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Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax - page 208. (Read 339570 times)

legendary
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Ukrainians will resist
Ready wallet under Linux is? It does not compile.
2jz
newbie
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0.00122152 BTC
where is your god now?
newbie
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All good things take time. Imagine how hard it was for Bitcoin? This coin isn't even a month old yet and look at the progress.
I have no problem paying for these coins. The dev's and miners deserve it. I have very little doubt this will catch the eyes of the ZCash people who will feel quite foolish when all is said and done. Just my opinion and my belief.
sr. member
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Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?



8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd.  If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.

hmmmm, let's see.

Ability to be able to have as much fucking money as possible without anyone ever knowing.

8 different people you say.....

Access to "potentially" a fucking golden goose that will keep on laying them gold eggs.

Am sure, these 8 "outstanding" individuals did not feel tempted to collude at all.....

No, No.....NEVER.....
legendary
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To weird to live To rare to die
A Solo Mining Pool for ZCL like how ZEC already has would be great, I would try my luck there Grin

Here's what ZEC offers for Solo Mining:

http://www.luckpool.org/#!/coin/ZCASH

http://www.zogpool.org/#!/coin/ZEC

Maybe someone could setup & host one for the ZCL Community ? Granted they get a small fee per block hit, a bit like -CK's BTC Solo Pool.

Here's the Tools to do so:

ZCash and ZClassic solo mining stratum with Web interface.

  • Your personal solo ZCash & ZClassic stratum
  • Rigs availability monitoring
  • Keep track of accepts, rejects, blocks stats
  • Easy detection of sick rigs
  • Daemon failover list

Public binary release with devfee https://github.com/sammy007/zcash-proxy/releases

feel like organizing a few group lottery runs?
full member
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Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?



8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd.  If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.

If even one of them actually succeeded in destroying their part of the key and any means to reconstruct it, then no one can create any covert coins without hacking the cryptography itself or some such extreme scenario.

I don't think there will ever be any way to verify that this was done successfully. Although it is hard to imagine that it wasn't given how much was riding on it and the level of expertise of the guys entrusted with doing it. I feel pretty sure at least one of them did manage to destroy their part with no trace left at all. It seems likely that several of them will have succeeded imo.
sr. member
Activity: 346
Merit: 250
Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?



8 people would have had to collude during the creation ceremony including peter todd.  If they destroyed the keys as they say no coins can be created outside of schedule.
sr. member
Activity: 386
Merit: 250
Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?



But is there any proof that new coins being created besides those mined? With zerocash protocol, is there any way for a 3rd party to verify the total coins outstanding? With the fact they take 20% of mining, I don't see the need for them to steal more coins.

I don't think the issue is with zclassic. Isn't it a new chain? But no, there is no way to verify that 10billion coins were created before keys were destroyed.
hero member
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Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?



But is there any proof that new coins being created besides those mined? With zerocash protocol, is there any way for a 3rd party to verify the total coins outstanding? With the fact they take 20% of mining, I don't see the need for them to steal more coins.
sr. member
Activity: 386
Merit: 250
Let me get this straight,

The zcash founders were entrusted with keys to print as many zcash as they wanted. Now they've went on record of destroying these keys. But no one will ever know how much was ever printed beforehand because there's absolutely no way to tell. They could in effect have an unlimited supply and no way to verify.Huh?

sr. member
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Whats the official logo?
hero member
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is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!
I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear Smiley

I'm no Dev , but let me try to explain: The Tor nodes are used to connect the Client trough Tor , the command used :

zcashd -proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 -onlynet=onion addnode=ONIONADDRESS should set it as tor only

You need to be running a Tor daemon service too. I think



OK cool, thanks a lot for the info. I will do some tries and experience how it works.
sr. member
Activity: 369
Merit: 250
It has been a downhill slide, hope some attention can come to this coin.

I have to keep holding all these mined coins.

The attention will come for Zclassic if and when someone releases something that the other coins that use this algorithm don't have yet, e.g Windows Wallet for Zclassic before ZCASH and ZDASH, New and Different usable features, all the things along the lines of new.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
It has been a downhill slide, hope some attention can come to this coin.

I have to keep holding all these mined coins.
sr. member
Activity: 346
Merit: 250
Wonder when zcash plans to release windows wallet that we can fork.
newbie
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There is now a GUI wallet for ZClassic that is a fork of the ZCash Desktop GUI wallet:
https://github.com/vaklinov/zclassic-swing-wallet-ui

This wallet is suitable for users and miners who work on desktop systems and wish to have full control of the ZClassic private keys. It has all the typical features that might be expected from a desktop crypto-currency wallet:
  • Balance/monetary amounts
  • List of transactions
  • Status of blockchain synchronization
  • Management of ZCL T/Z addresses
  • Sending ZCL
Hopefully those who actually use (or will use) ZCassic as a currency will gain a factor of convenience as compared to using the command line tools.
legendary
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Merit: 1002
Man I'm glad I didn't put that much money into this coin. Been downhill ever since I bought a couple weeks ago.
full member
Activity: 160
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is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!
I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear Smiley

I'm no Dev , but let me try to explain: The Tor nodes are used to connect the Client trough Tor , the command used :

zcashd -proxy=127.0.0.1:9050 -onlynet=onion addnode=ONIONADDRESS should set it as tor only

You need to be running a Tor daemon service too. I think

hero member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 599

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!
I think, after you install the TOR-browser, many questions you disappear Smiley
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1003

is anyone here can help me how to use that onion nodes? Oh by the way one more noob question, what is onion nodes by the way? what is the use of this, sorry for my very noob question..

I am waiting for the answer too... nice to see two .onion hosts created, but how do people use them? how does it link the Zclassic with TOR etc etc need to be explained by the dev please!
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