Topic: ⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡ - page 3. (Read 60341 times)

jamal is obviously a scammer. that post he made that he need $3m? you realy think he is going for a lawyer? purely obviously scam

Yes, there is a spreadsheet, but somebody has checked whether there are many separate players. In any spreadsheet, any company can have this. But, in my opinion, this does not at all justify the attitude of the team to the legitimate participants of this Bounty company.

that doesn't proof that those are my accounts. there could be many reasons. most probably that is the picture of unfinished spreadsheet. I don't speak indonasian. and btw. I can't cliek those links. to me it's pdf file but it have only images. not actualy spreadsheet.
instead of capturing the spreadsheet and creating a pdf you should've simply made a copy of spreadsheet and made a spreadsheet itself.. or just Archive that using archive.is

Provided it's true but is it right not to pay the entire campaign participants, seems like they don't give proper justice to their judgement.
Only the manager is at fault here and I still believe that majority of the participants are doing their job honestly.

I believe since this is the start of the year, they should change their view on this matter and sort things out or this will live forever.

Think the user "Gusfall" is operated by somebody else. jamalaezaz is from a different country and speaking a different language to the original posts made by Gusfall who seems to be Malaysian or Indonesian.

Having said that I do believe the accusation made by Tokenpay and its CEO Derek Capo regarding multiple accounts by jamalaezaz have some truth in them and also the problems jamalaezaz had with Fruitsbasket does not help either.

it's not a screenshot, it's a pdf of your original spreadsheet
a pdf is like a picture but with links

for example when guys joined in week 3 or 4, but have week 1-2 also validated, it looks suspicious

my favorite is Gusfall https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gusfall-1106017
he joined the dec 16th (week 5) but have all weeks validated at max of share without made any report
and the better, this twiter doesnt even exist https://mobile.twitter.com/Gusfall077

there are a lot like him, its obviously your accounts, no legit bounty manager would do this

i don't care of my bounty, i just want prevent you make again money by scamming peoples anymore

dude. this is just a screenshot of the spreadsheed.. where is  your evidence that I used fake accounts in this bounty?

The thread is full of posts anout Tokenpay and its CEO Derek Capo being scamming thieves yet you post alleged good news about the scammers here in a thread titled: Re: ⚡[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡

Now, I will know how to make this project more popular.
Thank you very much for your concern, dude. It is so nice of you.

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@ ju34400

You have very strong views on this subject and you have not held back in your views or your words. I understand your frustrations at bounty manager jamalaezaz.

The behaviour of bounty manager jamalaezaz (since Tokenpay CEO Derek Capo refused to pay the bounty) has been nothing short of shocking.

Sure Tokenpay and its CEO Derek Capo are to blame because they refused to pay the bounty BUT bounty manager jamalaezaz created an environment which allowed Tokenpay CEO Derek Capo the opportunity to refuse paying out. The skype chat log in the OP which was posted to shore up support for those that got scammed, instead shows utter incompetence on part of bounty manager jamalaezaz.

jamal, a good scammer need good memory, you dont have it
i already told you i saved the spreadsheet before you close it and already posted at least 2 times here and/or previous bounty thread

i post again http://myreader.toile-libre.org/tokenpaysheet1234567.pdf

you are a just a thief who gave a (fake) reason to others thief to scam honnest peoples

I am not happy and not content with the fact that I was not paid for my time. I just doubt that it will change anything here.
Yes jamalaezaz made mistakes. But did you see what the team of the TOKENPAY SCAM said? They charged the manager in using multi-accounts. This is the only reason why the hunters were left with nothing, and the SCAMERS team decided that this was enough. Moreover, without presenting a single proof! Just words.   
Is it possible, after this, to expect from these people something adequate?

prove those fake accounts man.. do you have evidence?
this is just their excuse to look innocent and put all blame on me of their scam.

guys, move on it's over, we will never receive our bounty
jamal scammed them by cheating with fake accounts and they used it for refuse to pay everybody

its just a scammer who tried to scam others scammers

@Vaculin

Thank you for the post

Very well said. If people have moved on and are happy or content for them to be scammed of their tokens then that is for them.

As for those that wish to pursue any avenue of that might lead to any chance of getting any of their due back, then that is some thing for them. I still put the most of the blame for this debacle directly at the bounty manager jamalaezaz because he has not been competent when dealing with TokenPay or when trying to find a legal solution to this matter.

Good for you that you have move on already, but some of us are still not moving on because we want our effort to be paid.
I don't know if the manager of the bounty are still active in finding ways to pay their participants, but I hope the team one day will change their mind.

This topic was stretched to 80 pages, but did not bring anything to the participants of this company bounty. During this time, I have already calmed down and accepted this sad reality.
In my opinion, unfortunately, there is no longer any sense to continue this discussion.
All we could do here is just to create a vibration in the air with our words.

You are right in pointing out and asking about which bounty manager is worse. In the case of this bounty manager jamalaezaz he does not seem to interested anymore. He hides behind the shield of saying that he needs 3 BTC to pay a US based lawyer to start legal action. He did not take the well thought out advice that he was given by myself and others regarding finding a lawyer on a no-win-no-fee basis.

Clearly Tokenpay scammed the bounty participants and very cleverly blamed jamalaezaz but jamalaezaz was the one that could have helped protect the interests of bounty participants before his own ego.

When jamalaezaz posted that he was no longer the going to be involved in Monaco bounty he immediately removed his post and sent a PM asking me to remove my post which I refused to do and still can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20130228

It shows jamalaezaz actively went out to post against Monaco and they came to a fast arrangement to avoid negative publicity during the ICO and the key thing is Monaco paid jamalaezaz as there was no complaints later but in the case of Tokenpay they never backed down and instead switched tables and change their stance from partially blaming jamalaezaz to fully blaming hima nd accusing him of fraud..

I saw the skype screenshots and looked at the situation as best as I could with all information available and can conclude jamalaezaz is highly culpable in this debacle. Simply saying "Tokenpay scammed the bounty participants" is an oversimplification.

If a bounty manager cannot articulate himself in all manner and all times including when being accused of fraud then they should stop and return back to their real-world job because they are making a mockery of people participating in the bounties.

Don't know which is worst: Doesn't care, Doesn't listen, or Doesn't have the time to.
One thing is for sure though, picking bounty managers that do know how to "communicate" - doesn't matter what you native language is or if you can't learn Chinese, Russian, Italy, English, and French in order to satisfy the global client base. However, any BM worth their salt should not only be able to understand the nature of feedback and response, but also ensure that their reputation is never put through the wringer by having a signed contract to go with every deal.
And oh, reading the contract's expectations and requirements THOROUGHLY