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Topic: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! - page 58. (Read 490229 times)

hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
OK, guys,
why not the dev members show up now ?
just still to fix the problem ,or just worry about their IPO btc from mooh?

we need your voice ,dev, how is going about the FK coin?

There will be no Dev team after they get the 1500 Bitcoin.

Then why did you invest in a coin that had this laid out how it was going to happen?
sr. member
Activity: 267
Merit: 250

@devs & Moolah

ENOUGH...  you need to make arrangements so that presale investors can be able to formally request their funds to be released from escrow...  I AM NOT INTERESTED IN A REFUND...  I WANT MOOLAH TO RELEASE MY FUNDS TO THE DEVS.

DITTO!
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
there wont be a refund anymore. because right now. most of the problems are fixed. and they have already used 250btc buy wall. so that is out of the question. ill stick around and buy some again if prices goes below 300.

I believe so too. I hope all the whining kids and fake accounts sell their coins and go away.
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
OK, guys,
why not the dev members show up now ?
just still to fix the problem ,or just worry about their IPO btc from mooh?

we need your voice ,dev, how is going about the FK coin?

There will be no Dev team after they get the 1500 Bitcoin.
member
Activity: 72
Merit: 10
Digital Currency fanatic
MAC WALLET--okay, for those having issues with the Mac wallet, you have to download with Firefox!  Not Chrome.  Not Safari.  


For Mac users you have to go to ~/Library/Application Support/Syscoin and remove all the files and directories and the hidden .lock file.  All except syscoin.conf and wallet.dat.  Then the new 0.1.2 wallet works like a champion. Opening, exiting, reopening;  the whole bit.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
OK, guys,
why not the dev members show up now ?
just still to fix the problem ,or just worry about their IPO btc from mooh?

we need your voice ,dev, how is going about the FK coin?
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
MAC WALLET--okay, for those having issues with the Mac wallet, you have to download with Firefox!  Not Chrome.  Not Safari.  

Does not download with Firfox either!!!

You want a screen shot?
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
there wont be a refund anymore. because right now. most of the problems are fixed. and they have already used 250btc buy wall. so that is out of the question. ill stick around and buy some again if prices goes below 300.
sr. member
Activity: 784
Merit: 250
Nice to see all the professional trollers showed up. Must be a sad day job for you people going from thread to thread and spewing shit from your keyboard nonstop all day everyday.

Enjoy your stay.
sr. member
Activity: 368
Merit: 250
MAC WALLET--okay, for those having issues with the Mac wallet, you have to download with Firefox!  Not Chrome.  Not Safari.  
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10
ok, finally managed to run and sync the wallet on win 8 x64  Huh. complete reinstall of syscoin and taking this for the syscoin.conf was the key for my case:

rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=19667
port=19666
server=1
gen=0
daemon=1
listen=1
rpcserver=1
addnode=faucet.no-ip.biz
addnode=sys.bemining.net
addnode=node.syscoin.me
addnode=212.17.40.234
addnode=66.248.204.251
addnode=54.198.232.29
addnode=71.85.227.255
addnode=178.62.10.46
addnode=31.220.4.41
addnode=54.186.125.97
addnode=54.186.248.126
addnode=95.211.57.109
addnode=192.99.10.27
addnode=37.187.71.108
newbie
Activity: 21
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back

You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.


Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise.
Ok another of moronic posts on this thread. 1. show me an ICO of these KNOWN SCAMS which reached 1500 BTC? Answer is none. So the amount at stake is huge.
2. Trust in the ICO was based on moolah' rep and devs promise of a refund if working product is not delivered. That's is why it sold 1500 BTC. Go check another ICOs running right now. Some barely make past 10-20 BTC. Ones hosted on C-CEX/BITTREX etc are touching 100 BTC with effort.

Now there are bound to be comparison with CRYPTI which raised 750 BTC too. But, the price of IPO was super cheap and ICO investors could dump their coins without loss if they were not agreeable to the term of delay.
SYSCOIN had a pricey IPO and then delayed their launch. People buying are stuck and saying shit like NO REFUND or THERE ARE OTHER KNOWN SCAMS is not going to help anyone. Just refund or put a buy wall and let people exit.

I'll address your points.
1. I'm talking about crypto in general. Refunds are just not part of the landscape. You buy, you take the risk. I know of no other ICO close to as large as SYS.
2. Again, the trust in Moolah should be taken as is. He promised to buy back if nothing was delivered to his terms. Read the fineprint HIS terms. Not yours, not mine, HIS. He set the deadline and what counted as an acceptable level of wallet status. It will reach that and the ICO will be released. People may have mis-interpreted Moolah to mean, if you're not 100% happy with your purchase at any time in the future irregardless of what happens, he will buyback your portion of the ICO. He never claimed such a thing. B uy walls, refunds, they all mean that people can exit without being responsible FOR THEIR OWN RISK.
Moolah and Sys devs are not beholden to anyone who makes a claim after they signed the agreement of the ICO.

The price WILL go down. People are angry. Devs made a fumble. But again, the risk was the shareholder's to bear. I for one am holding my coins as I believe this coin will last.
I think you are not getting it through your head:
1. It was because refunds were promised that this coin achieved this size. If not, it would have finished trying to cross 100 BTC. So it was promised, need not be part of this space.

2. You are mistaken, here's another thread which can be quoted - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-regarding-moolahio-escrow-745005 . Read it twice and over again. There were no TERMS AT ALL. Moolah might be arbitrating this deal but as you put it those are HIS terms not something which came out of public disclosure.

And while my post will be termed as FUD, its funny that there are people who want to support the coin say stupid things without reading the terms themselves. Read the reward schedule in the OP. There was a promise of a buy support. If not, forget 1500 BTC, these guys wouldn't see past 100 BTC. Now I have to wonder who is more moronic - guys like you or the devs who are fooling the public.
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
Thing is, it's going down to 1 sat. I'm going to establish a bail out wall where everyone can dump so they don't have to go broke. I can help you guys, me and other accounts like "truth123123", "asdasdasdasd..... real talk. You should always listen to those prophets. Coin is broken and it will be broken forever. This is no FUD. I demand refund, rollback and shit like that. I need to get rich now. If something goes wrong it's the end of the world. I'm serious. I'm important.

Needs more red.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 501
slex, devs
What do you think about buy wall at price lower first stage, maybe 420 or 400?
If someone wants to go - welcome, but others will be more confident and in the thread will be less noise.

The only reason the price haven't gone downwards any further is ppl believe there is possiblity of such an arrangement.
How pathetic.
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 250
Looks like Moolah has already made its decision, and so has the market.

These so-called "devs" will abandon the coin soon after the escrow is released to them.
And, even if they don't, they're incompetent and they're not professional C++ developers or effective project managers, for that matter.

The only hope for SYS as far as market confidence  is new management with hard-core development expertise and street cred.

I disagree with the Moolah CEO - I think the opportunity cost and reputational damage will be more severe than you expect. You think you would've learned from Mintpal.

If we decide not to refund, the escrow will be released in a series of staggered phases to ensure continued development. We are also considering contributing an experienced developer to the team temporarily to help them with minor issues.

While I am sure there will be some damage, we cannot breach our contract and the terms stipulated.

Was this series of staggered phases specified in the initial terms?  Where?

After all, you can't violate your initial terms.



We can by mutual agreement, this is true of any contract.




It's pretty clear you don't have the "mutual agreement" of the parties that gave you the funds to hold in escrow.

Or are they just irrelevant in your mind?

+1

Also if you don't want to provide exit at 518 provide buy wall at 100 satoshi. Wink Losing 80% is still better than Losing it all.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100

At 6PM GMT, we will be moving in to a review period. Others have said that, true; but others have also said they have no problems. It is a clusterfuck of a situation.


Clusterf*ck? But hasn't everything been going swimmingly?
Release the escrow to the well-deserving SYS dev team!
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
Looks like Moolah has already made its decision, and so has the market.

These so-called "devs" will abandon the coin soon after the escrow is released to them.
And, even if they don't, they're incompetent and they're not professional C++ developers or effective project managers, for that matter.

The only hope for SYS as far as market confidence  is new management with hard-core development expertise and street cred.

I disagree with the Moolah CEO - I think the opportunity cost and reputational damage will be more severe than you expect. You think you would've learned from Mintpal.

If we decide not to refund, the escrow will be released in a series of staggered phases to ensure continued development. We are also considering contributing an experienced developer to the team temporarily to help them with minor issues.

While I am sure there will be some damage, we cannot breach our contract and the terms stipulated.

Was this series of staggered phases specified in the initial terms?  Where?

After all, you can't violate your initial terms.



We can by mutual agreement, this is true of any contract.




It's pretty clear you don't have the "mutual agreement" of the parties that gave you the funds to hold in escrow.

Or are they just irrelevant in your mind?

Changes to reasons to withhold funds, would require public involvement.

Changes to how those funds are released (to be more restrictive), if approved, only requires the approval of ourselves and the Syscoin team.
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
Anybody having issues with their wallets not working and unable to import their coins, and thinks their computers are working perfectly fine, you can send your private keys to me and I'll test it out for you and even send it to an exchange..  Grin  I mean that's totally legit right, nothing to worry about if there is no working wallets and SYS does not work...  Cheesy

Oh and I'll even do it with my 64bit system...

sr. member
Activity: 478
Merit: 250
Looks like Moolah has already made its decision, and so has the market.

These so-called "devs" will abandon the coin soon after the escrow is released to them.
And, even if they don't, they're incompetent and they're not professional C++ developers or effective project managers, for that matter.

The only hope for SYS as far as market confidence  is new management with hard-core development expertise and street cred.

I disagree with the Moolah CEO - I think the opportunity cost and reputational damage will be more severe than you expect. You think you would've learned from Mintpal.

If we decide not to refund, the escrow will be released in a series of staggered phases to ensure continued development. We are also considering contributing an experienced developer to the team temporarily to help them with minor issues.

While I am sure there will be some damage, we cannot breach our contract and the terms stipulated.

Was this series of staggered phases specified in the initial terms?  Where?

After all, you can't violate your initial terms.



We can by mutual agreement, this is true of any contract.
Looks like Moolah has already made its decision, and so has the market.

These so-called "devs" will abandon the coin soon after the escrow is released to them.
And, even if they don't, they're incompetent and they're not professional C++ developers or effective project managers, for that matter.

The only hope for SYS as far as market confidence  is new management with hard-core development expertise and street cred.

I disagree with the Moolah CEO - I think the opportunity cost and reputational damage will be more severe than you expect. You think you would've learned from Mintpal.

If we decide not to refund, the escrow will be released in a series of staggered phases to ensure continued development. We are also considering contributing an experienced developer to the team temporarily to help them with minor issues.

While I am sure there will be some damage, we cannot breach our contract and the terms stipulated.


How will you judge if the terms have been met? My wallet won't open. That is a fact. Others have said the same.

At 6PM GMT, we will be moving in to a review period. Others have said that, true; but others have also said they have no problems. It is a clusterfuck of a situation.


I had no problems with the latest update until about an hour ago. Just so you know.
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