't want to participate in that with syscoin as this is not the purpose. Simples
Yep and as further evidence of that we have min/max caps for presale purchases. We don't want a centralization of wealth even via presale. It would be completely backwards if we let someone purchase say 75btc+ of Syscoin presale. They could crash the market single handedly... or pump/dump single handedly. This doesn't align with our team values nor our long term goals/vision for Syscoin. Coins that encourage this kind of thing are dead from day one; soon as that holder dumps their value crashes to the ground.
People who invested in Bitcoin when it was pretty much worthless were told they were insane. I wonder where those people are now? Probably saying the same thing about every altcoin. This coin is bringing Ethereum type innovation to the blockchain and it is doing it NOW, not some time in the future. It is natural to have concerns and doubts, all altcoins are a risk. The fact is if any altcoin is going to succeed it's going to be one with innovations that help real world adoption and SYScoin has that. It is unlikely to make you rich - investments generally don't do that and that is what this is. This is a chance to be part of Altcoin 2.0 - the first real developments since LTC. I think it's worth taking a risk on.
Honestly guys, something's going to need to change here. Regardless of how fairly priced you may think the IPO is, and regardless how fairly priced the IPO may actually be, investors clearly don't feel the same way. How can a coin like this succeed without happy, supportive investors rallying behind it and building hype? Currently all the FUD is drowning out all the positive talk about Syscoin and its innovative features, and that's a shame to see. If something isn't done to quell investors' fears then I'm afraid the negative stigma will continue through the coin's launch, resulting both in less raised during the IPO phase and zero momentum at launch.
Easy now, we are less than 3 days into the pre-sale. We have lots more info and videos etc coming out.
Most of the FUD was about people screaming murder over wrongly calculated market cap numbers (Not by us mind you) and the likes.
We are still looking at the mining numbers and should have new about this over the next 12 hours or so.
But yes, I do agree. We would also prefer to talk about the innovative features.
I see what you mean and appreciate the honest response. I just hate to see a coin with so much potential get caught up in FUD like this. I feel like you guys know what you're doing and I hope you're able to make the right decisions; it must be hard as hell to manage all this while at the same time preparing for the actual launch, and for that I salute you.
BTW I did invest 1 BTC into the presale, so I do have a vested interest. I'm curious to see exactly what else you guys have up your sleeves for the launch -- I've noted a few occasions where you've mentioned you're holding some cards close to your chest. Any idea when you will be playing these cards?
its expensive but i will give it a try its just bits ... not real money 
its just bits ... not real money Thanks Bruce
Honestly guys, something's going to need to change here. Regardless of how fairly priced you may think the IPO is, and regardless how fairly priced the IPO may actually be, investors clearly don't feel the same way. How can a coin like this succeed without happy, supportive investors rallying behind it and building hype? Currently all the FUD is drowning out all the positive talk about Syscoin and its innovative features, and that's a shame to see. If something isn't done to quell investors' fears then I'm afraid the negative stigma will continue through the coin's launch, resulting both in less raised during the IPO phase and zero momentum at launch.
Easy now, we are less than 3 days into the pre-sale. We have lots more info and videos etc coming out.
Most of the FUD was about people screaming murder over wrongly calculated market cap numbers (Not by us mind you) and the likes.
We are still looking at the mining numbers and should have new about this over the next 12 hours or so.
But yes, I do agree. We would also prefer to talk about the innovative features.
Honestly guys, something's going to need to change here. Regardless of how fairly priced you may think the IPO is, and regardless how fairly priced the IPO may actually be, investors clearly don't feel the same way. How can a coin like this succeed without happy, supportive investors rallying behind it and building hype? Currently all the FUD is drowning out the positive talk about Syscoin and its innovative features, and that's a shame to see. If something isn't done to quell investors' fears then I'm afraid the negative stigma will continue through the coin's launch, resulting both in less raised during the IPO phase and zero momentum at launch.
huh.. I'm an happy supportive investor and I"m fine with it... and I don't know what fears you are talking about..?
If you don't like it, don't invest..
Honestly guys, something's going to need to change here. Regardless of how fairly priced you may think the IPO is, and regardless how fairly priced the IPO may actually be, investors clearly don't feel the same way. How can a coin like this succeed without happy, supportive investors rallying behind it and building hype? Currently all the FUD is drowning out the positive talk about Syscoin and its innovative features, and that's a shame to see. If something isn't done to quell investors' fears then I'm afraid the negative stigma will continue through the coin's launch, resulting both in less raised during the IPO phase and zero momentum at launch.
its expensive but i will give it a try its just bits ... not real money
its just bits ... not real money Oh dont worry, his posts wont stay up for long..
Look we don't mind constructive criticism at all, but strait up FUD for the sake of FUD we cant allow.
Its really as simple as that
Its really as simple as that
It's fact.Not FUD!!!!!!!!! So greedy dev!
Mate, what you are doing now is FUD. nothing else..
You said it once, no problem with that.. You then continued into FUD land and it will be moderated.
Oh dont worry, his posts wont stay up for long..
Look we don't mind constructive criticism at all, but strait up FUD for the sake of FUD we cant allow.
Its really as simple as that
Its really as simple as that
1500BTC for only 15% of all syscoin!!! Syscoin pre-sale price is very very very expensive compared with Crypti.
Why compare this coin to another coin. Not all coins are created equal.
No coin presale is worth 1500 BTC! 207 btc gone waste 
1500BTC for only 10% of all syscoin!!! Syscoin pre-sale price is very very very expensive compared with Crypti.
.... Would maybe help you actually had your facts right.. I mean you could try and actually read the OP. Just a suggestion.
15%
UP to 15%. Again please read the OP..
No coin presale is worth 1500 BTC! 207 btc gone waste
1500BTC for only 10% of all syscoin!!! Syscoin pre-sale price is very very very expensive compared with Crypti.
.... Would maybe help you actually had your facts right.. I mean you could try and actually read the OP. Just a suggestion.
15%
No coin presale is worth 1500 BTC! 207 btc gone waste
1500BTC for only 10% of all syscoin!!! Syscoin pre-sale price is very very very expensive compared with Crypti.
.... Would maybe help you actually had your facts right.. I mean you could try and actually read the OP. Just a suggestion.
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Personally I am probably looking for a late second phase entry. Depends on how the first round goes. I don't mind paying another 10% if it means I get to keep my coins trading for a while longer.
Personally I am probably looking for a late second phase entry. Depends on how the first round goes. I don't mind paying another 10% if it means I get to keep my coins trading for a while longer.
It is a good point, will take it to the team and we will have a chat about it.
I invested in 3btc, but now regret 
Invest sys is high risk
Invest sys is high risk
I am interested in why you now think its not a good idea.
Did you listen to the FUD too much or?
the TTL BTC got from presale are almost steady, so I guess the final amount may not touch 250 BTC, but it's good enough for the DEVS work.
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