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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 313. (Read 663504 times)

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Update on Dev 14 Nov 2016:

Our core dev Poramin has made strides towards implementation of the MTP protocol. In the paper on page 4 (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.03588v1.pdf), he has separated the result in memory into block (step 1) and will integrate the Merkel tree and select the nonce (Step 2-3) within this week.There are altogether 10 steps in the implementation of MTP (six in algo 1 (prover's algorithm) and 4 in algo 2 (verifier's algorithm)).

We are still looking for devs to help out with other aspects of the project and bounties are available so if you feel that you can help out do reach out!

We are aware of the issues for e.g. with long startup times of the wallet and after discussion we believe that the MTP algorithm has to be implemented first before optimization happens on the wallet to ensure it remains secure. For security reasons, currently the wallet recalculates all public coin ids to make sure it is consistent across all nodes. With MTP and merkle tree implemented into it optimizations can happen as well as pruning so the decision has been made to focus on MTP first.

I have appraised this xzc correctly and I have bought it much more as possible
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Good to see that the project is going on and the devs are still behind this coin. This will for sure have a good affect to the price of ZCOIN.
Thanks for the update. i belive in this coin and will further invest...
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Firo (FIRO)
Update on Dev 14 Nov 2016:

Our core dev Poramin has made strides towards implementation of the MTP protocol. In the paper on page 4 (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.03588v1.pdf), he has separated the result in memory into block (step 1) and will integrate the Merkel tree and select the nonce (Step 2-3) within this week.There are altogether 10 steps in the implementation of MTP (six in algo 1 (prover's algorithm) and 4 in algo 2 (verifier's algorithm)).

We are still looking for devs to help out with other aspects of the project and bounties are available so if you feel that you can help out do reach out!

We are aware of the issues for e.g. with long startup times of the wallet and after discussion we believe that the MTP algorithm has to be implemented first before optimization happens on the wallet to ensure it remains secure. For security reasons, currently the wallet recalculates all public coin ids to make sure it is consistent across all nodes. With MTP and merkle tree implemented into it optimizations can happen as well as pruning so the decision has been made to focus on MTP first.
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Take a listen to a debate between Gary Le from Zcoin and Riccardo (Fluffypony) from Monero. Both amazing projects!

Thanks to Cryptoholics for making this happen.

The interview can be seen on any of these links:

https://soundcloud.com/cryptoholics/ep02-interview-with-riccardo-spagni-of-monero-and-gary-le-of-zcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tO98jALPg4

http://www.cryptoholics.com/cryptoholics-ep02/

Also special thanks out there to the guys who keep on believing Cheesy There will always be FUD out there but I believe the important questions have been answered and we do have a working implementation that the average Bitcoiner can use. The fact that we now have two Zcoin clones shows that there's real value in the tech behind the project.

FYI Poramin is Thai (not Indonesian) and has been the guy doing the dev all along. The colleague mentioned is Ankit whom Poramin maintains good relations with and had helped Poramin with writing documentation and giving presentations so there's no 'work stolen'.

I would ask the people here to spread awareness and retweet CryptoHolics or my tweet of this interview:

https://twitter.com/cryptoholics/status/797941526215020544

https://twitter.com/_hightek/status/798079927727833088
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Firo (FIRO)
Take a listen to a debate between Gary Le from Zcoin and Riccardo (Fluffypony) from Monero. Both amazing projects!

Thanks to Cryptoholics for making this happen.

The interview can be seen on any of these links:

https://soundcloud.com/cryptoholics/ep02-interview-with-riccardo-spagni-of-monero-and-gary-le-of-zcoin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tO98jALPg4

http://www.cryptoholics.com/cryptoholics-ep02/

Also special thanks out there to the guys who keep on believing Cheesy There will always be FUD out there but I believe the important questions have been answered and we do have a working implementation that the average Bitcoiner can use. The fact that we now have two Zcoin clones shows that there's real value in the tech behind the project.

FYI Poramin is Thai (not Indonesian) and has been the guy doing the dev all along. The colleague mentioned is Ankit whom Poramin maintains good relations with and had helped Poramin with writing documentation and giving presentations so there's no 'work stolen'.
legendary
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This coin has real tech implemented (thats a huge plus), and also has 20% constant dev fee (thats ahuge minus). That is dangerously explosive combination - could explode in both ways, actually.

Its a pity the devs do not do real marketing campagn. No new useless 'advancements' or features are needed now, just a good 'awareness rasing'. Everyone speaks about zcash tech, and almost nobody knows of zcoin tech, which is better in some aspects.

This coin is not ready for prime time (though the web site is exemplary)...
And there is way too much negativity here for a junior alt worth $300,000.

Do people not realize that the mining algo is not a "feature"...
It's at the absolute security and functional core of the entire network and venture...
That the current CPU mining algo has always been a temporary hack...
And if MTP will take 4-5 months nothing matters except getting that hard fork right.

People here should be diversified in anon coins and maybe just come back in 6 months...
A lot can happen over time... it would not surprise me if ZEC totally implodes. 

https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Roadmap
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I have sold 5x more expensive in trade satoshi zcoin.
wow  you have more profit . I will buy it now . it's under 0.00119btc .
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I have sold 5x more expensive in trade satoshi zcoin.
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he realized he was scammed by indonesian vertcoin dev parapin who stole the work from a university colleague.


what a scam zcoin. the best scam of 2016.
Enjoy lambo paparin-poparin-ponjamin or what is your name.

I got all signs at beginning when price was 0.08 and after ONLY 20 days from launch 3 dev addresses were drained. when we asked to dev where those coins was sent the answers was "anon bounties"

Such scam.
After that a i sold all at 0.008 and most at 0.01.

Good luck bagholder.

I made a HUGE profit selling all range 0.01-0.08. maybe will buy more, but now this coins is red flag

I am sure you are lieing here. If you sold all your coins at 0.008 - 0.01 range, you wouldn't come here all the time and complain about dropping price of this coin  Grin
You probably sold some and are accumulating now. Hence are actively spreading FUD now (the same way as you actively hyped this coin at the beginning). And all this - just to mislead people and take your profits. Dirty tactics, I would say...

This coin has real tech implemented (thats a huge plus), and also has 20% constant dev fee (thats ahuge minus). That is dangerously explosive combination - could explode in both ways, actually.
Its a pity the devs do not do real marketing campagn. No new useless 'advancements' or features are needed now, just a good 'awareness rasing'. Everyone speaks about zcash tech, and almost nobody knows of zcoin tech, which is better in some aspects.
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Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin? He's favorited one of my Zcoin tweets but he won't make a public statement of support himself.

You'd think a guy $500k invested in this thing would be a bit more proactive....

he realized he was scammed by indonesian vertcoin dev parapin who stole the work from a university colleague.


what a scam zcoin. the best scam of 2016.
Enjoy lambo paparin-poparin-ponjamin or what is your name.

I got all signs at beginning when price was 0.08 and after ONLY 20 days from launch 3 dev addresses were drained. when we asked to dev where those coins was sent the answers was "anon bounties"

Such scam.
After that a i sold all at 0.008 and most at 0.01.

Good luck bagholder.

I made a HUGE profit selling all range 0.01-0.08. maybe will buy more, but now this coins is red flag
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Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin? He's favorited one of my Zcoin tweets but he won't make a public statement of support himself.

You'd think a guy $500k invested in this thing would be a bit more proactive....

he realized he was scammed by indonesian vertcoin dev parapin who stole the work from a university colleague.
sr. member
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yes, Volum is down everyday. How can zcoin increase the price in next month?

ok. the volum is down because there are not many cheap coins on market.
Pumping is comming next time

There is 200 btc worth of coins on the sell book between here and previous ATH, there is plenty of cheap coins. The problem is the lack of demand.

the blockchain it self is great and yep , we need polo for higher demand...

Im always checking the price of Zcoin in the market and as I observed
seems the price is stagnant. I dont know yet if I have to invest in this
coin. But hoping this coin will big a hit in the market.
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Everything's a bubble, idiot
Good to see the new block explorer up and running  Smiley

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/
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yes, Volum is down everyday. How can zcoin increase the price in next month?

ok. the volum is down because there are not many cheap coins on market.
Pumping is comming next time

There is 200 btc worth of coins on the sell book between here and previous ATH, there is plenty of cheap coins. The problem is the lack of demand.

the blockchain it self is great and yep , we need polo for higher demand...
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Beside an algo , website and few other technical updates, what stand are you taking to resolve adoption and marketing issues ?

Adoption issue is critical in my opinion, because even with great features, technology, and everything, if it's not adopted and accepted highly in market, it will remain losing it's usefulness, and might worth nothing in future, as people may be disappointed and keep moving off the project, so you really need to take it seriously, and act upon it, allocate decent budget for marketing, awareness, adoption, expansion on different platform.

This doesn't mean we're resting on our laurels of course and active development continues.
legendary
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yes, Volum is down everyday. How can zcoin increase the price in next month?

ok. the volum is down because there are not many cheap coins on market.
Pumping is comming next time

There is 200 btc worth of coins on the sell book between here and previous ATH, there is plenty of cheap coins. The problem is the lack of demand.
hero member
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yes, Volum is down everyday. How can zcoin increase the price in next month?

ok. the volum is down because there are not many cheap coins on market.
Pumping is comming next time
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yes, Volumn is down everyday. How can zcoin increase the price in next month?
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I really love this zcoin technique . it will be much useful for deal with anonymization of transactions in future
Zcoin and Zcash are two different platforms. For me , I like this zcoin and I will buy more cheap coins for my storage


the best thing we can do now is to buy more cheap coins as soon as possibble because that is our best chance to get big profits
sr. member
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I really love this zcoin technique . it will be much useful for deal with anonymization of transactions in future
Zcoin and Zcash are two different platforms. For me , I like this zcoin and I will buy more cheap coins for my storage


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