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Quote from: dma88 on October 08, 2017, 12:08:33 AM

Quote from: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 03:39:50 AM

Quote from: WORLDWIDEWES on October 07, 2017, 01:43:20 AM

Howmuch was this coin when it first started trading?

around $1 when it hit the exchanges / this forum.

according to the mods, a lot cheaper at ICO.

keep in mind this wasn't a typical ICO. from what I've read so far, it looks like they just started selling them on binance. WTC seems to have a deep relationship with binance, which means they would both have to be in on the scam...

but anyway maybe they didn't sell anywhere near all 100MIL tokens. they put the price at 60 cents, instead of 6 cents for a sell-it-all ICO. so they charge 10x and trickle the coins out as people buy them. so the WTC guys would still control the vast majority of the tokens. this would enable them to pump, dump, manipulate as they see fit, and binance could possibly help to hide it.

all speculation of course.

No no NO....smh...That's just flat out wrong. Binance didn't even exist when Walton did their ICO. All Binance did was a bounty program for Walton to get people to their platform (which is smart). Binance did a bounty for BQX too where they gave tens of thousands of BQX away (which is smart). Now they're doing an API BNB bounty (which is smart).

Walton's ICO wasn't a mystery, it just may seems like it to you because of the cultural barrier. It wasn't really marketed to western societies, but that doesn't mean they didn't have a transparent ICO.

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Quote from: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 03:39:50 AM

Quote from: WORLDWIDEWES on October 07, 2017, 01:43:20 AM

Howmuch was this coin when it first started trading?

around $1 when it hit the exchanges / this forum.

according to the mods, a lot cheaper at ICO.

keep in mind this wasn't a typical ICO. from what I've read so far, it looks like they just started selling them on binance. WTC seems to have a deep relationship with binance, which means they would both have to be in on the scam...

but anyway maybe they didn't sell anywhere near all 100MIL tokens. they put the price at 60 cents, instead of 6 cents for a sell-it-all ICO. so they charge 10x and trickle the coins out as people buy them. so the WTC guys would still control the vast majority of the tokens. this would enable them to pump, dump, manipulate as they see fit, and binance could possibly help to hide it.

all speculation of course.

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Okay, WTC is on the move again, saddle up. Shocked

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Quote from: Keihatsu on October 07, 2017, 03:45:13 AM

I just followed up on this.. the first set of terms doesn't have any search results in google. it thinks it should be "experian holdings" but that doesn't turn up anything interesting. so what's that all about?

and the bitcoin seoul guy is a scammer, you can see vids of some of his previous scams before crypto. and he hypes up WTC. but is he really "in" on it? is he a whale that caused the recent bubble? do you have evidence of something like that?
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definitely "nexperian holding"
https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1CAACAG_enGB590GB590&biw=1366&bih=630&q=World+Intellectual+Property+Organization+AND+nexperian+holdings&oq=World+Intellectual+Property+Organization+AND+nexperian+holdings&gs_l=psy-ab.3...21302.24330.0.24782.10.10.0.0.0.0.88.732.10.10.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.391...33i160k1j33i21k1.0.r1G8rHV6e8s

no evidence of Bitcoin Seoul involvement, just speculation.

he jokingly said "scandal" on his YouTube channel as he bought some more WTC. At least he has a sense of humour.

i'm not an expert in the manipulation of markets, but something doesn't seem right.
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so this link? http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/text/2017/d2017-0441.html

what does that have to do with wtc or binance?

and the bitcoin seoul guy.. he's a shit pumper in a world full of shitpumpers. is he manipulating the market behind the scenes? could be. but without proof it's an empty accusation.

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Quote from: Slemicek on October 07, 2017, 11:05:26 AM

Quote from: Bigbobbasher on October 07, 2017, 10:31:29 AM

Has anyone seen any of wtc's coding. Because their blockchain is just as important as their supply chain. Its not on github.

No.They don't have any code repository where the code can be viewed.

And ppl wonder why this called scam.

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Quote from: Bigbobbasher on October 07, 2017, 10:31:29 AM

Has anyone seen any of wtc's coding. Because their blockchain is just as important as their supply chain. Its not on github.

No.They don't have any code repository where the code can be viewed.

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is it a good project?p

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Has anyone seen any of wtc's coding. Because their blockchain is just as important as their supply chain. Its not on github.

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Quote from: revelacaogr on October 07, 2017, 06:34:41 AM

by treo123

WaltonChain signs a strategic cooperation agreement with Association of Taiwan Cloud [news from July]

https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74t8fv/waltonchain_signs_a_strategic_cooperation/

source:
http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

Well those things take a while to get to a point where both parties benefit from the collab. WTC is still in development, so once they're done we'll see some massive strives forward no doubt

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by treo123

WaltonChain signs a strategic cooperation agreement with Association of Taiwan Cloud [news from July]

https://www.reddit.com/r/waltonchain/comments/74t8fv/waltonchain_signs_a_strategic_cooperation/

source:
http://tech.china.com/article/20170703/2017070337823.html

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I just followed up on this.. the first set of terms doesn't have any search results in google. it thinks it should be "experian holdings" but that doesn't turn up anything interesting. so what's that all about?

and the bitcoin seoul guy is a scammer, you can see vids of some of his previous scams before crypto. and he hypes up WTC. but is he really "in" on it? is he a whale that caused the recent bubble? do you have evidence of something like that?
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definitely "nexperian holding"
https://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1CAACAG_enGB590GB590&biw=1366&bih=630&q=World+Intellectual+Property+Organization+AND+nexperian+holdings&oq=World+Intellectual+Property+Organization+AND+nexperian+holdings&gs_l=psy-ab.3...21302.24330.0.24782.10.10.0.0.0.0.88.732.10.10.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.391...33i160k1j33i21k1.0.r1G8rHV6e8s

no evidence of Bitcoin Seoul involvement, just speculation.

he jokingly said "scandal" on his YouTube channel as he bought some more WTC. At least he has a sense of humour.

i'm not an expert in the manipulation of markets, but something doesn't seem right.

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Quote from: WORLDWIDEWES on October 07, 2017, 01:43:20 AM

Howmuch was this coin when it first started trading?

around $1 when it hit the exchanges / this forum.

according to the mods, a lot cheaper at ICO.

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Howmuch was this coin when it first started trading?

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Quote from: Keihatsu on October 02, 2017, 12:34:11 AM

Quote from: Slemicek on October 01, 2017, 05:03:47 PM

Quote from: Keihatsu on October 01, 2017, 03:34:58 PM

I've gone into more detail in another post.

In summary: poorly designed website, copy and paste mistakes in the white paper, unable verify the team, cannot verify their claims about contracts and Chinese government support, no evidence of work/productivity (github), controlling too many coins, fake news stories, unconvincing "team" photos and videos (the CEO comes across as a budget actor struggling to read a cue card - you can see the shadow of the cue card), hired a privacy service (associated with numerous scams) to hide the domain registration details, aggressive shills that boot people from Slack & Reddit for asking reasonable questions, pressure tactics (buy more for a master node before it's too late [or we do a runner]), obviously paid shills on twitter and Reddit (hype comments with little substance) etc.

Nothing about it feels right.

I've probably spent far too much time talking about these things.

I strongly suspect that Walton Chain is a scam.

At best, as you say, a very amateurish team and, in my opinion, recklessly hyping and overpromising.

Would a team of experienced individuals, including a form VP of Samsung, be this amatuer?

Either way, I'd be very surprised if a product materialises.

$180,000,000 market cap with no product, no tangible evidence of work and many unsubstantiated claims.

The shills are hyping and talking about a market cap of $1billion this year.

I feel I have a duty to express my concern.

Can you please tell the name of privacy service they hired for hide domain info? Thank you.

Nexperian Holdings

It's worth googling "Nexperian Holdings" AND "WIPO"

Also "bitcoin seoul" AND "scam" < the man has a history.

I just followed up on this.. the first set of terms doesn't have any search results in google. it thinks it should be "experian holdings" but that doesn't turn up anything interesting. so what's that all about?

and the bitcoin seoul guy is a scammer, you can see vids of some of his previous scams before crypto. and he hypes up WTC. but is he really "in" on it? is he a whale that caused the recent bubble? do you have evidence of something like that?

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Has anyone noticed that all of their official statements on Twitter have the dates written in different formats? ... as if each statement was written by a different person, with various degrees of knowledge of the English language.

For instance:

September 4 , 2017
2017/9/29
Sep.28 2017
Oct. 7th 2017

I find this a bit weird, especially since there's been a lot of discussion around WTC being a scam coin.

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Quote from: Slemicek on October 06, 2017, 04:44:16 PM

Quote from: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 03:13:48 AM

who owns wallet 0x6c5ae8d4a3fb96cdae4dfe0a83c30e787b257474
?

There are some interesting transactions:

https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74?a=0x6c5ae8d4a3fb96cdae4dfe0a83c30e787b257474

One transaction of 5milions wtc from this wallet is transferred to that Wtc team wallet with 30milions of WTC (transaction https://etherscan.io/tx/0x64f018de9f53eb19e297dad5041a8f05b60b22837309a341f42709a36477cb24
So I guess it's another wtc team wallet. Hard to know how much wtc are realy in their position...

if you follow the transactions, the tokens split up into smaller & smaller amounts, til 10,000 WTC. then I clicked on one of those wallets, and it sent to the main binance wallet: https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74?a=0x3f5ce5fbfe3e9af3971dd833d26ba9b5c936f0be

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Quote from: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 03:13:48 AM

who owns wallet 0x6c5ae8d4a3fb96cdae4dfe0a83c30e787b257474
?

There are some interesting transactions:

https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74?a=0x6c5ae8d4a3fb96cdae4dfe0a83c30e787b257474

One transaction of 5milions wtc from this wallet is transferred to that Wtc team wallet with 30milions of WTC (transaction https://etherscan.io/tx/0x64f018de9f53eb19e297dad5041a8f05b60b22837309a341f42709a36477cb24
So I guess it's another wtc team wallet. Hard to know how much wtc are realy in their position...

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Quote from: JohnDoe3490 on October 05, 2017, 09:19:31 PM

Quote from: Bigbobbasher on October 05, 2017, 07:47:59 PM

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Quote from: MiBambino on October 03, 2017, 05:08:11 PM

A lot of bad news about WTC, eventhough most of the sources seem reliable. I'm happy I bought, but I must say I transfers some profits to Sonm

Same here! One thing to note, the contrast between the communication skills of the two teams.

I'm actually impressed with the level of professionalism from the SONM team. They're doing a great job communicating with the users. Hopefully their engineering skills are on par.

On the other hand, the team from Walton Chain seems like a joke.

Don't make the mistake of being hypocritical here, and don't be quick to judge. I've been a SONM bagholder since the ICO; you go through that SONM ANN and watch the progression of posts after the ICO, and their communication was LARGELY viewed as a joke at one point as well. They didn't even really have a good BCT presence at all, it was only because the community complained SO much that they hired an ADDITIONAL person specifically for that.

You look at the tune of the SONM thread now and its all roses, but you go back through that thread when it price hit all time lows (around 3 cents), and ~80%+ of the thread was FUD, complaints about lack of communication, and the credibility of the dev team. At the price of 3 CENTS people were acting as if SONM WAS POISON...if you think the FUD in here is alot, it's nothing compared to the MONTH(S) long FUD in the SONM thread.

Fudders spreading distrust when the China is on Golden Week. How interesting is that? Attacking them when they can't really respond.

Whys that china doesnt let em tweet and answer stuff? I mean even when they didnt hv a week off its not like they tweeted or answered stuff. Ill believe this project when reporting on it comes from actual mainstream news rather than "unofficial waltonchain news" reddit and slack mods.

Lmao. They are on VACATION. That is what Golden Week is. Let me know if you are answering work calls while on vacation.

I run a business under 100k, yeah i do. If im running a multimillion dollar business, i can guarantee you, someone is always answering calls if im not. You fucking wtc homers dont know shit about business

100k Business? Dude that's like garbage. 100k revenue is NOTHING. That's almost like you are a sole proprietor, no shit you have to answer calls. How about this, they are a tech startup that is pre-revenue you idiot. No one is calling unless it is an emergency. You WTC Fudders are laughable. Internet warriors who think 100k business is amazing.

Just wow. For example in my country 100k business made out from nothing, by yourself, is definitely not garbage. But whatever, you obviously don't have any idea about how hard can life be when you getting this offensive in normal discussion...

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Quote from: Bigbobbasher on October 06, 2017, 02:31:27 PM

Quote from: MiBambino on October 06, 2017, 02:24:45 PM

Quote from: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 01:42:15 PM

Quote from: MiBambino on October 06, 2017, 01:39:04 PM

Quote from: Keihatsu on October 06, 2017, 12:58:36 PM

Here's another interesting account, a mixer of some kind?

https://etherscan.io/token/0xb7cb1c96db6b22b0d3d9536e0108d062bd488f74?a=0x1be5e64f9d12be1319c841b946d59f444c61b9a5

Caution is advised, maybe the devs are gonna be dumping a little bit to fund their plans?

not my point. not about selling or necessarily the team.

just saying... why would someone set up an account to buy amounts from an exchange and then immediately move them on.

Could be moved to a desktop wallet or nano ledger? I have no idea why anyone would do what they did there honestly, all i can do is guess

Nano ledgers dont support wtc yet.

then I really have no idea what happened lol

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