Topic: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | BIG NEWS: Foundation, investors & more ☯ whitecoin.info - page 64. (Read 759251 times)

Yeah that was the idea of the IPO, during IPO release the only way to buy WOC would be to use WC. This avoids the BTC buy and forces you to use WC to buy.

As for your second idea i just don't know if it's feasible or possible, but worth thinking about

I think the slight reducition in WC supply for the IPO of WOC is a the way to go.

Well the concept would be the WC would be the big coin, you could move your stake to WOC, I don't think it will be a 1:1 ratio coin but a smaller coin for the specific use of anon. Also as for getting it on exchanges the idea of it being a companion coin to WC means you're using brand association as opposed to creating some other coin with some other name.

Mogonzo did talk about how the number of devs in the crypto world is quite small and they move on to new coins when theres new ideas, innovations. By associating with WC new features could be added to WC or WOC if feasible and if not then have another companion currency. It will hopefully put us in a position of trust and worthiness within the new release spectrum where people will want the new WC because they know who's making it and where it's come from instead of a new coin just appearing from essentially nowhere and no real knowns

I can definitely understand why you conclude that making WOC is seeing WC as failing, but it can also be seen as supplying products and options that people want.

By maintaining the 'White' name hopefully we'd be creating a larger interest and greater exposure for both currencies.

I feel like you are putting words in my mouth...

"Especially when you are saying it would not be a one-to-one buy in."

I never said this.  I will also be clear that I'm not on the dev team...I've made a couple suggestions as to how I think it might make sense to move forward.  I am anxious to hear what the official proposal will be, and I'm hoping we hear that soon so that we can focus our discussions on what is actually possible.

I don't think adding a coin like WOC to the WCF that has additional features says anything about WC.  I am hoping that both can be managed with the same wallet.  Again my personal opinion is that we swap some of the WC for WOC...kind of like what Caishen did.  A few less WC (50 million or so) will make WC slightly more valuable, and allow for a solid kick off/IPO for WOC.  Again, bringing new attention and investment to the new Dev team through the WCF.   

I think this is where we really have a division of thought. Why would I stay with WC if you are proposing WOC as a new coin on the exchanges (granted you can get voted in). Would you not have to go through the entire cycle again just like any other coin and at that point, why would I stay with WOC? I am not trying to troll, but it is not making any sense to me. Especially when you are saying it would not be a one-to-one buy in. What you are in essence dong is admitting is that WC is a failed coin and I simply do not see it that way, is my contention.

They did say that building a privacy function into WC was not the optimal choice, something about the blockchain...  Not sure on the specifics, but they did address it.  I am pretty sold that a new coin is the way to go though for the reasons I mention above...but I'm in for the long haul either way.

Yes, distribution is solid. Premine is solid. PoW done with PoS. Other than building other features into this existing coin, not sure why a new coin is needed. Do the current DEV's have access to the code or is there anything wrong with the existing coin for which you could not enhance?

yes world just need one more coin  This coin is just fine..its just like every other altcoin on the earth used for pump and dump..after that they create new coin for pump and dump and so on..i thing this coin had best distribution so there is no whailes on WC..we dont need new coin..you just need WAYS TO USE IT and to buy something on the internet.

I'd like to see the WCF broaden it's offering with another coin for another simple reason...  I think WC is still saddled with the stigma of the failures of the original dev team.  A new coin, WhiteOut Coin, that adds a privacy function to the WCF will bring new interest and new investors back into what is happening here through the WCF.  They will see that WC is rock solid, even more solid than most other coins due to the broad range of investors, stake holders and community contributors.   I'm hoping that we will soon hear from the technical dev team members so that we can start to debate the technical specifics on how best to implement WhiteOut Coin. 

Guys ...

We need real market, real web where you can use WC only it can give us strong and it wouldn't be a litle pump. We must create a wallet / client for wordpress/jomla and find a shops etc witch want to use WC.

There is 2 many coins over 300M. And algo scrypt is dead. There are two mains problems. No anon...

Amen to that.

As you continue to stay to on the high ground, Mr. Salsman, the future of WC bodes well. We can only hope that WhitenotWright and Kestrel71, neither of them with anything yet constructive to add to the dialogue, will eventually either fade away into obscurity, or, better yet, choose to reach for that same higher ground and change their tone.

What are you doing in this area:

https://coinreport.net/embargoed-8am-july-1st-expresscoin-brings-easy-bitcoin-trading-canada/

How do you think you've helped this coin? I think you're defeating your own argument. I try to help keep the conversation positive, and I generally only come down on those who go too far off course from constructive feedback. You have specifically threatened to damage this coin on multiple occasions, and even inspired a sockpuppet brigade against you, along with multiple people coming to me expressing concerns about your and other accounts attempting to manipulate the price.

Physician, heal thyself.

You have some seriously flawed logic if you think our concern is hampering the growth of this coin. As I stated before, your issue centers around investor trust and value and your ignorance to why your coin is currently in the ditch. To date, you have illustrated your lack of comprehension in this area. Yet you consistently try and demonize those that are actually in support of this coin although we have differing opinions. Community is working together and helping each other. I think you just like to use that word without really knowing what its core meaning is really about.

Anyone can be a part of the Operations Team by singling themselves out as hard workers. We do need critical thinkers, but I think it's clear that his style is not the best one for helping the growth of this coin and that was my point. It remains one I make to you as well.

You sir are a refreshing perspective in the community. Although we are all not a part of the inner-circle, we certainly don't need to sugarcoat the facts and you have been more than truthful in your post. Unless we have this honest balance of reporting, this so called community might as well be considered a cult. Forge ahead with your analysis as I for one appreciate the tact and style for with you deliver truth in your message. I support Whitecoin as you and the rest of the folks, but will not stick my head in the sand and pretend everything is OK. As an investor, you have every right to be heard and if they wish to place you or I on the ignore list, so be it. What is more important is being open and honest about all activity with the coin, and to this point has been a little questionable. I guess if you are not sporting your cheerleader outfit you are automatically classified as someone spreading FUD, so hike up your skirt a little more I guess lol.

Hey! Loving how many Maritimers there are around here. Power situation has stabilized for the most part in my neighbourhood (halifax) but still a bit nervous about firing up the desktop in case of surges. We had about 130K residences without power here, and I'm looking forward to a trip down to the annapolis valley this week where I'll probably spend about two days chopping fallen trees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg

Thanks for your heartfelt reply kestrel, I can see now that I was wrong and I'd like to offer you my apology. As someone who has spent the better part of their career trying to raise the same bells of careful thought and consideration among the public, I can totally empathize with your position

There have been times where you've made direct statements about my actions that I felt were implying things that needed correction. For example, when I encouraged people to buy before the announcement of our registration. I know you think that was wrong of me, but I'm the president of the foundation and my primary responsibility is to coordinate and promote this coin. I do think encouraging people to buy when market conditions indicate its a good time is well within that mandate. And you'll note, anyone who bought according to my advice that day has not lost anything and in fact would have increased their portfolios. So if you can put yourself in my shoes for a moment, between you seemingly making some vague accusations towards myself, combined with some of your other negative comments, as well as my lack of having seen you actively participating outside of bitcointalk.... I jumped to a conclusion that may not have been fair to you.

We need critical thinkers like you in WhiteCoin. I encourage you to continue ringing the bell when you think we need to readjust course, I just hope you can also understand that's a tough job and that sometimes people may "ring back". If you can balance in some good constructive toned comments into that critical thinking, I'd say you'd have a long and bright future ahead of you in this community if you're up for it.

All the best,

Chris

If calling someone out for saying they are buying millions of coins is FUD then I guess I must be talking FUD.  If the white coin market is stagnant and pretty much just run by bots on exchanges is FUD then once again I am guilty of talking FUD.
Are any of the above statements not true?  Are the 24 hour volumes for WC lying on all these trading platforms?
I also got the impression that you thought I was talking about you when mentioning how WC is just a bot fest, may not of been a guilty conscience but you soon came on and denied anyone from the foundation would do such a thing even though no one accused you of it.  Like someone else said, interesting reply.

I am part of no group to FUD or troll this coin and if you go look at my posts I don't just live on this thread hyping WC like quite a few special accounts seem to be doing.  I have concerns and pull people up on BS hype, people don't talk crap I wont pull them up on it, quite simple really.
It is OK to lie and hype but not pick people up on their lies and false hype, alrighty then.

By all means put me on your ignore list like GRV has as I care little for what he says anyway.  If someone says something that is a blatant lie or is say for instance telling people to buy coins at least 48+ hours before anything is even concrete(ring a bell?) I will pick them up on it.

Be honest and be legit and I will not call anyone out.  Just because I am invested in this coin it does not mean I should just accept and let people talk shit and make false hype for their own gains and possibly sucker some unfortunate person into buying into a bot wall.

You will of course not agree but I think I am actually one of the few that does speak from the heart and with honesty in this thread, maybe that is where the issue lays.