[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax - page 207.

degxtra1

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Quote from: Belligerent Fool on November 26, 2016, 01:39:58 PM

Quote from: degxtra1 on November 26, 2016, 07:00:08 AM

Quote from: Belligerent Fool on November 24, 2016, 02:48:02 AM

I currently mine ZCL and ZEC with 2x R9 280x and get 350sol/s for my average hashrate so about 175sol/s each GPU.

This is on stock bios, stock memory, stock core and only using intensity set at 2

At this current time it says I will earn 2.67 ZCL a day but a few hours ago was at 4.8 something ZCL, difficulty fluctuates.

I would say you would get between 150-160sol/s with R9 280's although can't confirm that since I don't mine with them.

The fastest miner currently available at this time is Claymores ZCASH Miner V7.0, it can be used for any coin that uses the Equihash mining algorithm.

For checking difficulty and profitability I like to use in combination:

CoinWarz: www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

&

WhatToMine: www.whattomine.com

Thanks for clear explanation

Those statistics for hashrate are now outdated and irrelavant since Claymore has released V8.0 of the AMD ZCASH Miner, I get 210sol/s on a R9 280x with the latest miner, everything stock + stock bios, 15.12 AMD display drivers & intensity set at 2.

OK, just before I will enter again mining industry Wink

got another few questions:

1 What is hashrate with radeon nano card?
2 What is hasrate with gtx 970 card?
3 Cpu mining with Xenon ie v3 2630?

play store

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Quote from: Tinfoilwhale on November 29, 2016, 12:46:53 PM

Quote from: play store on November 29, 2016, 07:31:53 AM

Is there any price speculations for zclassic ? if yes someone should kindly point me toit because i am not comfortable with the current price after buying a lot of it at 0.0022 btc.
I need to know whether to dump or hold because the zclassic market is is in deep red.

No offense, and I know people are fast to call you a fudder.

I've been watching ZCL for days in hope it would find a floor for trading purposes but it's still on it's way ever since. On Bittrex it's 10 BTC away from hitting the 1 sat floor.

To be perfectly honest I just noticed the trend and googled for a bitcointalk thread to see what's up.
You don't have to listen to me, but I'd rather sell now. Re-buy at the floor, wait for it to go up a bit and sell for ever.
This thing is going straight to Yobit.

PS.: I just noticed your post because I was googling and hoped I would be a help.

Thank you for your contributions, i actually sold of at 0.001 btc which is the huge buy order at cex, on the contrary, i do not wish to buy this coin back because there are thousands coins out there to trade for profits unless the dev can make a convincing announcement.

movrcx

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Hi all I'm one of the lead Zclassic devs and I'm the one who mined the genesis block. I just wanted to give some input as far as vision with the coin and short-term and long-term goals.

I'm heavily involved in the privacy/infosec community and have been working on an alternative to the Tor Browser and came across Rhett's plan on Twitter about forking Zcash. I thought it was ingenious and offered some help and that's how I came to mine the genesis block.

Lately I've been putting my spare time working on the first completely open-source Equihash pool (https://github.com/joshuayabut/z-nomp) which currently works for mining but still needs a bit more testing. As soon as that's stable I'll be focusing on developing a Windows wallet for Zclassic.

My main goal is to drive up usability of the coin and to make it a better alternative than Zcash. In the end I'm hoping the coin is stable enough that I can include it into my Tor browser alternative for secure and anonymous payments.

If you want to help out we really need people to assist with writing, development, and community support.

I'm normally around on Slack if you need anything.

Thanks for listening!

Nthused

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Every day this situation reminds me more of the whole ETH/ETC debacle, Founders Premine-No Premine, Originals always do better.

gsxrboy

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Quote from: valley365 on November 29, 2016, 10:05:14 PM

Quote from: Jabbawa on November 28, 2016, 11:03:51 AM

Quote from: TheDasher on November 28, 2016, 02:02:22 AM

Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd. If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.

8 people will collude sounds hard, but the fact is that all these people may know each other, that would make it not so hard to do... There's always the aspect of the real world, people are related to each other.

If the coin is successful , Bitcoin successful the founders will have 2.1 Million coins, if the coin ever reaches $1000 that's

2 100 000 000 $

Do they need better incentive then this.

Why jeopardize...

valley365

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Quote from: Jabbawa on November 28, 2016, 11:03:51 AM

Quote from: TheDasher on November 28, 2016, 02:02:22 AM

Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd. If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.

8 people will collude sounds hard, but the fact is that all these people may know each other, that would make it not so hard to do... There's always the aspect of the real world, people are related to each other.

monsanto

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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.

Quote from: ?? on ??

lmao

fuck all your "z" whatever coins.

garbage vaporware, every single one!

gtfo!!!!!!

How many Zcash forked coins are there now besides Zclassic?

Tinfoilwhale

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Quote from: play store on November 29, 2016, 07:31:53 AM

Is there any price speculations for zclassic ? if yes someone should kindly point me toit because i am not comfortable with the current price after buying a lot of it at 0.0022 btc.
I need to know whether to dump or hold because the zclassic market is is in deep red.

No offense, and I know people are fast to call you a fudder.

I've been watching ZCL for days in hope it would find a floor for trading purposes but it's still on it's way ever since. On Bittrex it's 10 BTC away from hitting the 1 sat floor.

To be perfectly honest I just noticed the trend and googled for a bitcointalk thread to see what's up.
You don't have to listen to me, but I'd rather sell now. Re-buy at the floor, wait for it to go up a bit and sell for ever.
This thing is going straight to Yobit.

PS.: I just noticed your post because I was googling and hoped I would be a help.

john1010

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The dev must update this thread, upload the new logo, make this community alive again despite of continue fall of this coin, we must do something for it, I don't lose hope of this coin, anyway im not a holder, im just a small miner that has captured by this coin.. I hope it will go green again..

play store

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Is there any price speculations for zclassic ? if yes someone should kindly point me toit because i am not comfortable with the current price after buying a lot of it at 0.0022 btc.
I need to know whether to dump or hold because the zclassic market is is in deep red.

tomsmith26

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What about the windows wallet ? I' waiting for this so long and when is it available ?
The DEV does not want to release the windows wallet ? it's ridiculous.

dbstmddhks

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When do we see Zjazz and Zmodern and Zfuture ?

Maybe there are something like Z-series or Z-Chronicles!!!

Make every Z-generation ! Undecided

From wan.

sanas

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Quote from: szafa on November 29, 2016, 01:26:38 AM

Quote from: 2jz on November 29, 2016, 01:15:36 AM

0.00122152 BTC
where is your god now?

My god is the insane.

This differs from ZEC, developers simply do not have money for development and promotion of project. Price will probably continue to fall if Bitcoin will start to grow again.

szafa

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Quote from: 2jz on November 29, 2016, 01:15:36 AM

0.00122152 BTC
where is your god now?

My god is the insane.

cryptomaxsun

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Ukrainians will resist

Ready wallet under Linux is? It does not compile.

2jz

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0.00122152 BTC
where is your god now?

nknarula

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All good things take time. Imagine how hard it was for Bitcoin? This coin isn't even a month old yet and look at the progress.
I have no problem paying for these coins. The dev's and miners deserve it. I have very little doubt this will catch the eyes of the ZCash people who will feel quite foolish when all is said and done. Just my opinion and my belief.

DeadBirdzz

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Quote from: Jabbawa on November 28, 2016, 11:03:51 AM

Quote from: TheDasher on November 28, 2016, 02:02:22 AM

Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd. If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.

hmmmm, let's see.

Ability to be able to have as much fucking money as possible without anyone ever knowing.

8 different people you say.....

Access to "potentially" a fucking golden goose that will keep on laying them gold eggs.

Am sure, these 8 "outstanding" individuals did not feel tempted to collude at all.....

No, No.....NEVER.....

AngusCanine

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To weird to live To rare to die

Quote from: Nthused on November 25, 2016, 10:15:30 PM

A Solo Mining Pool for ZCL like how ZEC already has would be great, I would try my luck there Grin

Here's what ZEC offers for Solo Mining:

http://www.luckpool.org/#!/coin/ZCASH

http://www.zogpool.org/#!/coin/ZEC

Maybe someone could setup & host one for the ZCL Community ? Granted they get a small fee per block hit, a bit like -CK's BTC Solo Pool.

Here's the Tools to do so:

Quote from: sammy007 on November 25, 2016, 03:00:17 PM

ZCash and ZClassic solo mining stratum with Web interface.

Your personal solo ZCash & ZClassic stratum
Rigs availability monitoring
Keep track of accepts, rejects, blocks stats
Easy detection of sick rigs
Daemon failover list

Public binary release with devfee https://github.com/sammy007/zcash-proxy/releases

feel like organizing a few group lottery runs?

Jabbawa

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Quote from: TheDasher on November 28, 2016, 02:02:22 AM

Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd. If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.

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