And come to thnk of it... How naive are we? At Ripple they have a bunch of guys who are good in their respective fields in computer science, finance and government, and yet Ripple is still having difficulty in getting network adoption going. What more via?
Who are the people behind via besides Peter Todd and Drak? And what is Drak's real name?
Topic: [ANN] [VIA] ★ Viacoin ★ ~ the future of digital currency ~ ★ - page 78. (Read 825880 times)
5.- I anticipate, at the risk of not being right, that Drak will announce any time now that he has contracted the services of a PR firm. This will mean NOTHING at all, except the waste of a significant amount of money. Specifically, it will mean that such PR Firm will send a few press releases to publication in the PC industry and that some of them will actually publish/post those releases (that no one, no one whatsoever ever reads).
Lol. That's what they do in the penny stock game. These phony companies hire PR firms to hype their stock. Hopefully Drak won't use such practices to exploit the community.
When such an unsavoury character as Ashdrake posts in a thread, you can tell 2 things have happened:
1.- The crazies are running the asylum.
2.- The project has gone to shit.
There's no simplest, 100% indicator.
Now, for the truth:
1.- Drak has spent most of the 600 BTC he got in the ICO (peculiarly, no one has even mentioned the stack of VIA that he got for himself and, of that, the amount he is still holding, which is quite interesting in an of itself).
2.- Of whatever is left, I know for a fact -through his own words- he's willing to "invest it in exchange for corroborated results". Which is "interesting" since he wants assured results previous to investment, which is, in reality, a denial of the will to invest, since no one can offer corroborated results without actually investing prior.
3.- The only thing available for promotions, projects, whatever, are those 1 million VIA Drak is holding that he got from the sale of that other thing XCH or whatever.
4.- Nothing, technically or otherwise, will happen to VIA in the near future. This is it. Peter Todd will continue being paid $4,000 a month until Drak decides he doesn't want to pay him anymore. Either way, he will continue doing nothing for VIA, just like he has so far.
5.- I anticipate, at the risk of not being right, that Drak will announce any time now that he has contracted the services of a PR firm. This will mean NOTHING at all, except the waste of a significant amount of money. Specifically, it will mean that such PR Firm will send a few press releases to publication in the PC industry and that some of them will actually publish/post those releases (that no one, no one whatsoever ever reads).
6.- True to his trajectory, Drak has reached a point at which he will be first to admit he has no idea how to further this project in the only meaningful, measurable way there is: Valuation. He never had any idea about that. No projects, not even general ideas as to how to create either buzz or, more importantly, penetration/adoption. He remains clueless about all of it. So do all the people who, so far, have come with personal, separate projects for which they "need help/time".
Consequently, the project will continue languishing while the pretense of "sound tech" holds... which is rapidly dwindling.
But don't mind me, Drak think at this point I am simply "coughing and puffing"...
1.- The crazies are running the asylum.
2.- The project has gone to shit.
There's no simplest, 100% indicator.
Now, for the truth:
1.- Drak has spent most of the 600 BTC he got in the ICO (peculiarly, no one has even mentioned the stack of VIA that he got for himself and, of that, the amount he is still holding, which is quite interesting in an of itself).
2.- Of whatever is left, I know for a fact -through his own words- he's willing to "invest it in exchange for corroborated results". Which is "interesting" since he wants assured results previous to investment, which is, in reality, a denial of the will to invest, since no one can offer corroborated results without actually investing prior.
3.- The only thing available for promotions, projects, whatever, are those 1 million VIA Drak is holding that he got from the sale of that other thing XCH or whatever.
4.- Nothing, technically or otherwise, will happen to VIA in the near future. This is it. Peter Todd will continue being paid $4,000 a month until Drak decides he doesn't want to pay him anymore. Either way, he will continue doing nothing for VIA, just like he has so far.
5.- I anticipate, at the risk of not being right, that Drak will announce any time now that he has contracted the services of a PR firm. This will mean NOTHING at all, except the waste of a significant amount of money. Specifically, it will mean that such PR Firm will send a few press releases to publication in the PC industry and that some of them will actually publish/post those releases (that no one, no one whatsoever ever reads).
6.- True to his trajectory, Drak has reached a point at which he will be first to admit he has no idea how to further this project in the only meaningful, measurable way there is: Valuation. He never had any idea about that. No projects, not even general ideas as to how to create either buzz or, more importantly, penetration/adoption. He remains clueless about all of it. So do all the people who, so far, have come with personal, separate projects for which they "need help/time".
Consequently, the project will continue languishing while the pretense of "sound tech" holds... which is rapidly dwindling.
But don't mind me, Drak think at this point I am simply "coughing and puffing"...
still going on ?
Wonderful! Everybody is happy here. Whales pushing price to anger and despair stage so we can slowly start thinking when and how much to accumulate or when to leave, trolls having fun, some hangovers after parties, so everything is going well! Thank you for asking and enjoy the club.Thank you for the advice.
still going on ?
Wonderful! Everybody is happy here. Whales pushing price to anger and despair stage so we can slowly start thinking when and how much to accumulate or when to leave, trolls having fun, some hangovers after parties, so everything is going well! Thank you for asking and enjoy the club.After despair try some Digibyte and Guldencoin.
still going on ?
Wonderful! Everybody is happy here. Whales pushing price to anger and despair stage so we can slowly start thinking when and how much to accumulate or when to leave, trolls having fun, some hangovers after parties, so everything is going well! Thank you for asking and enjoy the club.Update: Okay if you remove this post Drak: it is about prices.
still going on ?
Felt no better buying opportunities.
Lol. It's honestly how I feel about myself sometimes... Especially after watching this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
When BTC succeed (maybe with the help of start-up companies like 21), then VIA has a serious chance to join the 2.0 blockchain revolution, since the aim of the VIA project is a position on the 2.0 market with robuste and possibly innovative blockchain technology.
Lol. I honestly cannot see that happening at this point, considering there are other arguably better projects fighting for market position. When I read statements like the one bolded above, I fear it could be this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
To annoy you. j/k
Yeah, I think I'll wait for some good news/development and wait for the price to bottom out. The sooner this issue is over and done with, the better for Drak and via. Drak is making a good move by not responding and just letting it die down. He doesn't really owe anyone anything.
The scene was different back then. Now there are a lot more altcoins fighting for relevancy today. So there's a big chance via will not become relevant. I mean Dogecoin, which is considered a 'joke' currency, is in a better position to become relevant than most altcoins due to its social following.
I can agree that it was different, but it has something in common. If you look closely, coins which are fighting for relevancy today are pretty much the same (as numbers). I'm not saying that VIA will be relevant.. I'm saying that people will eventually learn their lesson and that lesson is to stop giving value to s*itcoins. At the end... some of the coins which are fighting for relevancy will succeed, but in the mean time a lot more people will be distracted from cryptocurrencies.
EDIT: Doge is dying.. no question about it.
I won't disagree. But if Doge is dying, then what more via.
EDIT: And with talks going around that Drak pocketed the IPO all for himself is true, then some couldn't help but classify via as a scam s*itcoin. Something which I fear will fudded for months to come by the same people who invested in the project at the beginning.
I think Drak being quiet and just letting the issue die down is a good move in order to protect himself and this project.
bro it was a presale. you guys bought the coins he mined. If you dont understand it like that
It was a fucking 100% premined coin, and the dev sold you the coins at 0 risk to him. This would have been a scam if a) he bailed on the coin and b) he didnt develop the things he developed. So far its not a scam, but to be honest, he did got paid a fuckton of money upfront with only promises, but lets face it fuckers, real truth coming up
you guys didnt buy this coin for the tech, you could give 2 shits about the tech
you guys didnt buy this coin for the future, its a fucking alt, adn except DRK which seems to be pumping miracously everyhting went to the shitter
you guys didnt buy this coin because it was BTCdrak or whoever else
the only reasons you bought this coin and the presale in the beginning were
1) it was the first major IPO done by a respected forum account (hero member, not day 1 coinDev name)
2) It was fucking hyped to shit by every last single fucking breathing organism on twitter (and some robots as well)
3) It was done properly, released properly, no release fuckups, no fuckups with mining, no fucking random shits happening and random fud
4) The developer was NOT part at that time of any pump and dump groups, at launched this looked like the most legit shit that came out of the altcoin cesspool since fucking Dogecoin
5) The developer had concrete plans and a roadmap for delivery, roadmap for delivery is a roadmap to each individual pumps
but the most important reasons why 99% of you bought this coin when it launched was
BECAUSE YOU COULD FUCKING GET RICH QUICKLY IN A FUCKING PONZI SCHEME SITUATION
Now the reasons for buying this coin after it had the 2 pumps are multiple
a) you have this crowd of "this is only a retrace/shakedown/exitbyawhale/etc" it will go back up - here are your bagholders galore, hoping they will manage to sell for breakeven, but as soon as they get to breakeven, they go like, FUCK THIS IS GOING UP EVEN MORE, and buy more and become even higher averaged bagholders
b) you have this crowd of "this is the fucking bottom, my fucking fibbonaci/trendlines/rsi/macd/voodoomagicindicator says so" when in an alt with no volume, all those indicators are fucking shit and worth even less than a dump
c) you have this crowd of "i dont care about the price, i only care about the tech" - this group is an even worse bagholder, since they never crack and never sell their shit
d) you have this crowd of "fuck i need to avg down my position, this will surely rebound and shit" when no fucking altcoin that had a strong PUMP came back (except DRK but those guys are actually doing anon shit and shit)
and then finally you have the guys that fuck it, its below IPO, whats my risk/reward ratio, if it looks good i'll buy, if it doesnt i wont
-------------------
now before you start go asking stupid and repetitive questions think hard about what type of trader you are and look if you didnt fuck up yourself rather than go and blame all your failures because "DRAK DIDNT PUMP THE COIN AN X TIME SO I COUDL EXIT AT PROFIT"
fucking idiots
dude...pretty sure 99% of us are buying to speculate...actually maybe 99.8% do you know anyone that actually uses any "tech" brought about by an alt coin? Besides for novelty of course
EDIT: Cannabiscoin ....there is one
EDIT EDIT: but thats not really a "tech" coin...
Lol. It's honestly how I feel about myself sometimes... Especially after watching this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
When BTC succeed (maybe with the help of start-up companies like 21), then VIA has a serious chance to join the 2.0 blockchain revolution, since the aim of the VIA project is a position on the 2.0 market with robuste and possibly innovative blockchain technology.
Lol. I honestly cannot see that happening at this point, considering there are other arguably better projects fighting for market position. When I read statements like the one bolded above, I fear it could be this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
Lol. I honestly cannot see that happening at this point, considering there are other arguably better projects fighting for market position. When I read statements like the one bolded above, I fear it could be this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
... or this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGwh9NUaNI
P.S. Can we move on now?
Lol. It's honestly how I feel about myself sometimes... Especially after watching this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
When BTC succeed (maybe with the help of start-up companies like 21), then VIA has a serious chance to join the 2.0 blockchain revolution, since the aim of the VIA project is a position on the 2.0 market with robuste and possibly innovative blockchain technology.
Lol. I honestly cannot see that happening at this point, considering there are other arguably better projects fighting for market position. When I read statements like the one bolded above, I fear it could be this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
Lol. It's honestly how I feel about myself sometimes... Especially after watching this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
The point indeed is, that VIA is embedded in an alt-circus of pump and dump. The only escape is when real world market and institutions are getting interested in blockchain technology. For the moment(?) BTC is also part of the pump and dump circus. BTC is making baby steps in the real economy. BTC, by the larger crowd, is only known as currency and NOT yet for the possibilities of 2.0 blockchain technology.
When BTC succeed (maybe with the help of start-up companies like 21), then VIA has a serious chance to join the 2.0 blockchain revolution, since the aim of the VIA project is a position on the 2.0 market with robuste and possibly innovative blockchain technology.
Nevertheless, compared to the 'flagship' Scrypt coin LTC, the current price of VIA, the best Scrypt coin, is a laugh. But I am glad, because I missed the VIA Ico.
Lol. It's honestly how I feel about myself sometimes... Especially after watching this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIasr2AiyZ0
The scene was different back then. Now there are a lot more altcoins fighting for relevancy today. So there's a big chance via will not become relevant. I mean Dogecoin, which is considered a 'joke' currency, is in a better position to become relevant than most altcoins due to its social following.
I can agree that it was different, but it has something in common. If you look closely, coins which are fighting for relevancy today are pretty much the same (as numbers). I'm not saying that VIA will be relevant.. I'm saying that people will eventually learn their lesson and that lesson is to stop giving value to s*itcoins. At the end... some of the coins which are fighting for relevancy will succeed, but in the mean time a lot more people will be distracted from cryptocurrencies.
EDIT: Doge is dying.. no question about it.
I won't disagree. But if Doge is dying, then what more via.
EDIT: And with talks going around that Drak pocketed the IPO all for himself is true, then some couldn't help but classify via as a scam s*itcoin. Something which I fear will fudded for months to come by the same people who invested in the project at the beginning.
I think Drak being quiet and just letting the issue die down is a good move in order to protect himself and this project.
bro it was a presale. you guys bought the coins he mined. If you dont understand it like that
It was a fucking 100% premined coin, and the dev sold you the coins at 0 risk to him. This would have been a scam if a) he bailed on the coin and b) he didnt develop the things he developed. So far its not a scam, but to be honest, he did got paid a fuckton of money upfront with only promises, but lets face it fuckers, real truth coming up
you guys didnt buy this coin for the tech, you could give 2 shits about the tech
you guys didnt buy this coin for the future, its a fucking alt, adn except DRK which seems to be pumping miracously everyhting went to the shitter
you guys didnt buy this coin because it was BTCdrak or whoever else
the only reasons you bought this coin and the presale in the beginning were
1) it was the first major IPO done by a respected forum account (hero member, not day 1 coinDev name)
2) It was fucking hyped to shit by every last single fucking breathing organism on twitter (and some robots as well)
3) It was done properly, released properly, no release fuckups, no fuckups with mining, no fucking random shits happening and random fud
4) The developer was NOT part at that time of any pump and dump groups, at launched this looked like the most legit shit that came out of the altcoin cesspool since fucking Dogecoin
5) The developer had concrete plans and a roadmap for delivery, roadmap for delivery is a roadmap to each individual pumps
but the most important reasons why 99% of you bought this coin when it launched was
BECAUSE YOU COULD FUCKING GET RICH QUICKLY IN A FUCKING PONZI SCHEME SITUATION
Now the reasons for buying this coin after it had the 2 pumps are multiple
a) you have this crowd of "this is only a retrace/shakedown/exitbyawhale/etc" it will go back up - here are your bagholders galore, hoping they will manage to sell for breakeven, but as soon as they get to breakeven, they go like, FUCK THIS IS GOING UP EVEN MORE, and buy more and become even higher averaged bagholders
b) you have this crowd of "this is the fucking bottom, my fucking fibbonaci/trendlines/rsi/macd/voodoomagicindicator says so" when in an alt with no volume, all those indicators are fucking shit and worth even less than a dump
c) you have this crowd of "i dont care about the price, i only care about the tech" - this group is an even worse bagholder, since they never crack and never sell their shit
d) you have this crowd of "fuck i need to avg down my position, this will surely rebound and shit" when no fucking altcoin that had a strong PUMP came back (except DRK but those guys are actually doing anon shit and shit)
and then finally you have the guys that fuck it, its below IPO, whats my risk/reward ratio, if it looks good i'll buy, if it doesnt i wont
-------------------
now before you start go asking stupid and repetitive questions think hard about what type of trader you are and look if you didnt fuck up yourself rather than go and blame all your failures because "DRAK DIDNT PUMP THE COIN AN X TIME SO I COUDL EXIT AT PROFIT"
fucking idiots
This. Sorry to say, but it's true.
The scene was different back then. Now there are a lot more altcoins fighting for relevancy today. So there's a big chance via will not become relevant. I mean Dogecoin, which is considered a 'joke' currency, is in a better position to become relevant than most altcoins due to its social following.
I can agree that it was different, but it has something in common. If you look closely, coins which are fighting for relevancy today are pretty much the same (as numbers). I'm not saying that VIA will be relevant.. I'm saying that people will eventually learn their lesson and that lesson is to stop giving value to s*itcoins. At the end... some of the coins which are fighting for relevancy will succeed, but in the mean time a lot more people will be distracted from cryptocurrencies.
EDIT: Doge is dying.. no question about it.
I won't disagree. But if Doge is dying, then what more via.
EDIT: And with talks going around that Drak pocketed the IPO all for himself is true, then some couldn't help but classify via as a scam s*itcoin. Something which I fear will fudded for months to come by the same people who invested in the project at the beginning.
I think Drak being quiet and just letting the issue die down is a good move in order to protect himself and this project.
bro it was a presale. you guys bought the coins he mined. If you dont understand it like that
It was a fucking 100% premined coin, and the dev sold you the coins at 0 risk to him. This would have been a scam if a) he bailed on the coin and b) he didnt develop the things he developed. So far its not a scam, but to be honest, he did got paid a fuckton of money upfront with only promises, but lets face it fuckers, real truth coming up
you guys didnt buy this coin for the tech, you could give 2 shits about the tech
you guys didnt buy this coin for the future, its a fucking alt, adn except DRK which seems to be pumping miracously everyhting went to the shitter
you guys didnt buy this coin because it was BTCdrak or whoever else
the only reasons you bought this coin and the presale in the beginning were
1) it was the first major IPO done by a respected forum account (hero member, not day 1 coinDev name)
2) It was fucking hyped to shit by every last single fucking breathing organism on twitter (and some robots as well)
3) It was done properly, released properly, no release fuckups, no fuckups with mining, no fucking random shits happening and random fud
4) The developer was NOT part at that time of any pump and dump groups, at launched this looked like the most legit shit that came out of the altcoin cesspool since fucking Dogecoin
5) The developer had concrete plans and a roadmap for delivery, roadmap for delivery is a roadmap to each individual pumps
but the most important reasons why 99% of you bought this coin when it launched was
BECAUSE YOU COULD FUCKING GET RICH QUICKLY IN A FUCKING PONZI SCHEME SITUATION
Now the reasons for buying this coin after it had the 2 pumps are multiple
a) you have this crowd of "this is only a retrace/shakedown/exitbyawhale/etc" it will go back up - here are your bagholders galore, hoping they will manage to sell for breakeven, but as soon as they get to breakeven, they go like, FUCK THIS IS GOING UP EVEN MORE, and buy more and become even higher averaged bagholders
b) you have this crowd of "this is the fucking bottom, my fucking fibbonaci/trendlines/rsi/macd/voodoomagicindicator says so" when in an alt with no volume, all those indicators are fucking shit and worth even less than a dump
c) you have this crowd of "i dont care about the price, i only care about the tech" - this group is an even worse bagholder, since they never crack and never sell their shit
d) you have this crowd of "fuck i need to avg down my position, this will surely rebound and shit" when no fucking altcoin that had a strong PUMP came back (except DRK but those guys are actually doing anon shit and shit)
and then finally you have the guys that fuck it, its below IPO, whats my risk/reward ratio, if it looks good i'll buy, if it doesnt i wont
-------------------
now before you start go asking stupid and repetitive questions think hard about what type of trader you are and look if you didnt fuck up yourself rather than go and blame all your failures because "DRAK DIDNT PUMP THE COIN AN X TIME SO I COUDL EXIT AT PROFIT"
fucking idiots
Sad but there will be no "things start looking good again"
VIA at 2k soon. Have a nice day VIA holders
VIA at 2k soon. Have a nice day VIA holders
People with opinions such as yours are buying pizza for 10,000 BTC (most of all probably know the story). Next time try to look on something closely. Some of us don't need to be taught and they can make the difference between coins for daytrading/fast profits and coins for long term (yes, that concept still exists). Cryptocurrencies such as DarkBlackAnonDogeCoin will always be valued more, until most of you learn their lessons.
Sure bro hold Your coins strong!!! You know beter than me
Besides Drak and Peter Todd, who else involved in via?
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