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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 314. (Read 663504 times)

sr. member
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we need to buy more cheap coins because the price is at the chart bottom. it will be pumped next week.
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For what it is, if you see the amount of functionality that this coin already offers even compared to other established anonymity coin projects, beyond the mining algo, the rest of the changes aren't critical to make it a coin that can be used right now. It's more of an adoption issue.

This doesn't mean we're resting on our laurels of course and active development continues.

As you correctly mentioned, the coin has a lot of advantages and a lot of tech already implemented and working. What it misses the most is marketing (including awareness raising, but not limited to that only).

At the beginning some popularity of zcoin was caused by zcash hype, but now its over and zcoin should be marketed indepentently, first of all, to underline its benefits and inherent advantages over zcash. Otherwise the general public will always think it is just another fork of zcash, and even forget it was ready before zcash even started! Tech is great, but without marketing it often worths almost nothing.

Whats your plan on marketing this coin? Anyone being hired to make the noise and start to make this bigger than its competitor zcash?  Cool
Currently, Dev has 20% coins, while the pay for marketing is almost zero.Feeling stingy.
legendary
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For what it is, if you see the amount of functionality that this coin already offers even compared to other established anonymity coin projects, beyond the mining algo, the rest of the changes aren't critical to make it a coin that can be used right now. It's more of an adoption issue.

This doesn't mean we're resting on our laurels of course and active development continues.

As you correctly mentioned, the coin has a lot of advantages and a lot of tech already implemented and working. What it misses the most is marketing (including awareness raising, but not limited to that only).

At the beginning some popularity of zcoin was caused by zcash hype, but now its over and zcoin should be marketed indepentently, first of all, to underline its benefits and inherent advantages over zcash. Otherwise the general public will always think it is just another fork of zcash, and even forget it was ready before zcash even started! Tech is great, but without marketing it often worths almost nothing.

Whats your plan on marketing this coin? Anyone being hired to make the noise and start to make this bigger than its competitor zcash?  Cool
sr. member
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Firo (FIRO)
For what it is, if you see the amount of functionality that this coin already offers even compared to other established anonymity coin projects, beyond the mining algo, the rest of the changes aren't critical to make it a coin that can be used right now. It's more of an adoption issue.

This doesn't mean we're resting on our laurels of course and active development continues.
newbie
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Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin?

Maybe he wants to grab more cheap XZC?

Within 3months price will be - let's see - maybe 1-3k satoshi.

Where did you see that? Do you have a crystal sphere? Can I rent it? Wink

It's remarkable that a lot of people are hunting for a quick return, but don't even try to invest in projects that have the basis for getting big in the future.

I think blockchains that deal with infrastructure and associated services have future. That's why I've invested in BTS, SJCX, EMC, ETH, SYS - even a  little money in fancy ICOs like WAVES and HEAT (but not too much, because I don't see them succeed).

I think blockchains that deal with anonymization of transactions have future. That's why I've invested in DASH, XMR, SDC, XZC.
They all try more or less different ways.
The one of Zerocoin is conceptually the one that's easiest to grasp, if you know crypto coin tumblers/mixes and are happy that you don't have to rely on external parties, but on a blockchain protocol. I'm not talking about the math behind the accumulator!
Things that can be understood to a certain degree create confidence whereas complicated things make hesitant.

I might be wrong, but that's my stance.
And no, I haven't bought ZEC. I appreciate the concept that was implemented in Zerocash (although I find some attributes inferior to Zerocoin), because it's complementary to Zerocoin and I like diversification, but the price is just too high.
XZC's rate is far below DASH, XMR and below SDC. That's why I continue to accumulate XZC Wink
sr. member
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The dev is changing algo to MTP within 3 months and no way for botnet earning . now it's time to buy cheap coins and get big profits in next months

Within 3months price will be - let's see - maybe 1-3k satoshi. Then pump to 5-10k at most.
Now is not nearly good time to buy.
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Who cares about MTP?At present, first support GPU mining(Suggest).Prices are continuing to dump.To appropriate learning opponents.Community needs to be active.
hero member
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wonder why price is still dropping since weeks....

btc pump - zcoin dump
btc dump - zcoin dump
zcoin coinpayment add - zcoin dump
zcoin website - zcoin dump
btc pump - zcoin dump

seems investors don't like current updates. any update coming? i mean, code update, not site,interview and shittie stuff. real code improvement.
we can't wait 3 month for an algo change. or yes, but price will always go down even more
maybe cuz very high pressure from miners which use botnets? i've mined with 64 cores and had only 2.4 coins from 7200 per 24h.

Exactly! That's why they can't wait 3-4 months to change algo.
botnets are killing this coin, togheter with no buy support.

The dev is changing algo to MTP within 3 months and no way for botnet earning . now it's time to buy cheap coins and get big profits in next months
hero member
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Merit: 500
wonder why price is still dropping since weeks....

btc pump - zcoin dump
btc dump - zcoin dump
zcoin coinpayment add - zcoin dump
zcoin website - zcoin dump
btc pump - zcoin dump

seems investors don't like current updates. any update coming? i mean, code update, not site,interview and shittie stuff. real code improvement.
we can't wait 3 month for an algo change. or yes, but price will always go down even more
maybe cuz very high pressure from miners which use botnets? i've mined with 64 cores and had only 2.4 coins from 7200 per 24h.

Exactly! That's why they can't wait 3-4 months to change algo.
botnets are killing this coin, togheter with no buy support.
legendary
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wonder why price is still dropping since weeks....

btc pump - zcoin dump
btc dump - zcoin dump
zcoin coinpayment add - zcoin dump
zcoin website - zcoin dump
btc pump - zcoin dump

seems investors don't like current updates. any update coming? i mean, code update, not site,interview and shittie stuff. real code improvement.
we can't wait 3 month for an algo change. or yes, but price will always go down even more
maybe cuz very high pressure from miners which use botnets? i've mined with 64 cores and had only 2.4 coins from 7200 per 24h.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
wonder why price is still dropping since weeks....

btc pump - zcoin dump
btc dump - zcoin dump
zcoin coinpayment add - zcoin dump
zcoin website - zcoin dump
btc pump - zcoin dump

seems investors don't like current updates. any update coming? i mean, code update, not site,interview and shittie stuff. real code improvement.
we can't wait 3 month for an algo change. or yes, but price will always go down even more
hero member
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Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin? He's favorited one of my Zcoin tweets but he won't make a public statement of support himself.

You'd think a guy $500k invested in this thing would be a bit more proactive....



Source on the 500k thing?
legendary
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Why won't Roger Ver even fire off a simple tweet about Zcoin? He's favorited one of my Zcoin tweets but he won't make a public statement of support himself.

You'd think a guy $500k invested in this thing would be a bit more proactive....

sr. member
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I love this design and have a vote for polo already Grin

sr. member
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I like the new site and I voted on Poloniex Smiley
hero member
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Of course we are working on Poloniex being added but we won't make any promises although we remain hopeful. What would help is filling in their coin request form as well Cheesy

https://poloniex.com/coinRequest

A strong community support would go a long way towards getting Zcoin added to Polo though we're working on building awareness of what Zcoin is and stands for as there's a lot of misunderstanding of what Zcoin is. There are still people that think Zcoin is a Zcash fork which has been addressed many times (including in the OP).


I already filled the coin request form on polo Smiley
hero member
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dump,dump,dump.
Zcrash
sr. member
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Firo (FIRO)
Of course we are working on Poloniex being added but we won't make any promises although we remain hopeful. What would help is filling in their coin request form as well Cheesy

https://poloniex.com/coinRequest

A strong community support would go a long way towards getting Zcoin added to Polo though we're working on building awareness of what Zcoin is and stands for as there's a lot of misunderstanding of what Zcoin is. There are still people that think Zcoin is a Zcash fork which has been addressed many times (including in the OP).

We are the first working cryptocurrency using zero knowledge proofs that have WORKING private transactions that is ready to be used today unlike Zcash that was supposedly being worked on for years and had extensive testing and yet still manages to not have its most important feature working. Even when Zcash does get its private transactions working, Zcoin retains many advantages over Zcash

  • Parameter generation does not require trust of developers.
  • Private transactions with less computational requirements
  • A much more well understood cryptographic implementation
  • Much more easily integrated to existing Bitcoin merchants

And we have a working QT GUI.

So if you base it off the fundamentals of the coin and look past the hype, Zcoin has achieved a lot and will continue to break new ground when MTP is implemented despite the smaller team and budget.

We are committed to working on the project for the long term and active development continues every single day. If anyone is interested in joining us and helping out with the dev and marketing (with proper experience), bounties are available which would accelerate growth a lot more in the long term. There's a lot of work to be done and we welcome help to make a vision of a truly anonymous coin a reality.

The first step is being done with the new much nicer website launch and the content is being updated. Instructional videos will follow soon along with a list of merchants who have agreed to accept Zcoin.

To us, it's not so much the development of the coin now (which still continues as fast as is possible with our devs) but more on the marketing and building awareness and making it accessible to the public.

sr. member
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I think this coin has more chances to be listed on polo in next month.
I will buy more cheap coins now and get more profits on polo later
newbie
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Plz  developer do u have any plan of adding it on poloniex
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