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Say's the newbie, registered this year. I haven't seen many people say it's a scam. Just people bringing up issues, that WCX doesn't respond too. WHY?

But that brings up a good point. Is something NOT a scam unless proven to be a scam? OR, is something a scam unless proven NOT to be a scam.
Either way, WCX doesn't give enough to prove it is or isn't. Hence, wait for more info. Only said it enough times. but hey, go ahead, let's see your receipt buying WCX.


Ok, am working on putting together information right now. Also, real funny. I just signed up for 3 new accounts. It's call VPN. Even can use just a cell phone.

Economics, sure. Lower fees, but then you HAVE to get more volume. Volume isn't just magically going to appear, to get more volume, you HAVE to give a reason for more people. Ok, lower fees is a start but it won't help for long. GDAX has ZERO fees for limit orders, why don't they process billions per day? There is also a point at which revenue will cross below expenses because volume will top out. Im glad you think volume is an unlimited supply. It's more complex than lower fees = more volume.

Doesn't change the fact that it's evidence-free gibberish.


Vapid speculation is what you offered and exactly the type of speculation that this thread is filled with. There are legit complaints here and there from a few posters but they're outnumbered by the (usually) 1 - 3 "SCAM!!!" posts by once dormant Newbie accounts.


4. Mostly real.

The "Duh?" option.


No, evidence-free because you either don't have any evidence or won't provide it. But it doesn't matter to you as muddying the waters is enough for your marketing ploy.


Or your claims that you've contacted them/not received a response is. Perhaps they felt your inquiry didn't deserve a response, I can definitely see that happening. I haven't contacted them so who knows. Bittrex took > 3 days to answer my inquiry, same with Binance and LBC but this is hardly indicative of every person's experience.


Someone should call GDAX then.


You flung poop, those aren't reasons. I couldn't care less about giving you a reason to trust them especially after your last two ad posts.


Riiight. Yours is legit, theirs isn't. Cool story.


You didn't think about that before your marketing? Oh wait...

@benjismarket they have captcha + 1 IP per signup. learn before talking.

Your posts is full of speculation. please proof you contact support, and their answer. please proof everything you say. otherwise don't say. just another troll.


you need to review your economics my dear... lower fees does not mean lower income. how about lower fees = more volume = more income. welcome to economy 101.

You just sound like you're using this thread popularity to promote your apolo project, every post you talk about it

@Coiner_

     The Alexa ratings are different today than a few weeks ago when I initially looked up their numbers. Hence, was talking about 250k sign-ups vs their 356k sign-ups today. Also, I know others have brought notice to issues, but most people just complain without details. I was giving the most details I had. All the numbers are just typical rough statistics. Think about it. Right now, numbers are showing over 800K visitors to their site. Without the Pareto principle, just think about. How many page views are repeat users? How many times have you visited wcex.co... ? 1,5, 20 times?

It's easy to say, there are 3 reasons to explain their 356k sign-ups.

• Completely fake, random counter
• Real sign-ups, just multiple accounts per person, OR, people sign up and then do nothing
• All real, one account per visitor, no one goes and visits the site more than 3 times in the last two months.

Which one seems feasible ...  

Evidence free because it's just statistics. Everything is hypothetical and evidence free because wcex team doesn't respond to inquiries. The "Awesome Customer Support team" statement is bs. Makes you wonder what else is. As for "less fees = less services provided".  Not sure how that doesn't make sense. Lesser fees mean lower income for the exchange. Lower income, fewer services they can provide because they will have to cut expenses.

I mentioned my reasoning for not trusting wcex, you, didn't mention any reason TO trust wcex and I was being transparent so people know I am a little bias, instead of having someone go and point out, "hey don't listen to this guy, he's competition". AND I didn't say don't buy their coins, don't believe their info, just maybe wait for more information. It doesn't matter to me, our platform isn't in the same competitive space as we have a product, everyone will get to demo it, everyone gets our coins at the same price and everyone gets to control where their money is spent.

But hey, let's see what happens. 10.10 or tomorrow. Was suppose to see their demo tomorrow, right?

I love how makers of shit ICOs are come in here to say WCX is scam with no proof. hahahahahaha

lets see what will happen at 10.10.2017

Yes, but they get a bunch of primary themed users. This is also great and a good start for the project.

We will look at the product that they will provide for testing! But I also do not really like free distribution for attracting new users, in fact, interest should be on the quality of the product and not on getting a freebie! While watching the project!

- If you took time to read through the thread rather than dumping your text wall you'd have seen you're not the first with these accusations.
- Do you have any evidence against the number of sign ups or are you just flinging poop hoping it sticks?


Actually, Alexa puts adbtc.top at 14.2% and google.com at 10.7% so you're gonna have to do better than that:



Similarweb does put adbtc (a site with over 250K users) close to 50% but this...


...is evidence-free gibberish.


Trickery? Really? Setting a select dropdown to your expected daily trading volume is trickery? Fascinating.

As for your "5 - 50 million", Binance is probably the most (only?) notable new exchange and I've never seen it at or below $60M.


That is the most inane non-sequitur I've seen on this thread in a while. Good job.


So to summarize your rehashed words that have already been plastered throughout this thread: you have nothing.


Um, no. You're the one that has the BoP. Flinging accusations left, right and center and asking someone to prove you wrong is not gonna fly.


Of course you are!   And yours is 100% legit, right? Adorable.

Since no one else is mentioning the red flags.

• They claim to have over 300k sign-ups. Typical big-ticket ICO usually has 20k people buying tokens.
• Checking alexa, similarweb and other sources, it looks as if 50% of their traffic comes from adbtc.com. Not saying that is bad, but, when they claimed to have 250k sign ups,
   we checked their visitor numbers, and it was around 400k visitors total at the time. Knowing adbtc, maybe 1% of the people using that service would actually do something on the sites they get paid to visit. so, 50% of traffic = 200k people. 10% (being generous) = 20k people signing up. From the other 200k visitors, most likely half are repeat visits. Even though it would most likely be 80% repeats. That left 100k possible unique visitors. Very few people actually sign up for things that involves giving out their email. Let's be nice, and say 50% of unique visitors signed up (more like 5% max). Then that leaves 50K sign ups. Add the 50k plus 20k. They should only have 70k signups max, when they were saying 250k. That was just a few weeks ago.
• Their main box showing dividend payouts gives an average daily volume of 1 billion as the default. Trickery. The highest average is around 500mill right now, and that is for well know exchanges. If you research new exchanges starting out, they average around 5-50 million daily and would take a year or two to get higher. There just wouldn't be good enough volume to be attractive
• Cheaper fees, 10%! 10% of 1% is 0.1%. The average fees on exchanges are around 0.15%-0.25%. So... 0.05% cheaper... Plus, less fees, less services they can provide. 
• No pictures of your platform. Alpha limited to 5000 people, who are probably fake people. Whats the issue releasing to everyone. O, I know. You have a pre-sale and will just keep collecting money till you can pay to build something. Or, their response would probably be, "our system can only handle 5000k connections for testing"...

Overall, the numbers don't add up, either they lie or haven't done actual research. I've asked the wcex for proof of their 300k+ signups.. No response. My suggestion, wait to see their platform before buying anything. Someone prove me wrong, would still wait to see their platform.

** I am working on another team for a similar better project, I may be a little bias, but the information provided can be found easily, called g o o g l e. **

"The WCX ICO will have a fixed hidden cap. 8% of tokens are reserved for the team and advisors; 5% are reserved for pre-ICO marketing and bounties; and 87% are reserved for the token sale itself (including pre-ICO bulk buyers). Bonuses will be available for early buyers."

The hidden cap is 1,000,000,000.

8% reserved for team and advisors is 80,000,000

5% reserved for pre-ico would be 50,000,000.    The whitepaper advertises 375,000 signups so far, let's figure 300,000 of those are 'valid' and got 50 tokens for signing up.  A bunch of people referred a few to a bunch of people, so let's figure 150 tokens average  (Too little?  Too high?)

150 tokens per, that's 45 million of that 50 million.   If it's 375,000 signups that's over the 50 million.

So.....all the bonuses (5% of referree's buy, 15% bonus for referred people's purchase amount) must come out of the remaining 870,000,000 tokens (minus whatever was sold pre-ico [do we have any numbers on how much that is/was?]).

Anything terribly wrong about that math?
 

That's a fair point.

"Why"? Is that a serious question?


It's a non-sequitur. Anonymity doesn't automagically imply your location is unknown.

When and how do you announce alpha testers?

Why, did they edit their response?

Are you saying that my statement is factually incorrect?  "If US residents aren't allowed, then claims of anonymous account creation are false."

300,000 users at 100-50 free coins each for signing up, that's....15,000,000 to 30,000,000.  And that all grew from referral, so it's probably 30,000,000 to 60,000,000 easy.

Hey man, please, dont be naive. Any proof about 300000 users??? Do you know any person who involved in this project?? With name and surname?? Im too long in this business to believe only beautiful words. If you may have noticed. Many users have already asked about people who are involved in this "project", but we have not received any answers to this day. That probably means something or not?
BTW, there is too many free tokens. This is a bad sign for me. Always.
One more thing. The fact is that the WCX ICO hard cap is hidden. How are you supposed to decide if it's a good deal if you dont know what is the ICO market cap? Faceless developers just asking for millions with huge monthly returns. Please be careful before investing money in this project

low fee exchanger???

Can't wait to see what's gonna happen.

I'm excited to hear if the testing of the platform is running as planned!