[ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax - page 208.

TheDasher

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Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd. If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

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Quote from: valley365 on November 28, 2016, 12:26:07 AM

Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

But is there any proof that new coins being created besides those mined? With zerocash protocol, is there any way for a 3rd party to verify the total coins outstanding? With the fact they take 20% of mining, I don't see the need for them to steal more coins.

I don't think the issue is with zclassic. Isn't it a new chain? But no, there is no way to verify that 10billion coins were created before keys were destroyed.

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Quote from: randayh on November 28, 2016, 12:00:57 AM

Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

But is there any proof that new coins being created besides those mined? With zerocash protocol, is there any way for a 3rd party to verify the total coins outstanding? With the fact they take 20% of mining, I don't see the need for them to steal more coins.

randayh

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Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify. Huh

?

TheDasher

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Whats the official logo?

valley365

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Quote from: gsxrboy on November 27, 2016, 01:02:02 PM

Quote from: eugeney on November 27, 2016, 08:07:04 AM

Quote from: valley365 on November 27, 2016, 12:28:49 AM

Quote from: john1010 on November 25, 2016, 09:55:17 PM

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!

I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear

I'm no Dev , but let me try to explain: The Tor nodes are used to connect the Client trough Tor , the command used :

zcashd -proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 -onlynet=onion addnode=ONIONADDRESS should set it as tor only

You need to be running a Tor daemon service too. I think

OK cool, thanks a lot for the info. I will do some tries and experience how it works.

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Quote from: Tmdz on November 27, 2016, 07:01:21 PM

It has been a downhill slide, hope some attention can come to this coin.

I have to keep holding all these mined coins.

The attention will come for Zclassic if and when someone releases something that the other coins that use this algorithm don't have yet, e.g Windows Wallet for Zclassic before ZCASH and ZDASH, New and Different usable features, all the things along the lines of new.

Tmdz

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It has been a downhill slide, hope some attention can come to this coin.

I have to keep holding all these mined coins.

TheDasher

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Wonder when zcash plans to release windows wallet that we can fork.

petko6

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There is now a GUI wallet for ZClassic that is a fork of the ZCash Desktop GUI wallet:
https://github.com/vaklinov/zclassic-swing-wallet-ui

This wallet is suitable for users and miners who work on desktop systems and wish to have full control of the ZClassic private keys. It has all the typical features that might be expected from a desktop crypto-currency wallet:

Balance/monetary amounts
List of transactions
Status of blockchain synchronization
Management of ZCL T/Z addresses
Sending ZCL

Hopefully those who actually use (or will use) ZCassic as a currency will gain a factor of convenience as compared to using the command line tools.

kpierce77

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Man I'm glad I didn't put that much money into this coin. Been downhill ever since I bought a couple weeks ago.

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Quote from: eugeney on November 27, 2016, 08:07:04 AM

Quote from: valley365 on November 27, 2016, 12:28:49 AM

Quote from: john1010 on November 25, 2016, 09:55:17 PM

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!

I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear

I'm no Dev , but let me try to explain: The Tor nodes are used to connect the Client trough Tor , the command used :

zcashd -proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 -onlynet=onion addnode=ONIONADDRESS should set it as tor only

You need to be running a Tor daemon service too. I think

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Quote from: valley365 on November 27, 2016, 12:28:49 AM

Quote from: john1010 on November 25, 2016, 09:55:17 PM

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!

I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear

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Quote from: john1010 on November 25, 2016, 09:55:17 PM

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!

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Ukrainians will resist

I downloaded the source from github. I can not compile the manual on. Prompt, procedures, instructions for compiling, please.

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I think it needs something new to push up the price Zclassic least make something that can be bought with Zclassic, at least the miners did not sell at a low price Zclassic

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Quote from: degxtra1 on November 26, 2016, 07:00:08 AM

Quote from: Belligerent Fool on November 24, 2016, 02:48:02 AM

I currently mine ZCL and ZEC with 2x R9 280x and get 350sol/s for my average hashrate so about 175sol/s each GPU.

This is on stock bios, stock memory, stock core and only using intensity set at 2

At this current time it says I will earn 2.67 ZCL a day but a few hours ago was at 4.8 something ZCL, difficulty fluctuates.

I would say you would get between 150-160sol/s with R9 280's although can't confirm that since I don't mine with them.

The fastest miner currently available at this time is Claymores ZCASH Miner V7.0, it can be used for any coin that uses the Equihash mining algorithm.

For checking difficulty and profitability I like to use in combination:

CoinWarz: www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

&

WhatToMine: www.whattomine.com

Thanks for clear explanation

Those statistics for hashrate are now outdated and irrelavant since Claymore has released V8.0 of the AMD ZCASH Miner, I get 210sol/s on a R9 280x with the latest miner, everything stock + stock bios, 15.12 AMD display drivers & intensity set at 2.

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Quote from: Belligerent Fool on November 24, 2016, 02:48:02 AM

I currently mine ZCL and ZEC with 2x R9 280x and get 350sol/s for my average hashrate so about 175sol/s each GPU.

This is on stock bios, stock memory, stock core and only using intensity set at 2

At this current time it says I will earn 2.67 ZCL a day but a few hours ago was at 4.8 something ZCL, difficulty fluctuates.

I would say you would get between 150-160sol/s with R9 280's although can't confirm that since I don't mine with them.

The fastest miner currently available at this time is Claymores ZCASH Miner V7.0, it can be used for any coin that uses the Equihash mining algorithm.

For checking difficulty and profitability I like to use in combination:

CoinWarz: www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

&

WhatToMine: www.whattomine.com

Thanks for clear explanation

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Quote from: semajjames on November 26, 2016, 01:55:39 AM

Quote from: arielbit on November 26, 2016, 12:28:52 AM

Quote from: Nthused on November 25, 2016, 10:15:30 PM

A Solo Mining Pool for ZCL like how ZEC already has would be great, I would try my luck there Grin

Here's what ZEC offers for Solo Mining:

http://www.luckpool.org/#!/coin/ZCASH

http://www.zogpool.org/#!/coin/ZEC

Maybe someone could setup & host one for the ZCL Community ? Granted they get a small fee per block hit, a bit like -CK's BTC Solo Pool.

Here's the Tools to do so:

Quote from: sammy007 on November 25, 2016, 03:00:17 PM

ZCash and ZClassic solo mining stratum with Web interface.

Your personal solo ZCash & ZClassic stratum
Rigs availability monitoring
Keep track of accepts, rejects, blocks stats
Easy detection of sick rigs
Daemon failover list

Public binary release with devfee https://github.com/sammy007/zcash-proxy/releases

these pools don't show your progress in reaching a block, so you are pretty much blind and just waiting for your block reward.

so I take it from this that it is not possible to put a port number in the wallet.conf and point miner to that ?

well at least that is your wallet and not some pool which you do not control...at least there should be an info there on how many shares you have submitted..

i'll just wait until solo mining pools gets updated and produce a bit more transparent information and predictability. like in mining ETH in ethpool.org

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Quote from: arielbit on November 26, 2016, 12:28:52 AM

Quote from: Nthused on November 25, 2016, 10:15:30 PM

A Solo Mining Pool for ZCL like how ZEC already has would be great, I would try my luck there Grin

Here's what ZEC offers for Solo Mining:

http://www.luckpool.org/#!/coin/ZCASH

http://www.zogpool.org/#!/coin/ZEC

Maybe someone could setup & host one for the ZCL Community ? Granted they get a small fee per block hit, a bit like -CK's BTC Solo Pool.

Here's the Tools to do so:

Quote from: sammy007 on November 25, 2016, 03:00:17 PM

ZCash and ZClassic solo mining stratum with Web interface.

Your personal solo ZCash & ZClassic stratum
Rigs availability monitoring
Keep track of accepts, rejects, blocks stats
Easy detection of sick rigs
Daemon failover list

Public binary release with devfee https://github.com/sammy007/zcash-proxy/releases

these pools don't show your progress in reaching a block, so you are pretty much blind and just waiting for your block reward.

so I take it from this that it is not possible to put a port number in the wallet.conf and point miner to that ?

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