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Quote from: xcloudcoin on July 30, 2014, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: poornamelessme on July 30, 2014, 10:33:57 AM

I'm repeating some questions I asked earlier and didn't get a reply to:

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Some general questions for the dev ...

Played around with the site a little bit, and it looks decent enough. But I have some questions (and apologies if they are dumb questions).

Is this similar to storj, where the blockchain is used for cloud storage? It looks more like a traditional cloud storage site, centralized, which you plan to fund via crypto. And if that is the case, what purpose does the coin serve exactly?

Im sorry i didnt get to answer.

is not similar to storj, we will be using the block chain for our small drive feature and seed tracker under 25mb, we are still under research on those two, correct at this point we have a centralized solution with features pointing at the crypto user and daily functions with privacy in hand, the purpose of the coin is to bring cloud and crypto together taking from both parts cloud features and decentralize wallet features, having the coin has a payment method would bring more people to adoption of it, just b/c they have daily functions with privacy.

just a simple example, say you have a friend that is not too interested in crypto but hes into group sharing or video streaming or cloud privacy, maybe he wants to back some files or make a voip call (a premium feature we are working on), at some point the coin adoption will happen if your reward users with the coin (reward program for user referrals and usage of their account), has we are focusing on user experience and interactivity with customer care is our goal to bring the two together.

Hmm... okay, appreciate the answers.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but it does sound like a similar situation as to if we pretend dropbox (when it was in its infancy) just decided to add a crypto coin as a payment option, and offered rewards for referrals. Nothing inherently wrong with that, just that the coin isn't really part of the whole cloud thing, nor necessary exactly. It's more for your initial funding + payment/referral features (at least that is what I gather).

I guess I expected a greater level of incorporation with crypto. More decentralization using the blockchain or something similar. Something that could be interesting and maybe a bit simpler for you to do, would be to use the coin as a form of POS, but instead of just coin earned, cloudspace could be earned, simply based on holdings? Such as owning a certain amount of XCloud gives the user a certain amount of file space (without the user needing to actually spend the coin)? Anything like that planned? Or is that what you mean by using the coin for payment?

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Quote from: poornamelessme on July 30, 2014, 10:33:57 AM

I'm repeating some questions I asked earlier and didn't get a reply to:

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Some general questions for the dev ...

Played around with the site a little bit, and it looks decent enough. But I have some questions (and apologies if they are dumb questions).

Is this similar to storj, where the blockchain is used for cloud storage? It looks more like a traditional cloud storage site, centralized, which you plan to fund via crypto. And if that is the case, what purpose does the coin serve exactly?

Im sorry i didnt get to answer.

is not similar to storj, we will be using the block chain for our small drive feature and seed tracker under 25mb, we are still under research on those two, correct at this point we have a centralized solution with features pointing at the crypto user and daily functions with privacy in hand, the purpose of the coin is to bring cloud and crypto together taking from both parts cloud features and decentralize wallet features, having the coin has a payment method would bring more people to the adoption of it, just b/c they have daily functions with privacy.

just a simple example, say you have a friend that is not too interested in crypto but hes into group sharing or video streaming or cloud privacy, maybe he wants to back some files or make a voip call (a premium feature we are working on), at some point the coin adoption will happen if your reward users with the coin (reward program for user referrals and usage of their account), has we are focusing on user experience and interactivity with customer care is our goal to bring the two together.

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I'm repeating some questions I asked earlier and didn't get a reply to:

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Some general questions for the dev ...

Played around with the site a little bit, and it looks decent enough. But I have some questions (and apologies if they are dumb questions).

Is this similar to storj, where the blockchain is used for cloud storage? It looks more like a traditional cloud storage site, centralized, which you plan to fund via crypto. And if that is the case, what purpose does the coin serve exactly?

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Quote from: U on July 30, 2014, 04:26:17 AM

This means bittrex is the escrow provider?
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-CLD

Correct

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Hey guys!

We have just added CLD to Cryptonator's services, which means you can use all its free features now

Convert its price to any other crypto or fiat using converter
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Find Exchanges which trades XCloudcoin
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Should you own an iPhone or an Android device, we also have all these in our free mobile apps for iOS / Android

Cheers

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Great thanks.

Don't forget to pm us to get a free invite to our beta, if you would like to explore our service with out an invite
we have a test account setup, user test pass testing https://xcloudcoin.org/login

Thanks to everyone supporting the beta testing.

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This means bittrex is the escrow provider?
https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-CLD

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Quote from: xcloudcoin on July 29, 2014, 10:26:43 PM

i stated i was going public before the ico whent live and i did, something else is posting my id on this forum, ill provide my id and requirements to those that are working to make the community safe, just like Coinssource.com

I'm still not sure who You are. So are You Ray carlo (sic) Danetti?

And in case You want to run a 300.000$ business better improve Your English.

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Quote from: Bergmannx on July 29, 2014, 10:17:09 PM

Quote from: xcloudcoin on July 29, 2014, 10:00:37 PM

https://i.imgur.com/4Llwxbl.png

outbox of the ico request

We are now verified by coinssource.com

https://i.imgur.com/WnSf4It.png

Since Your identity is revealed already Ray carlo (sic) Danetti, I guess it won't be a problem for You to post a picture with Your face and Your ID.
People are a bit suspicious here lately.

i stated i was going public before the ico whent live and i did, something else is posting my id on this forum, ill provide my id and requirements to those that are working to make the community safe, just like Coinssource.com

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Quote from: xcloudcoin on July 29, 2014, 10:00:37 PM

outbox of the ico request

We are now verified by coinssource.com

Since Your identity is revealed already Ray carlo (sic) Danetti, I guess it won't be a problem for You to post a picture with Your face and Your ID.
People are a bit suspicious here lately.

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https://twitter.com/CoinsSource/status/494315186753261569

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https://i.imgur.com/4Llwxbl.png

outbox of the ico request

We are now verified by coinssource.com

https://i.imgur.com/WnSf4It.png

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The dev seems to be familiar with Bittrex's ICO process

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Quote from: dandruff1138 on July 29, 2014, 08:54:49 PM

Well We just caught the developer in a huge lie. S C A M

In case you weren't aware, the dev's identity I believe is listed on the 1st page of this announcement, under his linkedin profile. He stated this earlier in the thread too. Although this doesn't mean the dev proved his identity with any documents to Bittrex -- I don't believe he stated that they asked for it, just that they knew who he was.

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Quote from: richiela on July 29, 2014, 06:20:48 PM

Quote from: poornamelessme on July 29, 2014, 02:31:25 PM

Quote from: richiela on July 29, 2014, 02:22:39 PM

Hi everyone,

Just as a reminder, we are providing an escrow for this coin development team. While we are listing the ICO, we are not endorsing this coin or any others on our exchange. Please use your own judgement before trading.

The escrow terms are as follows:
At the end of the ICO, all of the unsold CLD coins get destroyed.
We will verify that coins transfer properly on the block chain using the public wallet source
A public block explorer is available to verify that all coins are accounted for as stated in the ANN

If that all works, we provide the developers access to the ICO account and the BTC after a 3 day escrow period. If any of the conditions fail, we use the ICO funds to buy back and destroy all of the coins.

Richie

There has been some mention of Bittrex using updated requirements in this thread. Is there any truth to that, and if so, what are those requirements? By a lack of mention just now by you, I will assume the ICO requirements are the same as always.

I will also take this opportunity to ask why isn't Bittrex using rules similar to Poloniex, which includes requiring the devs to prove their identity, and no giant lumpsum payouts with strict bookkeeping? The last several ICOs on Bittrex haven't even gotten off the ground for a reason.

The requirements are around delivery mainly. Here is what is sent to any potential ICO participants:

1) We will code review before initially adding the wallet.
2) Then you will transfer the premine IPO coins to us. if there are premined coins that are not part of the ICO, this must be disclosed in your ANN
3) We run the ICO at whatever price you are looking for but we'd recommend a reasonable market cap.
4) After the ICO period ends, if there are remaining coins, we will destroy them and provide you an address to post
5) We will hold your BTC in escrow for 3 days.
a) Transfer coins to verify that the block chain functions properly.
b) You must have a block explorer available.
6) If that all works, we will give you access to the ICO account and the BTC. If any of the conditions fail, we will use the ICO funds to buy back and destroy all of the coins and you will forfeit the escrow fee.

Thanks,
Richie

The dev seems to be familiar with Bittrex's ICO process.
Has Bittrex hosted any previous ICO for the same dev?
Also, does your review process includes ID verification?

Keep in mind, Richie, the dev avoided any specifics when responding to my earlier questions, and simply referred to a future white paper.

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Quote from: poornamelessme on July 29, 2014, 08:24:30 PM

Quote from: Bergmannx on July 29, 2014, 08:19:54 PM

Quote from: dandruff1138 on July 29, 2014, 07:00:47 PM

The developer claimed one of the requirements was to verify his/her identity. You did not list this. Was this a lie?

This. Dev stated Bittrex got his identity.

With these requirements Icebergcoin "dev" was able to rob people by 100 BTC. So Bittrex seems to continiue the way they did and help pulling out thousands of BTC every month from altcoin markets. When Your volume is less than 100 BTC You might realize You doing it wrong.

Btw, dev here registered XCloudCoin.org anonymously. No real surprise, I know.

Besides Iceberg, don't forget DCM. Over 120 BTC stolen by the devs, and I believe the coin is even delisted now. And I can't speak for other coins, as I didn't keep track, but when I say stolen, I mean literally stolen -- they packed up their bags, locked and closed the coin threads, and simply vanished.

Well We just caught the developer in a huge lie. S C A M

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Quote from: Bergmannx on July 29, 2014, 08:19:54 PM

Quote from: dandruff1138 on July 29, 2014, 07:00:47 PM

The developer claimed one of the requirements was to verify his/her identity. You did not list this. Was this a lie?

This. Dev stated Bittrex got his identity.

With these requirements Icebergcoin "dev" was able to rob people by 100 BTC. So Bittrex seems to continiue the way they did and help pulling out thousands of BTC every month from altcoin markets. When Your volume is less than 100 BTC You might realize You doing it wrong.

Btw, dev here registered XCloudCoin.org anonymously. No real surprise, I know.

Besides Iceberg, don't forget DCM. Over 120 BTC stolen by the devs, and I believe the coin is even delisted now. And I can't speak for other coins, as I didn't keep track, but when I say stolen, I mean literally stolen -- they packed up their bags, locked and closed the coin threads, and simply vanished.

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Quote from: dandruff1138 on July 29, 2014, 07:00:47 PM

Quote from: poornamelessme on July 29, 2014, 06:29:52 PM

Quote from: richiela on July 29, 2014, 06:20:48 PM

The requirements are around delivery mainly. Here is what is sent to any potential ICO participants:

1) We will code review before initially adding the wallet.
2) Then you will transfer the premine IPO coins to us. if there are premined coins that are not part of the ICO, this must be disclosed in your ANN
3) We run the ICO at whatever price you are looking for but we'd recommend a reasonable market cap.
4) After the ICO period ends, if there are remaining coins, we will destroy them and provide you an address to post
5) We will hold your BTC in escrow for 3 days.
a) Transfer coins to verify that the block chain functions properly.
b) You must have a block explorer available.
6) If that all works, we will give you access to the ICO account and the BTC. If any of the conditions fail, we will use the ICO funds to buy back and destroy all of the coins and you will forfeit the escrow fee.

Thanks,
Richie

Have you considered somewhat more stricter requirements?

Such as requiring a form of identification?
Or holding funds until they are used for what the dev claims they will be used for?
With strict bookkeeping. No giant lumpsum payouts.

You must realize that your more recent ICOs have gone rather horribly, and that people aren't as interested in them as they used to be. Better rules, and holding ICOs less frequently, should help. You may also want to be pickier as to the coins you accept for ICOs too, just choosing the cream of the crop.

The developer claimed one of the requirements was to verify his/her identity. You did not list this. Was this a lie?

This. Dev stated Bittrex got his identity.

With these requirements Icebergcoin "dev" was able to rob people by 100 BTC. So Bittrex seems to continiue the way they did and help pulling out thousands of BTC every month from altcoin markets. When Your volume is less than 100 BTC You might realize You doing it wrong.

Btw, dev here registered XCloudCoin.org anonymously. No real surprise, I know.

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When you guys get rich from this coin, I have something else for you. There is this bank officer in Nigeria that has unclaimed funds and needs help to get it out of the country.

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Quote from: poornamelessme on July 29, 2014, 06:29:52 PM

Quote from: richiela on July 29, 2014, 06:20:48 PM

The requirements are around delivery mainly. Here is what is sent to any potential ICO participants:

1) We will code review before initially adding the wallet.
2) Then you will transfer the premine IPO coins to us. if there are premined coins that are not part of the ICO, this must be disclosed in your ANN
3) We run the ICO at whatever price you are looking for but we'd recommend a reasonable market cap.
4) After the ICO period ends, if there are remaining coins, we will destroy them and provide you an address to post
5) We will hold your BTC in escrow for 3 days.
a) Transfer coins to verify that the block chain functions properly.
b) You must have a block explorer available.
6) If that all works, we will give you access to the ICO account and the BTC. If any of the conditions fail, we will use the ICO funds to buy back and destroy all of the coins and you will forfeit the escrow fee.

Thanks,
Richie

Have you considered somewhat more stricter requirements?

Such as requiring a form of identification?
Or holding funds until they are used for what the dev claims they will be used for?
With strict bookkeeping. No giant lumpsum payouts.

You must realize that your more recent ICOs have gone rather horribly, and that people aren't as interested in them as they used to be. Better rules, and holding ICOs less frequently, should help. You may also want to be pickier as to the coins you accept for ICOs too, just choosing the cream of the crop.

The developer claimed one of the requirements was to verify his/her identity. You did not list this. Was this a lie?

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Quote from: richiela on July 29, 2014, 06:20:48 PM

The requirements are around delivery mainly. Here is what is sent to any potential ICO participants:

1) We will code review before initially adding the wallet.
2) Then you will transfer the premine IPO coins to us. if there are premined coins that are not part of the ICO, this must be disclosed in your ANN
3) We run the ICO at whatever price you are looking for but we'd recommend a reasonable market cap.
4) After the ICO period ends, if there are remaining coins, we will destroy them and provide you an address to post
5) We will hold your BTC in escrow for 3 days.
a) Transfer coins to verify that the block chain functions properly.
b) You must have a block explorer available.
6) If that all works, we will give you access to the ICO account and the BTC. If any of the conditions fail, we will use the ICO funds to buy back and destroy all of the coins and you will forfeit the escrow fee.

Thanks,
Richie

Have you considered somewhat more stricter requirements?

Such as requiring a form of identification?
Or holding funds until they are used for what the dev claims they will be used for?
With strict bookkeeping. No giant lumpsum payouts.

You must realize that your more recent ICOs have gone rather horribly, and that people aren't as interested in them as they used to be. Better rules, and holding ICOs less frequently, should help. You may also want to be pickier as to the coins you accept for ICOs too, just choosing the cream of the crop.

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