Bitcointalk was good enough for them when they were asking for money.
They did not complain when the thread was full of hyping trolls.
Now the bitcointalk thread is below their dignity. Hyping is ok and fudding is wrong? They want all wave discussions to be fully controlled by them now. I don't agree that they miss communication skills. I think they have the skills but they have nothing to communicate. They are not interested to answer unpleasant questions.
They failed to deliver upon their promises. I remember what they promised should be accomplished by coin launch. This must be unpleasant for them. A good reason enough to avoid unmoderated discussions
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If someone contributed 100 btc it now offers him the same incentive as someone who only buys in and receives the same amount for almost half of that principal amount while at the same time this person reaps double the benefits while contributing nothing while the original contributor is rewarded by having his units cut through negative equity by the depreciation of market value.Is this fair.Is this project fair to those who contributed?Yes or no?
I think it is too much fair , however it was pretty easy to spot that at the beginning when the 2k+ btc came in loll...i think the ending 15k btc were 95% fake.I agree.
And that's what we called Robbing people.
This is basically what Sasha did to initial Investors.
Building up a fake ICO final amount to decrease the investors Quotes, giving them much less.. That means earning more and spending less.
2 ways bargain for them.
But unfortunately is illegal.
proof?
Price dips after ICO happen, this is normal, good chance to buy more. People should not complain about this
Go out, and buy a brain.. And maybe buy some morality as well, if you find a bargain.
Then come back to this thread and write.
No more posts before you did so.
If someone contributed 100 btc it now offers him the same incentive as someone who only buys in and receives the same amount for almost half of that principal amount while at the same time this person reaps double the benefits while contributing nothing while the original contributor is rewarded by having his units cut through negative equity by the depreciation of market value.Is this fair.Is this project fair to those who contributed?Yes or no?
I think it is too much fair , however it was pretty easy to spot that at the beginning when the 2k+ btc came in loll...i think the ending 15k btc were 95% fake.I agree.
And that's what we called Robbing people.
This is basically what Sasha did to initial Investors.
Building up a fake ICO final amount to decrease the investors Quotes, giving them much less.. That means earning more and spending less.
2 ways bargain for them.
But unfortunately is illegal.
But the level of incompetence shown by the developers is worrying here. And closing the thread shows the incompetence even more
Price dips after ICO happen, this is normal, good chance to buy more. People should not complain about this
and yeah, I invested in Waves. and my 2 btc are now 1. should I email sasha asking for my money back? can I split my waves tokens, maybe use a recursive call hack? -.- do you also blame satoshi when the btc price drops from 1000usd to 100?
good job creating the unofficial thread 
sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price...
sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price... Why shouldn't they be unhappy that they were screwed by sasha et al while those who did not contribute have the benefits?This is not "fud" only facts.The whole truth and not only selective truths to suit either narrative.If there was something positive to be said it would but it has not been earned to date.The aloof nature of the developer does not help the situation either but many are delusional and while others suffer helsinki syndrome.
So you're mad because you invested in something and didn't double your money? welcome to the real world. you think the devs can control the markets? you want them to spend all the funds on buy walls? they just need to develop their product and that's it. so far they haven't done anything wrong, imo. there may have been a few delays, but so did ethereum for example.
amazing butthurtness, blaming the devs for the price.
If someone contributed 100 btc it now offers him the same incentive as someone who only buys in and receives the same amount for almost half of that principal amount while at the same time this person reaps double the benefits while contributing nothing while the original contributor is rewarded by having his units cut through negative equity by the depreciation of market value.Is this fair.Is this project fair to those who contributed?Yes or no?
I think it is too much fair , however it was pretty easy to spot that at the beginning when the 2k+ btc came in loll...i think the ending 15k btc were 95% fake. 
I think is very hard to pump a coin with 100 millions coins with most of them controlled by others, you need to slowly get the share of weak hands and panic sellers, after that i think the road to 100 k will be quite fast, and dumpers will feel like shit, it is a long road project not a short range pumpa dumpa scheme ( i still believe it), let´s see what happen when full nodes source code be public.
it's quite obvious what they have been doing.
sounds like asking the investors to bend a little lower so they can stick it up a little bit further.
well played, waves team.
sounds like asking the investors to bend a little lower so they can stick it up a little bit further.
well played, waves team.
If someone contributed 100 btc it now offers him the same incentive as someone who only buys in and receives the same amount for almost half of that principal amount while at the same time this person reaps double the benefits while contributing nothing while the original contributor is rewarded by having his units cut through negative equity by the depreciation of market value.Is this fair.Is this project fair to those who contributed?Yes or no?
The real issue with people here is this. "Why did anyone even bother funding this project if you can now buy waves tokens for almost half of its ICO price?" There is NO logical reason for anyone to be content with what way the investors who funded this project and gave it its ability to develop have been treated.They have been shit on due to this very fact "Anyone who did not contribute is now rewarded while those who sacrificed their liquidity(mainly smaller investors who put their last cent in)have had their investment decimated"
These are the facts and this is the reality.
These are the facts and this is the reality.
I quote this.
And don't anyone of the crowd even try to categorise this as FUD. Because it is not.
This is nothing but a clear analysis of what's going on with Waves.
If you use the word 'Fud' regarding this post well, then you clearly have a mental disease.
Quoted so they dont forget the difference between fantasy and reality.We are trying to help the victims here.Maybe sasha should donate those 15 mill waves to ico investors who got done over by this.He has their 30k btc after all.
besides that if he would have simply pumped the coin the game would have been different today.But it looks like he is busy collecting the majority of the supply before pumping
The real issue with people here is this. "Why did anyone even bother funding this project if you can now buy waves tokens for almost half of its ICO price?" There is NO logical reason for anyone to be content with what way the investors who funded this project and gave it its ability to develop have been treated.They have been shit on due to this very fact "Anyone who did not contribute is now rewarded while those who sacrificed their liquidity(mainly smaller investors who put their last cent in)have had their investment decimated"
These are the facts and this is the reality.
These are the facts and this is the reality.
I quote this.
And don't anyone of the crowd even try to categorise this as FUD. Because it is not.
This is nothing but a clear analysis of what's going on with Waves.
If you use the word 'Fud' regarding this post well, then you clearly have a mental disease.
Quoted so they dont forget the difference between fantasy and reality.We are trying to help the victims here.Maybe sasha should donate those 15 mill waves to ico investors who got done over by this.He has their 30k btc after all.
This wouldnt be too bad an idea, Everyone could get donated enough to bring them up to at least ico price. the only problem with this plan though would be everyone would dump them straight away and price would be much lower than it currently is making it harder to make a recovery. Sasha wont care too much about everyone thats been burned tbh though, hes sitting with millions in the bank and laughing at everyone elses loss. The only thing he can do to reprieve himself is improve the coin more.
good job creating the unofficial thread sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price...
sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price... Why shouldn't they be unhappy that they were screwed by sasha et al while those who did not contribute have the benefits?This is not "fud" only facts.The whole truth and not only selective truths to suit either narrative.If there was something positive to be said it would but it has not been earned to date.The aloof nature of the developer does not help the situation either but many are delusional and while others suffer helsinki syndrome.
The real issue with people here is this. "Why did anyone even bother funding this project if you can now buy waves tokens for almost half of its ICO price?" There is NO logical reason for anyone to be content with what way the investors who funded this project and gave it its ability to develop have been treated.They have been shit on due to this very fact "Anyone who did not contribute is now rewarded while those who sacrificed their liquidity(mainly smaller investors who put their last cent in)have had their investment decimated"
These are the facts and this is the reality.
These are the facts and this is the reality.
I quote this.
And don't anyone of the crowd even try to categorise this as FUD. Because it is not.
This is nothing but a clear analysis of what's going on with Waves.
If you use the word 'Fud' regarding this post well, then you clearly have a mental disease.
Quoted so they dont forget the difference between fantasy and reality.We are trying to help the victims here.Maybe sasha should donate those 15 mill waves to ico investors who got done over by this.He has their 30k btc after all.
good job creating the unofficial thread sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price...
sucks that they closed the old one, but too much fud and dumb people crying over the price... FUD is boring crowdfunding and asset transaction isn't
I agree but there are few of the fudsters that need a good ass whoopin
Don't even pay attention, this is one of the most serious cryptos out there.
You SERIOUSLY do not have a clue as to what the fuck a SERIOUS crypto is do you? You mean one with a decent dev and awesome PR and updates and not taking out 11k Bitcoin of investors money without any communication, yes that is SERIOUS, SERIOUSLY fked up. You do know that the 11k bitcoin was returned to a few of the big players and that is them dumping this shit into oblivion because it cost them exactly 0. SERIOUSLY wake up.
Lol what?!
Escrow address - https://blockchain.info/address/3DWBSSAue32YS8PcW2gLs6m52BCCv3UgDA
Waves cold storage - https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD
According to escrow agreement the funds have to be transferred from the escrow address.
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD official Waves cold wallet
5 k is withdrawn for current and upcoming development and marketing costs, good moment to sell BTC. 1 k out of it is spent on WAVES buy-back.
https://blockchain.info/address/35fe2CM2zbMeSfhRjpjW8ikTJcZj8NooFD official Waves cold wallet
5 k is withdrawn for current and upcoming development and marketing costs, good moment to sell BTC. 1 k out of it is spent on WAVES buy-back.
where r the previously withdrew btc ? loll 'RollingSeriously' is right as hell at this point though.It will be different if the devs deliver the code.
FUD is still in the air 
just wait until source code release. Then polo might add waves and we will welcome tsunami.
just wait until source code release. Then polo might add waves and we will welcome tsunami. 
never heard of this exchange lol, interface looks very primitive.
The real issue with people here is this. "Why did anyone even bother funding this project if you can now buy waves tokens for almost half of its ICO price?" There is NO logical reason for anyone to be content with what way the investors who funded this project and gave it its ability to develop have been treated.They have been shit on due to this very fact "Anyone who did not contribute is now rewarded while those who sacrificed their liquidity(mainly smaller investors who put their last cent in)have had their investment decimated"
These are the facts and this is the reality.
These are the facts and this is the reality.
we've heard enough about it. its now becoming trite. you can already by cheaper waves. no need to fud now.
if you haven't done so go register to bittrex and buy some.
You can trust Litebit - i´m satisfied with the Service - i´m buying for almost 2 years from litebit
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