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newbie
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tl;dr?

There will be people working on this coin for at least the next 6 months. Probably longer as this coin will be great and make lots of people rich.

Devs will get a little bit of the presale btc each month.

If devs bail another team will take over.

Time for moon.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
The funny thing is the demographic for Sys, i.e people who actually want to do REAL business on the blockchain, not children playing around on their last day of summer break with their allowance money, do not give a damn if it didn't work on day 1 just so long as it works period. A week of hiccups is nothing compared to years of profit ahead.
hero member
Activity: 957
Merit: 766
We have now reached the deadline for the ultimatum we previously issued to the Syscoin team, and while we are entering in to a review period; we have made the following preliminary decision (that is subject to change).

Our preliminary decision is that we will not be refunding the coin, but with the agreement of the Syscoin development team, will be changing release and development schedules moving forward. This decision will either be confirmed (or rejected and modified) publicly at 6PM GMT on Tuesday 26th August, 2014. While we could make the decision in full now (which would be to not refund), this review period will also include us engaging with various members of the community, over the best course of action to take. Please do not scream FUD at us, engage with us constructively.

While the launch of the coin was fraught with issues, the coin still launched. It worked at first, albeit erratically - and before the blockchain and daemon encountered severe issues, was in a usable state. This was not the case for everybody, but it was the case for many. At this stage, because initial obligations were met, we moved in to the inspection period (originally intended to last 72 hours). During this period, the coin encountered a number of major issues and became non-usable very rapidly.

As a result of this, and general public opinion, we issued a deadline-based ultimatum to the Syscoin team in regards to steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that funds would be released. If they took no action or made no progress, then they wouldn't be seeing a single satoshi. If they made good progress, we would re-review. We are now at the end of the ultimatum window, and we have made an initial judgement based on what the developers of the coin have done, and what they are continuing to do.

However, we are not comfortable to release the funds in full to the developers at this stage, and have put the following agreement to the Syscoin team. We are putting, and will be putting our own resources on the line in order to help protect the supporters of the coin, and encourage general adoption of this. I personally have faith in this coin, despite the abysmal launch - though this did not play a part in my decision.

Clause 1
Staggered release of funds.

The escrowed funds will not be released in full. They will be released in 6 monthly payments. The first payment will be for 250 BTC once this agreement is made formal, and then there will be an additional 200 BTC released each month for the next five months. At the end of this period, the Syscoin accrued during the early buy walls, will also be released. Release each month will be subject to the developers actively working on the coin, and making good progress in any necessary areas (to be determined on a monthly basis).

Clause 2
Moolah to support developers.

Moopay LTD will provide the Syscoin development team with access to our team of developers, for assistance with development issues, for a period of 6 months. Help will be given on a best-effort basis, with priority help granted for urgent issues.

Clause 3
Moolah to guarantee continued development.

If the developers decide to bail in full, and abandon development of the coin before this agreement is up; then Moopay LTD will supply a minimum of 3 developers to continue work on the coin - until the end of the agreement window. Moopay LTD will then continue to supply developers until adequate external contributors can be found. Moopay LTD will guarantee priority 24/7 response to urgent issues, and best-effort response to all other cases. This includes fixing broken services, the QT wallet, and blockchain issues. We will also seek to expand upon the coin when there are no issues. Moopay LTD will also always make a developer available for urgent issues, regardless of contributor state, for a minimum of 18 months from the time this agreement is made formal.

Our (now expanded) development team has experiencing in working for Microsoft, Citigroup, Telefonica and more - and each and every member has substantial experience in crypto development (including daemon and reference client work).
Thanks! I like this text.


We have now reached the deadline for the ultimatum we previously issued to the Syscoin team, and while we are entering in to a review period; we have made the following preliminary decision (that is subject to change).

Our preliminary decision is that we will not be refunding the coin, but with the agreement of the Syscoin development team, will be changing release and development schedules moving forward. This decision will either be confirmed (or rejected and modified) publicly at 6PM GMT on Tuesday 26th August, 2014. While we could make the decision in full now (which would be to not refund), this review period will also include us engaging with various members of the community, over the best course of action to take. Please do not scream FUD at us, engage with us constructively.

While the launch of the coin was fraught with issues, the coin still launched. It worked at first, albeit erratically - and before the blockchain and daemon encountered severe issues, was in a usable state. This was not the case for everybody, but it was the case for many. At this stage, because initial obligations were met, we moved in to the inspection period (originally intended to last 72 hours). During this period, the coin encountered a number of major issues and became non-usable very rapidly.

As a result of this, and general public opinion, we issued a deadline-based ultimatum to the Syscoin team in regards to steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that funds would be released. If they took no action or made no progress, then they wouldn't be seeing a single satoshi. If they made good progress, we would re-review. We are now at the end of the ultimatum window, and we have made an initial judgement based on what the developers of the coin have done, and what they are continuing to do.

However, we are not comfortable to release the funds in full to the developers at this stage, and have put the following agreement to the Syscoin team. We are putting, and will be putting our own resources on the line in order to help protect the supporters of the coin, and encourage general adoption of this. I personally have faith in this coin, despite the abysmal launch - though this did not play a part in my decision.

Clause 1
Staggered release of funds.

The escrowed funds will not be released in full. They will be released in 6 monthly payments. The first payment will be for 250 BTC once this agreement is made formal, and then there will be an additional 200 BTC released each month for the next five months. At the end of this period, the Syscoin accrued during the early buy walls, will also be released. Release each month will be subject to the developers actively working on the coin, and making good progress in any necessary areas (to be determined on a monthly basis).

Clause 2
Moolah to support developers.

Moopay LTD will provide the Syscoin development team with access to our team of developers, for assistance with development issues, for a period of 6 months. Help will be given on a best-effort basis, with priority help granted for urgent issues.

Clause 3
Moolah to guarantee continued development.

If the developers decide to bail in full, and abandon development of the coin before this agreement is up; then Moopay LTD will supply a minimum of 3 developers to continue work on the coin - until the end of the agreement window. Moopay LTD will then continue to supply developers until adequate external contributors can be found. Moopay LTD will guarantee priority 24/7 response to urgent issues, and best-effort response to all other cases. This includes fixing broken services, the QT wallet, and blockchain issues. We will also seek to expand upon the coin when there are no issues. Moopay LTD will also always make a developer available for urgent issues, regardless of contributor state, for a minimum of 18 months from the time this agreement is made formal.

Our (now expanded) development team has experiencing in working for Microsoft, Citigroup, Telefonica and more - and each and every member has substantial experience in crypto development (including daemon and reference client work).

tl;dr?

I am newbie here, what is mean "tl;dr"?
legendary
Activity: 1188
Merit: 1001
magically mega is downloading it
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
We have now reached the deadline for the ultimatum we previously issued to the Syscoin team, and while we are entering in to a review period; we have made the following preliminary decision (that is subject to change).

Our preliminary decision is that we will not be refunding the coin, but with the agreement of the Syscoin development team, will be changing release and development schedules moving forward. This decision will either be confirmed (or rejected and modified) publicly at 6PM GMT on Tuesday 26th August, 2014. While we could make the decision in full now (which would be to not refund), this review period will also include us engaging with various members of the community, over the best course of action to take. Please do not scream FUD at us, engage with us constructively.

While the launch of the coin was fraught with issues, the coin still launched. It worked at first, albeit erratically - and before the blockchain and daemon encountered severe issues, was in a usable state. This was not the case for everybody, but it was the case for many. At this stage, because initial obligations were met, we moved in to the inspection period (originally intended to last 72 hours). During this period, the coin encountered a number of major issues and became non-usable very rapidly.

As a result of this, and general public opinion, we issued a deadline-based ultimatum to the Syscoin team in regards to steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that funds would be released. If they took no action or made no progress, then they wouldn't be seeing a single satoshi. If they made good progress, we would re-review. We are now at the end of the ultimatum window, and we have made an initial judgement based on what the developers of the coin have done, and what they are continuing to do.

However, we are not comfortable to release the funds in full to the developers at this stage, and have put the following agreement to the Syscoin team. We are putting, and will be putting our own resources on the line in order to help protect the supporters of the coin, and encourage general adoption of this. I personally have faith in this coin, despite the abysmal launch - though this did not play a part in my decision.

Clause 1
Staggered release of funds.

The escrowed funds will not be released in full. They will be released in 6 monthly payments. The first payment will be for 250 BTC once this agreement is made formal, and then there will be an additional 200 BTC released each month for the next five months. At the end of this period, the Syscoin accrued during the early buy walls, will also be released. Release each month will be subject to the developers actively working on the coin, and making good progress in any necessary areas (to be determined on a monthly basis).

Clause 2
Moolah to support developers.

Moopay LTD will provide the Syscoin development team with access to our team of developers, for assistance with development issues, for a period of 6 months. Help will be given on a best-effort basis, with priority help granted for urgent issues.

Clause 3
Moolah to guarantee continued development.

If the developers decide to bail in full, and abandon development of the coin before this agreement is up; then Moopay LTD will supply a minimum of 3 developers to continue work on the coin - until the end of the agreement window. Moopay LTD will then continue to supply developers until adequate external contributors can be found. Moopay LTD will guarantee priority 24/7 response to urgent issues, and best-effort response to all other cases. This includes fixing broken services, the QT wallet, and blockchain issues. We will also seek to expand upon the coin when there are no issues. Moopay LTD will also always make a developer available for urgent issues, regardless of contributor state, for a minimum of 18 months from the time this agreement is made formal.

Our (now expanded) development team has experiencing in working for Microsoft, Citigroup, Telefonica and more - and each and every member has substantial experience in crypto development (including daemon and reference client work).

tl;dr?
sr. member
Activity: 784
Merit: 250
Sounds like the devs almost have everything fixed.

Get ready to start shouting moon and how great things are going to be. Last chance to get cheap coins.
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 500
No oficcial wallet. Proyect with a lot of bugs and price 40% down the ipo price...
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000

Please check md5sum and do not talk bullshits. It is exactly same wallet, i made mirror. Windows one is available also on IRC on official SYS chanell and it is just working out of the box. But you know better and prefer to stay without wallet and flud here than check it out.
I am not blaming you, I asked dev about your link and they said it is not. I just report back. I know you support the coin by providing additional link, so Thank you.
So sorry, why devs did not make mirror faster if mega is shitty, why they did not release Windows wallet officialy? Strange.

Take it easy, most coins are using mega to upload wallets, I guess once that wallet is stable, it would be officialy uploaded.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
We have now reached the deadline for the ultimatum we previously issued to the Syscoin team, and while we are entering in to a review period; we have made the following preliminary decision (that is subject to change).

Our preliminary decision is that we will not be refunding the coin, but with the agreement of the Syscoin development team, will be changing release and development schedules moving forward. This decision will either be confirmed (or rejected and modified) publicly at 6PM GMT on Tuesday 26th August, 2014. While we could make the decision in full now (which would be to not refund), this review period will also include us engaging with various members of the community, over the best course of action to take. Please do not scream FUD at us, engage with us constructively.

While the launch of the coin was fraught with issues, the coin still launched. It worked at first, albeit erratically - and before the blockchain and daemon encountered severe issues, was in a usable state. This was not the case for everybody, but it was the case for many. At this stage, because initial obligations were met, we moved in to the inspection period (originally intended to last 72 hours). During this period, the coin encountered a number of major issues and became non-usable very rapidly.

As a result of this, and general public opinion, we issued a deadline-based ultimatum to the Syscoin team in regards to steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that funds would be released. If they took no action or made no progress, then they wouldn't be seeing a single satoshi. If they made good progress, we would re-review. We are now at the end of the ultimatum window, and we have made an initial judgement based on what the developers of the coin have done, and what they are continuing to do.

However, we are not comfortable to release the funds in full to the developers at this stage, and have put the following agreement to the Syscoin team. We are putting, and will be putting our own resources on the line in order to help protect the supporters of the coin, and encourage general adoption of this. I personally have faith in this coin, despite the abysmal launch - though this did not play a part in my decision.

Clause 1
Staggered release of funds.

The escrowed funds will not be released in full. They will be released in 6 monthly payments. The first payment will be for 250 BTC once this agreement is made formal, and then there will be an additional 200 BTC released each month for the next five months. At the end of this period, the Syscoin accrued during the early buy walls, will also be released. Release each month will be subject to the developers actively working on the coin, and making good progress in any necessary areas (to be determined on a monthly basis).

Clause 2
Moolah to support developers.

Moopay LTD will provide the Syscoin development team with access to our team of developers, for assistance with development issues, for a period of 6 months. Help will be given on a best-effort basis, with priority help granted for urgent issues.

Clause 3
Moolah to guarantee continued development.

If the developers decide to bail in full, and abandon development of the coin before this agreement is up; then Moopay LTD will supply a minimum of 3 developers to continue work on the coin - until the end of the agreement window. Moopay LTD will then continue to supply developers until adequate external contributors can be found. Moopay LTD will guarantee priority 24/7 response to urgent issues, and best-effort response to all other cases. This includes fixing broken services, the QT wallet, and blockchain issues. We will also seek to expand upon the coin when there are no issues. Moopay LTD will also always make a developer available for urgent issues, regardless of contributor state, for a minimum of 18 months from the time this agreement is made formal.

Our (now expanded) development team has experiencing in working for Microsoft, Citigroup, Telefonica and more - and each and every member has substantial experience in crypto development (including daemon and reference client work).
hero member
Activity: 957
Merit: 766
Don't download the wallet from somebody else's except devs!

kro55, don't take it personally, but today in the another thread some member (or full member - I don't remember) share the wallet with trojan.
sr. member
Activity: 267
Merit: 250

Please check md5sum and do not talk bullshits. It is exactly same wallet, i made mirror. Windows one is available also on IRC on official SYS chanell and it is just working out of the box. But you know better and prefer to stay without wallet and flud here than check it out.
I am not blaming you, I asked dev about your link and they said it is not. I just report back. I know you support the coin by providing additional link, so Thank you.
So sorry, why devs did not make mirror faster if mega is shitty, why they did not release Windows wallet officialy? Strange.

Is okay.. as a community we can help. Like you just did! They are busy and they should be. Just give them time.
sr. member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 301
*STOP NOWHERE*

Please check md5sum and do not talk bullshits. It is exactly same wallet, i made mirror. Windows one is available also on IRC on official SYS chanell and it is just working out of the box. But you know better and prefer to stay without wallet and flud here than check it out.
I am not blaming you, I asked dev about your link and they said it is not. I just report back. I know you support the coin by providing additional link, so Thank you.
So sorry, why devs did not make mirror faster if mega is shitty, why they did not release Windows wallet officialy? Strange.
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 15
damn, what's the situation now?
if go head like this from now, the Moolah will refund or not?
who can give an answer?
 
I guess the result will be, dev meet their requirements and the get the fund, continue their development.
And syscoin will survive, but from a much lower price.



I have experienced many similar situations. I bet my girlfriend, syscoin will not only survive, it is going into stratosphere. BUT: weak hands must leave the building first.
Obviously you are just passing by - because slex (owner of Moolah) said there will be gradual release of funds to devs for 6 months. So continued development is guaranteed. Where else is it GUARANTEED? Not even in top stable coins like Darkcoin or XCurrency.
sr. member
Activity: 267
Merit: 250

Please check md5sum and do not talk bullshits. It is exactly same wallet, i made mirror. Windows one is available also on IRC on official SYS chanell and it is just working out of the box. But you know better and prefer to stay without wallet and flud here than check it out.

I am not blaming you, I asked dev about your link and they said it is not. I just report back. I know you support the coin by providing additional link, so Thank you.

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1003
Well, That's Crypto :-\
Wow, I have avoided this thread until now because I thought there might be a bit of FUD....understatement.

Here's what I see:
  • a lot of people who most likely have no interest in SYS here making it the punching bag of the week because "we are here to destroy..." We get it, high school is tough, you have a lot of pent up anger about life in general
  • a dev who is not countering the FUD - Time to step up son, investors see their money vaporizing.
  • the CEO of moolah, (slex is it?) acting like an immature bitch - clean your act up too big man and start acting like a CEO and not one of the FUD kiddies. You need to maintain at all times, be clear and concise, and work to calm the situation not inflame it.

Bottom line is investors deserve a professional statement from SYS devs as well as moolah regarding the current situation.
  • provide answers - what happened here, here & here and whats has been done about it
  • What is the status on a refund? How about a concrete decision and provide a detailed explanation of how and why the decision was made
  • If refund is a no go then a detailed report on ico funds disbursement - when & how much ect
  • When will OP stated price support begin?

Devs & Moolah: You do understand dont you? Time to treat your ico investors like customers and not some suckers that were taken. Oh, and don't feed the trolls

hero member
Activity: 957
Merit: 766
But i dont think i'm gonna sell 
Why not? Do you like the wallet? I like it colors.
sr. member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 301
*STOP NOWHERE*

Please check md5sum and do not talk bullshits. It is exactly same wallet, i made mirror. Windows one is available also on IRC on official SYS chanell and it is just working out of the box. But you know better and prefer to stay without wallet and flud here than check it out.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
MEGA FILE HOSTING OF OUR MAC WALLET WENT DOWN OR IS BEING VERY SLOW.

MIRROR/NEW LINK (same wallet): http://syscoin.org/WALLETS/Syscoin-Qt-0.1.2.dmg


Thank you

Hope this one works for you!

Working   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


But i dont think i'm gonna sell 
sr. member
Activity: 368
Merit: 250
MEGA FILE HOSTING OF OUR MAC WALLET WENT DOWN OR IS BEING VERY SLOW.

MIRROR/NEW LINK (same wallet): http://syscoin.org/WALLETS/Syscoin-Qt-0.1.2.dmg


Thank you

Hope this one works for you!
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
MEGA FILE HOSTING OF OUR MAC WALLET WENT DOWN OR IS BEING VERY SLOW.

MIRROR/NEW LINK (same wallet): http://syscoin.org/WALLETS/Syscoin-Qt-0.1.2.dmg


Thank you
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