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Quote from: xstr8guy on November 11, 2013, 09:59:33 PM

Ah ha! Now I know why random cards have dropped out. It's always happened when I've moved a fan or slightly adjusted the position of the M board, etc.

Yeah. I couldn't figure out why my rig did worse in the garage with a loud box fan blasting on it with near-freezing air temperatures (as opposed to inside the house with a less obnoxious fan setting). I finally narrowed it down to the boards wiggling around slightly. Sometimes I could get them in the right position and they'd run for hours and then randomly crap out. Here was my fix (just cut slits with a miter saw):

Look ma, no heatsinks:

speed:13670 noncerate[GH/s]:620.895 (2.425/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:629.412 good:43369 errors:455 spi-err:10 miso-err:0 duplicates:0 jobs:291 cores:78% good:254 bad:0 off:2 (best[GH/s]:626.034) Sun Nov 10 08:36:21 2013

Code:

board-2 speed   nrate   hrate   good    errors  spi-err miso-er duplic  good    bad     off     per chip        good cores
0:      863     38.426  39.309  2684    88      2       0       0       16      0       0       (2.402/chip)    77%
1:      862     39.399  39.456  2752    9       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.462/chip)    80%
2:      809     34.388  36.444  2402    67      0       0       0       15      0       1       (2.149/chip)    71%
3:      863     38.898  39.752  2717    12      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.431/chip)    80%
4:      859     39.313  39.900  2746    14      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.457/chip)    79%
5:      863     41.905  40.482  2927    22      2       0       0       16      0       0       (2.619/chip)    81%
6:      861     38.640  40.831  2699    15      0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.415/chip)    80%
7:      862     40.487  39.932  2828    5       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.530/chip)    80%
8:      863     39.786  39.425  2779    19      0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.487/chip)    79%
9:      859     40.659  39.805  2840    9       1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.541/chip)    80%
A:      863     40.630  40.101  2838    8       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.539/chip)    80%
B:      861     39.256  39.594  2742    7       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.454/chip)    80%
C:      855     38.469  39.161  2687    22      1       0       0       16      0       0       (2.404/chip)    79%
D:      809     34.775  37.438  2429    132     0       0       0       15      0       1       (2.173/chip)    69%
E:      858     37.209  38.717  2599    9       0       0       0       16      0       0       (2.326/chip)    79%
F:      860     38.655  39.065  2700    17      2       0       0       16      0       0       (2.416/chip)    78%

Keep in mind that this was manually tuned and I have access to unlimited amounts of very cold air.

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Quote from: sveetsnelda on November 11, 2013, 09:55:29 PM

Xian, it's very possible that your cards aren't overheating but are actually shaking side to side and losing connectivity. That's what happened to me, anyways. These new 1x PCI-E edge connectors are horrible. I'll post a picture of what I ended up doing to fix it.

Ah ha! Now I know why random cards have dropped out. It's always happened when I've moved a fan or slightly adjusted the position of the M board, etc.

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Quote from: goxed on November 11, 2013, 09:47:42 PM

Quote from: xstr8guy on November 11, 2013, 08:11:00 PM

Quote from: goxed on November 11, 2013, 07:34:26 PM

Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html

a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink

You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea. That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

BTW can I use this to hand solder the ASICs without much problems? http://www.cmlsupply.com/model-850-esd-safe-hot-air-rework-station.html?gclid=COTelKSe3roCFa1AMgod8VMAaw

Looks pretty similar to the one I have, I use it regularly to solder 0402s

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Xian, it's very possible that your cards aren't overheating but are actually shaking side to side and losing connectivity. That's what happened to me, anyways. These new 1x PCI-E edge connectors are horrible. I'll post a picture of what I ended up doing to fix it.

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Something definitely seems amiss with these kits.

I received 32 H-Cards, and 2 M-Boards. 1 M-Board is DOA and have filled an RMA request with MBP.

I've swapped out several H-Cards in slots that had their hash-rate go from full to zero, and even new sealed H-Cards start slowing down and approach 0 GHs in the same slots.

Best I can tell, at least 2 H-Cards are completely DOA, and having sad-times getting a full M-Board hashing steady above 500.

Fuck Sad

Will let it run for a few hours and see how things look a bit later...

EDIT: Well, that went to zero quickly... Fuck. Eg: Swapped slot 1 and 2 for new H-Cards...

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:351.042 (1.371/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:367.538 good:24520 errors:8994 spi-err:60 miso-err:125 duplicates:111 jobs:262 cores:24% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 02:52:05 2013 board-2 speed nrate hrate good errors spi-err miso-er duplic good bad off per chip good cores 0: 848 34.245 35.863 2392 120 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.140/chip) 31% 1: 848 0.000 0.000 0 0 0 0 0 16 0 0 (0.000/chip) 8% speed down 2: 848 0.000 0.000 0 0 0 0 0 16 0 0 (0.000/chip) 8% 3: 848 35.391 36.687 2472 3 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.212/chip) 33% 4: 848 0.000 0.000 0 0 0 0 0 16 0 0 (0.000/chip) 13% 5: 848 32.556 34.499 2274 124 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.035/chip) 31% 6: 848 34.961 37.417 2442 138 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.185/chip) 32% 7: 848 0.000 0.000 0 0 0 0 0 16 0 0 (0.000/chip) 10% 8: 848 34.145 36.846 2385 124 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.134/chip) 31% 9: 848 34.474 35.937 2408 67 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.155/chip) 32% A: 848 35.290 36.613 2465 47 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.206/chip) 33% B: 848 37.767 36.656 2638 9 2 0 0 16 0 0 (2.360/chip) 34% C: 848 34.832 35.683 2433 14 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.177/chip) 33% D: 848 35.691 36.201 2493 3 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.231/chip) 33% E: 848 0.000 0.803 0 7788 0 0 6 16 0 0 (0.000/chip) 11% F: 848 1.689 4.334 118 557 54 125 105 16 0 0 (0.106/chip) 7%

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Quote from: goxed on November 11, 2013, 09:47:42 PM

Quote from: xstr8guy on November 11, 2013, 08:11:00 PM

Quote from: goxed on November 11, 2013, 07:34:26 PM

Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html

a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink

You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea. That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

by time you got pcb and chip price for Jan. 2014 like 5.00 per chip.

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Quote from: xstr8guy on November 11, 2013, 08:11:00 PM

Quote from: goxed on November 11, 2013, 07:34:26 PM

Okay I want to brainstorm my ideas a little bit.
Here's what I am going to do. I am thinking of decoupling the voltage regulator from the PCB since it causes so much overheating issues. It will reduce board BOM and hopefully faster turnaround by PCB manufacturer.

I am planning to use multiples of this regulator since the output can be paralleled (~$55 e.a.)

http://www.intersil.com/en/tools/reference-designs/isl8225meval3z.html

a) Order chips ($25 ea on megabigpower.com)
b) Order decoupling capacitors for ASICs
c) Get PCB made and assembled by the PCB company (only solder ASIC + decoupling caps. No need to solder voltage regulator section)
d) Order Voltage regulators
e) Test assembled cards
f) Mine
g) If successful, sell to interested parties Wink

You'll have no margins for profit if chips are $25 ea. That's $400 for the ASICs alone.

And I think it's generally expected when MGP and BFSB started selling H boards again they're going to have to price them at less than $300 per board or they'll generate very little interest.

Lets say I do it without any profit margins, just for the community at first.

BTW can I use this to hand solder the ASICs without much problems? http://www.cmlsupply.com/model-850-esd-safe-hot-air-rework-station.html?gclid=COTelKSe3roCFa1AMgod8VMAaw

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Quote from: mb300sd on November 11, 2013, 09:31:49 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on November 11, 2013, 09:23:57 PM

Quote from: frankenmint on November 11, 2013, 09:19:37 PM

Good job to the ~~dumbass~~ misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything. Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time. Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.

No kidding Sad

Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.

Get yourself a phone repair kit, the ones that came with my replacement screen fit perfectly.

Or an eyeglass repair kit.

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Quote from: Xian01 on November 11, 2013, 09:23:57 PM

Quote from: frankenmint on November 11, 2013, 09:19:37 PM

Good job to the ~~dumbass~~ misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything. Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time. Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.

No kidding Sad

Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.

Get yourself a phone repair kit, the ones that came with my replacement screen fit perfectly.

Xian01

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Quote from: frankenmint on November 11, 2013, 09:19:37 PM

Good job to the ~~dumbass~~ misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything. Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time. Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.

No kidding Sad

Having a helluva time with the smallest screwdriver I could find from Fry's...

Not even sure if I'm getting any movement.

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I was seeming to get good hashrates relatively (like ~520 - 550 GH/s) Just got home see that my rate was around 385 with two dead cards (currently I have my miner restarting once an hour in case that happens...look like it didnt seem to help this last go round Embarrassed

)

to restart my miner, in ssh type

Code:

 crontab -e
*/60 * * * * sudo /opt/bitfury/start-miner.sh

No offense, but this kit is wierd, awkward, lacking, whatever you want to call it. So far I've spent a lot of time:

Taking all cards out and slowly adding them and running it for 30 minutes to see how high they go and to attempt to set them to around 30 GH. I tuned the majority of them to stay on, here is my up to the minutes stats from CAT:

Code:

speed:13312 noncerate[GH/s]:473.076 (1.848/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:486.648 good:330
    44 errors:595 spi-err:9 miso-err:6 jobs:369 cores:29% 
    good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best [GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 02:10:12 2013
0:      832     31.267  32.005  2184    24      1       2       16      0      0          (1.954/chip)    30%
1:      832     19.843  22.460  1386    140     0       4       16      0      0         (1.240/chip)    20%
2:      832     26.700  28.158  1865    86      0       0       16      0      0          (1.669/chip)    26%
3:      832     32.098  33.178  2242    19      1       0       16      0      0          (2.006/chip)    30%
4:      832     34.789  34.816  2430    21      2       0       16      0      0          (2.174/chip)    33%
5:      832     34.231  34.394  2391    26      1       0       16      0      0          (2.139/chip)    32%
6:      832     29.735  30.229  2077    13      0       0       16      0      0          (1.858/chip)    29%
7:      832     28.461  29.384  1988    27      0       0       16      0      0          (1.779/chip)    28%
8:      832     33.028  33.104  2307    21      0       0       16      0      0          (2.064/chip)    32%
9:      832     24.653  25.927  1722    56      1       0       16      0      0          (1.541/chip)    25%
A:      832     34.417  34.520  2404    23      0       0       16      0      0          (2.151/chip)    32%
B:      832     32.298  32.755  2256    13      0       0       16      0      0          (2.019/chip)    31%
C:      832     31.783  32.576  2220    27      0       0       16      0      0          (1.986/chip)    31%
D:      832     26.156  27.301  1827    21      0       0       16      0      0          (1.635/chip)    26%
E:      832     23.093  24.300  1613    66      1       0       16      0      0          (1.443/chip)    23%
F:      832     30.523  31.540  2132    12      2       0       16      0      0          (1.908/chip)    31%

Not terrible but by no means any good by what Dave quoted earlier. (might have increased slightly because my main window shows 475 GH/s)

Good job to the ~~dumbass~~ misguided helper who chose the smaller than atomic particle Potentiometers (something just a little bit bigger that wouldve been easier to catch with a screwdriver would have made all the difference to me) that are too small for anything. Smallest screwdriver I could find in frys barely seems to catch them most of the time. Extremely frustrating when trying to undervolt the cards for the sake of keeping them on.

I have a SHIT-TON of heat sinks - The only thing I could think to do more now is to buy up another 32 tiny heat sinks to put onto the top and the back of the voltage regulator.

Xian01

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Quote from: AMD FTW on November 11, 2013, 09:01:14 PM

What's the login and the password?

user: pi
pass: raspberry

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Quote from: tacotime on November 11, 2013, 08:49:54 PM

Xian, turn down the voltage by turning the trimpots to the left on those cards

I'll try that. Thanks !

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BFGMiner has been running for 35 minutes now, might have been a heat issue. Its cold outside now and I leave the window in the server room open.

The 1 dead H-board is still dead tho. I might try immersion cooling after it gets RMA'd

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Xian, turn down the voltage by turning the trimpots to the left on those cards

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Quote from: tom99 on November 11, 2013, 07:22:48 PM

Your errors overkill more than 50% and if you are not going to run 850W with 2 full kits.

Swapped out the PSU for a Corsair AX1200.

Chainminer runs fine for a little bit, then a few boards start dropping down to 0GH/s.

BFGMiner is a fail spamming all sorts of nastiness.

*sigh* Very frustrating Sad

These guys are finicky Sad

Have some big-ass fans keeping them cool, so I can't imagine they are overheating Sad

Room is 76C.

Below you can see the few boards that are starting to reach 0GH after starting strong.

speed:13568 noncerate[GH/s]:452.817 (1.769/chip) hashrate[GH/s]:478.766 good:25514 errors:3816 spi-err:8 miso-err:10 duplicates:505 jobs:230 cores:12% good:256 bad:0 off:0 (best[GH/s]:0.000) Tue Nov 12 01:47:09 2013 board-2 speed nrate hrate good errors spi-err miso-er duplic good bad off per chip good cores 0: 848 33.987 35.587 1915 35 0 1 0 16 0 0 (2.124/chip) 15% 1: 848 10.737 10.941 605 352 0 2 25 16 0 0 (0.671/chip) 5% 2: 848 12.051 14.112 679 139 0 1 16 16 0 0 (0.753/chip) 5% 3: 848 35.212 36.216 1984 220 2 0 39 16 0 0 (2.201/chip) 15% 4: 848 19.398 19.969 1093 255 0 2 77 16 0 0 (1.212/chip) 9% 5: 848 31.343 33.884 1766 100 0 0 2 16 0 0 (1.959/chip) 13% 6: 848 32.745 36.754 1845 128 0 0 1 16 0 0 (2.047/chip) 14% 7: 848 19.540 19.864 1101 327 0 1 55 16 0 0 (1.221/chip) 9% 8: 848 34.395 36.531 1938 119 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.150/chip) 15% 9: 848 33.827 35.627 1906 43 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.114/chip) 15% A: 848 34.697 36.334 1955 50 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.169/chip) 15% B: 848 35.229 36.334 1985 4 0 0 0 16 0 0 (2.202/chip) 15% C: 848 34.910 35.456 1967 13 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.182/chip) 15% D: 848 31.343 33.674 1766 905 1 1 177 16 0 0 (1.959/chip) 14% E: 848 32.017 35.365 1804 148 1 0 0 16 0 0 (2.001/chip) 14% F: 848 21.386 22.118 1205 978 1 2 113 16 0 0 (1.337/chip) 10%

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Quote from: chamber32 on November 11, 2013, 08:42:26 PM

OK, I can manually run chainminer with this:

Code:

sudo killall -q miner ; cd /run/shm ; sudo /opt/bitfury/chainminer/miner

But all I get is "INIT: 64 chips detected" (after I compiled)

What's next?

chamber32

See above.

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OK, I can manually run chainminer with this:

Code:

sudo killall -q miner ; cd /run/shm ; sudo /opt/bitfury/chainminer/miner

But all I get is "INIT: 64 chips detected" (after I compiled)

What's next?

chamber32

EDIT: I got it to work by deleting existing chainminer & cloning & making a new copy

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Quote from: mb300sd on November 11, 2013, 08:30:04 PM

Quote from: tom99 on November 11, 2013, 08:27:50 PM

Quote from: mb300sd on November 11, 2013, 08:14:56 PM

Does anyone know what this means? I'm having to restart bfgminer around every 5-10 minutes.

[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cc: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cd: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ce: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cf: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cg: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ch: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ci: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cj: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3ck: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries
[2013-11-12 01:14:15] BSB 3cl: bitfury_init_oldbuf: Giving up after 4 tries

you sure not use BGFMINER and not working well with Hboards.

I couldn't get chainminer to work at all, all it does is freeze at

"M-Board version 2 detected
INIT: 256 chips detected"

At least bfgminer mines for a while.

That's happened to me with chainminer before. I just rebooted the rPi or restarted chainminer until it worked. Also, be patient, sometimes it takes a minute or two to get past that point.

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