[ANN] Technobit HEX16B(Bitfury based) 16 chip board design - page 36.

darkfriend77

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Quote from: marto74 on November 23, 2013, 01:36:20 PM

Quote from: darkfriend77 on November 23, 2013, 06:56:26 AM

Quote from: marto74 on November 07, 2013, 07:34:27 PM

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1. Refund of the fees for the users that asked this when John refunded them the initial cost of the chips for the participants that confirmed refund with
signed mesages in time. I did promised to make it in 25 days and I missed this . I'll make may best to fix it in the next 5-10 days. Please excuse my delay and have some patience.

...

Best Regards: Martin

Why aren't you holding up your promises ... I'm waiting now ... more then 40 days ... still waiting that you keep your word ...

I've some patience ... but you just fool about doing anything ...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon-chips-escrow-john-k-please-check-refund-list-until-sunday-217316

Please , stop this
I told you I'll hold my word, just be patient.
This tax refund is on good will from me. I'm not obligated to do it by the rules of the GB.
@ the moment I have production issues to work on .

It was a decision made in the group buy that we could choose to get our fee's back or not for the not successful group buy. Instead of just paying it in one simple transaction back you told fee returning will be 25 days later ... know body knows why ... then after 25 days ... nothing..... then you say we should take patience for an other 5-10 days .... nothing happens .... and now what its good will? It isn't ... pay your debts from previous deals before starting new ones ...

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Quote from: darkfriend77 on November 23, 2013, 06:56:26 AM

Quote from: marto74 on November 07, 2013, 07:34:27 PM

...

1. Refund of the fees for the users that asked this when John refunded them the initial cost of the chips for the participants that confirmed refund with
signed mesages in time. I did promised to make it in 25 days and I missed this . I'll make may best to fix it in the next 5-10 days. Please excuse my delay and have some patience.

...

Best Regards: Martin

Why aren't you holding up your promises ... I'm waiting now ... more then 40 days ... still waiting that you keep your word ...

I've some patience ... but you just fool about doing anything ...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon-chips-escrow-john-k-please-check-refund-list-until-sunday-217316

Please , stop this
I told you I'll hold my word, just be patient.
This tax refund is on good will from me. I'm not obligated to do it by the rules of the GB.
@ the moment I have production issues to work on .

loshia

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Quote from: forum2005 on November 23, 2013, 08:48:44 AM

An error to apply patch... any idea ?

I get code from ckolivas repository:
git clone https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer

Anybody can help me ?
Thanks.

Try patch -p1

forum2005

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An error to apply patch... any idea ?

I get code from ckolivas repository:
git clone https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer

Anybody can help me ?
Thanks.

darkfriend77

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Quote from: marto74 on November 07, 2013, 07:34:27 PM

...

1. Refund of the fees for the users that asked this when John refunded them the initial cost of the chips for the participants that confirmed refund with
signed mesages in time. I did promised to make it in 25 days and I missed this . I'll make may best to fix it in the next 5-10 days. Please excuse my delay and have some patience.

...

Best Regards: Martin

Why aren't you holding up your promises ... I'm waiting now ... more then 40 days ... still waiting that you keep your word ...

I've some patience ... but you just fool about doing anything ...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon-chips-escrow-john-k-please-check-refund-list-until-sunday-217316

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Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:41:56 AM

Quote from: Gator-hex on November 22, 2013, 07:15:27 AM

Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:05:13 AM

Quote from: Digi128pci on November 21, 2013, 02:59:31 PM

I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

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I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

Yeah, the price would have been good 2-3mths ago when the diff was much lower, but it's out of touch now. New stuff is below $10US per GH/s. Bitmine, Cointerra, and Black Arrow are all below $5 per GH/s.

I would only compare to another manufacturer that is producing like KnCminer..

A bulk purchaser would be able to afford the KnC units (currently taking expressions of interest again)...

275Gh/s KnC Jupiter $2995 = 6 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $3732 (extra +24.6% $/GH)

550Gh/s KnC Saturn $4995 = 12 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $7464 (extra +49.4% $/GH)

Maybe you could look at a better offer on your bulk purchase discount?

2% off for 5x units would not be enough to make me bite on a big order.

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra
PS: Do you really think that 8-16 boards is a volume order anyway?

What about a real or two of chips that is a volume

Just pointing out why he only gets small quantity orders, anyone who can afford more units can get a better deal, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I refer newbies to Martos web page all the time when they ask how they can mine Bitcoin. It's a good deal for someone who wants to start out with a few units.

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Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:51:17 AM

Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:49:03 AM

Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:45:18 AM

Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:41:56 AM

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra

The real world knows that ASICs are a ripoff compared to the amount of electronics that actually in them. They only reason people put up with the prices are that the expect ROI. Add 20% and you blow that.

True but remeber this things are expensive manly because ASIC chips price. And below all inexpensive components inside - PCB there is a lot of manpower to make things work and know how also. And as we all know it is not free. i am sure that you can have this product at much lower price BUT WITHOUT software PIC and Mining what about that? You do not need it of course but it is cheap. We are here for the ROI including me. What i have stated always that there should be compromise between our profit and Vendor profit. i think that marto is doing just fine. I do not care about his math as long as my math sais OK go and by it that is all.

The margin on the ASIC chip is massive. Only the first batch has the one time R&D costs. ASICs have less complicated circuitry than most dirt cheap consumer electronics chips.

And that is not a producer fault. he is paying that price upfront in cash with own money taking all the risks alone

erk

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Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:49:03 AM

Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:45:18 AM

Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:41:56 AM

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra

The real world knows that ASICs are a ripoff compared to the amount of electronics that actually in them. They only reason people put up with the prices are that the expect ROI. Add 20% and you blow that.

True but remeber this things are expensive manly because ASIC chips price. And below all inexpensive components inside - PCB there is a lot of manpower to make things work and know how also. And as we all know it is not free. i am sure that you can have this product at much lower price BUT WITHOUT software PIC and Mining what about that? You do not need it of course but it is cheap. We are here for the ROI including me. What i have stated always that there should be compromise between our profit and Vendor profit. i think that marto is doing just fine. I do not care about his math as long as my math sais OK go and by it that is all.

The margin on the ASIC chip is massive. Only the first batch has the one time R&D costs. ASICs have less complicated circuitry than most dirt cheap consumer electronics chips.

loshia

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Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:45:18 AM

Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:41:56 AM

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra

The real world knows that ASICs are a ripoff compared to the amount of electronics that actually in them. They only reason people put up with the prices are that the expect ROI. Add 20% and you blow that.

True but remeber this things are expensive manly because ASIC chips price. And below all inexpensive components inside - PCB there is a lot of manpower to make things work and know how also. And as we all know it is not free. i am sure that you can have this product at much lower price BUT WITHOUT software PIC and Mining what about that? You do not need it of course but it is cheap. We are here for the ROI including me. What i have stated always that there should be compromise between our profit and Vendor profit. i think that marto is doing just fine. I do not care about his math as long as my math says OK go and and get it that is all.

For all of you who seek for beeter price i may suggest the following
1. Get your chips group buy or whatever at least 1 real With your money paid upfront BTC Cash or whatever
2. Negotiate the price with your money invested and chips in hand
3. Send them to marto
4. Get cheap product delivered at once only one place one shipment
5. Split it between all the people involved

erk

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Quote from: loshia on November 22, 2013, 07:41:56 AM

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra

The real world knows that ASICs are a ripoff compared to the amount of electronics that actually in them. The main reason people put up with the prices are that they expect a positive ROI to cover the price. Add 20% and you blow that.

loshia

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Quote from: Gator-hex on November 22, 2013, 07:15:27 AM

Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:05:13 AM

Quote from: Digi128pci on November 21, 2013, 02:59:31 PM

I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

.

I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

Yeah, the price would have been good 2-3mths ago when the diff was much lower, but it's out of touch now. New stuff is below $10US per GH/s. Bitmine, Cointerra, and Black Arrow are all below $5 per GH/s.

I would only compare to another manufacturer that is producing like KnCminer..

A bulk purchaser would be able to afford the KnC units (currently taking expressions of interest again)...

275Gh/s KnC Jupiter $2995 = 6 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $3732 (extra +24.6% $/GH)

550Gh/s KnC Saturn $4995 = 12 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $7464 (extra +49.4% $/GH)

Maybe you could look at a better offer on your bulk purchase discount?

2% off for 5x units would not be enough to make me bite on a big order.

The only thing that matters for me to make me bite is delivery time. Price always matters of course but imagine that your KNC order got delayed for week or two. It may turn out that something delivered on time will be cheaper even if paid with 20% extra
PS: Do you really think that 8-16 boards is a volume order anyway?

What about a real or two of chips that is a volume

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Quote from: erk on November 22, 2013, 07:05:13 AM

Quote from: Digi128pci on November 21, 2013, 02:59:31 PM

I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

.

I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

Yeah, the price would have been good 2-3mths ago when the diff was much lower, but it's out of touch now. New stuff is below $10US per GH/s. Bitmine, Cointerra, and Black Arrow are all below $5 per GH/s.

I would only compare to another manufacturer that is producing like KnCminer..

A bulk purchaser would be able to afford the KnC units (currently taking expressions of interest again)...

275Gh/s KnC Jupiter $2995 = 6 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $3732 (extra +24.6% $/GH)

550Gh/s KnC Saturn $4995 = 12 x 45Gh/s Hex16B = $7464 (extra +49.4% $/GH)

Maybe you could look at a better offer on your bulk purchase discount?

2% off for 5x units would not be enough to make me bite on a big order.

erk

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Quote from: Digi128pci on November 21, 2013, 02:59:31 PM

I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

.

I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

Yeah, the price would have been good 2-3mths ago when the diff was much lower, but it's out of touch now. New stuff is below $10US per GH/s. Bitmine, Cointerra, and Black Arrow are all below $5 per GH/s.

loshia

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Quote from: Digi128pci on November 21, 2013, 02:59:31 PM

I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

.

I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

I do not have the guts to try it, but if you feel ok with it i am wandering what will happen at 960 mV. burnin broads got 50 Gh (--bitburner-fury-voltage 960). And what will be the power consumption Huh

What i know that HEX16B power is enough but what bothers me if Fury chips can take it

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I also got mine Grin

!

They hashing together with my HEX16A @920 mV ... about 46GHs each.

They are very well build and came very well packed.

Very good product if you ask me Wink

.

I only the price could be a 'bit' lower Lips sealed

loshia

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Quote from: spegelius on November 21, 2013, 12:24:34 PM

Quote from: loshia on November 20, 2013, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: spegelius on November 20, 2013, 03:49:24 PM

With 880mV i get a little over 42GH/s. Doesn't seem to get too hot on any part, which is nice. I suppose the --hexminer-option is like 16:540? I'll tune it more tomorrow, for now i'l just let it mine.

Yes that is correct. Try it with 900 mV if you want of course for 45 gh

900mV and freq 540 got me nearly 47GH/s

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I wish my original Bitfury H-boards would go this far, but the regulator is not up to the task. One does over 40G with 0.84V but speed tanks soon when regulator overloads...

Nice

You can observe spikes above 50 Gh but It will level to 45-46 avarage after a day or two Cry

HEX 16B uses same power as hex16A as far as i know. Having that in mind we have enough for spare at least 50% of what HEX16A uses clocked
The only question left is how much fury chips can take Huh

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I wish my original Bitfury H-boards would go this far.....
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But at same price .....Wishes

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Quote from: loshia on November 20, 2013, 03:58:59 PM

Quote from: spegelius on November 20, 2013, 03:49:24 PM

With 880mV i get a little over 42GH/s. Doesn't seem to get too hot on any part, which is nice. I suppose the --hexminer-option is like 16:540? I'll tune it more tomorrow, for now i'l just let it mine.

Yes that is correct. Try it with 900 mV if you want of course for 45 gh

900mV and freq 540 got me nearly 47GH/s

.

I wish my original Bitfury H-boards would go this far, but the regulator is not up to the task. One does over 40G with 0.84V but speed tanks soon when regulator overloads...

loshia

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Quote from: spegelius on November 20, 2013, 03:49:24 PM

With 880mV i get a little over 42GH/s. Doesn't seem to get too hot on any part, which is nice. I suppose the --hexminer-option is like 16:540? I'll tune it more tomorrow, for now i'l just let it mine.

Yes that is correct. Try it with 900 mV if you want of course for 45 gh

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With 880mV i get a little over 42GH/s. Doesn't seem to get too hot on any part, which is nice. I suppose the --hexminer-option is like 16:540? I'll tune it more tomorrow, for now i'l just let it mine.

loshia

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Quote from: spegelius on November 20, 2013, 03:06:08 PM

Quote from: loshia on November 20, 2013, 02:56:26 PM

Quote from: spegelius on November 20, 2013, 01:46:11 PM

Yeah, i downloaded the latest patch from that url for cgminer 3.8.1 source. The patch seems to go through without skipping any chunks, but configure doesn't seems to recognize --enable-hexminerb. I modified config.h and added #define USE_HEXMINERB 1 manually, now he build seems to compile more stuff.

I downloaded the windows sw, but i would need to reboot with driver signature check off to install the hex16 driver. Also i would very much like to use rpi to control the miner.

You are doing OK but start with ./autogen.sh --enable- whatever you want

Yes that was it, got it running

. Now it's mining a tad below 40GH/s on average, the 5s average goes up and down a bit. I think i'll let it run for a while and see how it work. Maybe some voltage tuning later on...

Super best results clock 540 voltage 903 and you will have 45 gh
Wait a bit it will level

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