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Topic: [ANN] [XEL] :: XEL - The Decentralized Supercomputer :: - page 179. (Read 253624 times)

legendary
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Hello, what's the difference between Elastic and SONM? Some people have told me that the differences are minimal and that practically Elastic is made up of a smaller team than SONM, is this true?

Just guessing here (guess might contain incorrect information)... the one exists in working prototype form the other doesn't?

Also, because there is a constant team talk going on here: what would you prefer, a lady staying with you for an hourly payment, or one that really loves you even if you have nothing  Cheesy  I think we can be glad to have true enthusiasts and brilliant out of the box thinkers gathered around, and nor a highly paid PR team in pinstripe suits lol.

most of people forget the real spirit of crypto world. one satoshi released the bitcoin network.
full member
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Hello, what's the difference between Elastic and SONM? Some people have told me that the differences are minimal and that practically Elastic is made up of a smaller team than SONM, is this true? I really like the concept worked, you are to be congratulated! A new thread is always welcome, good luck. Cheesy


XEL is better than golem, golem is better than Sonm..

about sonm and iex..i do not know.. maybe sonm=iex.

that's all.
hero member
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Hey guys, could someone please invite me to the slack channel? Or where are you organized?


https://elasticfans.herokuapp.com/
sr. member
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Hey guys, could someone please invite me to the slack channel? Or where are you organized?
legendary
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Anyone here selling some of their XEL?

Send me offers.
legendary
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Hello, what's the difference between Elastic and SONM? Some people have told me that the differences are minimal and that practically Elastic is made up of a smaller team than SONM, is this true?

Just guessing here (guess might contain incorrect information)... the one exists in working prototype form the other doesn't?

Also, because there is a constant team talk going on here: what would you prefer, a lady staying with you for an hourly payment, or one that really loves you even if you have nothing  Cheesy  I think we can be glad to have true enthusiasts and brilliant out of the box thinkers gathered around, and nor a highly paid PR team in pinstripe suits lol.
legendary
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The great thing about an open source project like this is that any developer can take it any direction they'd like as long as the community adopts it.

I'm open to ideas other than the SNs, just keep in mind there are a lot of constraints that need to be met.  So if people have alternate solutions for how a distributed network can fully validate the POW / Bounty submissions without creating a bottleneck, please provide your ideas.

I've also pitched a couple of alternate ideas to EK, but really he's pretty busy right now so this would probably be the best opportunity to revisit this topic before he has time to work on the Core Server again.

One last thing...regardless of what we do, maybe it would be best to change the name of it...even in the current design it's not a SuperNode the way other blockchains think of it.  It's simply a Core Server node that has the ability to run the ElasticPL engine to validate POW / Bounty submissions.

The very short version:  A job requester would annotate an SSA form program (in a specific machine model resulting in a particularly structured (binary) flow graph)  with a simple liveness/reachability model so that miners could (quickly, and without running any example case inputs) verify the necessary complexity bound of the job's individual work task before selecting.  PoW solutions would operate a little differently (still using "per user" generated inputs incl nonce data, but basically hashing/checking "instruction by instruction" instead of at the end of each input run) so that PoW solution rates become uniform across jobs, being able to be found at any point mid-execution.  (PoW prize pool would probably also need to work a little differently, with any amount of proof-of-work certificates able to be submitted before a bounty is found, and the PoW pool being divided proportionally after.)  Bounty solutions would include an annotation of the original model with information about the eventual I/O relation, such that verifying the output submission can be reduced to an instance of a satisfiability problem.  Nodes (all of them) would validate solutions against this model. (They would still need to "re-run the program" by a symbolic interpretation, but could know that they are doing so in an optimally efficient way - effectively skipping any "unrelated loops" encountered.)  Jobs would always end after one bounty is found.

I'm summarizing a lot, but that is the basic idea.

great discussion and inputs.
hero member
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just come back and show some support.

this is one of my favorite project in 2017.

sr. member
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Ben2016
Does anyone know if the XEL wallet created during testnet on wallet.elastic.pw can be used when we go live ( Mainnet) ?
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waiting distributed for a long time~~
sr. member
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EK and the elastic team are the hero's we need.  Grin <3
hero member
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Waiting for the mainnet.
It would be top coin.


top10 coin.

much much better than that hyped golem..

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AMD | Mining | NVIDIA
Waiting for the mainnet.
It would be top coin.
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I now applied @xtester's OP proposal. I hope the "important contributors" part with the profile-links is OK. Otherwise say something and i delete it.

Nice. We have a twitter btw. It's https://twitter.com/elastic_coin. I just don't remember who is in control of it.

I created that twitter account . It's in the hands of the community if someone can use it better ( i guess there are many Smiley ).
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Nice new thread, just waiting on the mainnet.  Grin
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Ben2016
I promise to catch up with all those nice and brilliant ideas regarding the payout model as well as all unanswered private messages this weekend. Starting tomorrow Wink
EK, I know it sounds repetitive, but wanna say " Thank You " for your dedication  Smiley
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want to buy .. PM me.
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So Is there some kind of swap from old xel to new xel?

What old XEL? XEL isn't even released yet.
OK al clear  Smiley thx

The only thing new is this ANN thread. Because the creator of the old thread is gone, and the OP can't be updated.
hero member
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So Is there some kind of swap from old xel to new xel?

What old XEL? XEL isn't even released yet.
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