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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 80. (Read 663349 times)

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Around 3200 kh/s per card, so a total of 12800 kh/s. Yes, i'm using DJM34 for Lyra2z.
Mining pool hub reported on average around 6 mh/s, and mint pond reported around 12 mh/s.

3200KH/s with what settings on cards?

Also did you notice that profitability is better on MPH or Mintpond, I know that is hard to say if you don't have 2 same rigs mining at the same time on 2 different pools but still Smiley
newbie
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Is there are a reason why profatibility calculators are showing much greater profatibility than it actually is? I tried mining on my 4x1080ti rig and got 50-60% lower results than calculated.
I mined on mintpond and the official ZCoin pool.


How much hashrate do you get from 1080ti on your machine and how much does pool shows you?
Also are u using DJM34 for Lyra2z or something else?

Around 3200 kh/s per card, so a total of 12800 kh/s. Yes, i'm using DJM34 for Lyra2z.
Mining pool hub reported on average around 6 mh/s, and mint pond reported around 12 mh/s.
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The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools. We knew this because when we were trying to notify our pools to hard fork, we couldn't find these guys.

Btw, we are aware of some of the concerns of miners that our hashrate is being dominated by botnets. Ocminer from Suprnova mentioned that previously there were some schools etc who complained to him and he identified them from many small hashrates. He does have a point.

I spoke to miningpoolhub on this and he mentioned that this could be CPU miners as well and he brought up that on other coins, there are single entities with much bigger hashing power as well.

So, both sides have valid points.

Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.

We previously had some concerns of pool software as none of our coders are experienced pool coders but we believe that even if we have to launch with solo mining to start with and then organizing a bounty for an open sourced nomp or yiimp pool for MTP, this would be acceptable. A period of solo mining isn't bad and is true decentralization.






As I don't understand too much from the tech perspective, will MTP solve the botnet mining issue once and for all or are there also problems that might come up some time in the future?

As I understood MTP requires large amount of RAM ~10 Gb. Miner activity will affect behavior of average computer much more and thus will reveal itself. As expected botnet performance will be reduced.


So every mining rig would need 12 GB or so of RAM to be able to continue mining ZCoin? That's a hefty additional expense, particularly with DDR4 systems.

That means it does not only successfully prevent botnets from mining, but also negatively impacts all the average miners who have good intentions?
legendary
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How does this coin compare to Zero or BTCZ or even Hush. Seems Zero, BTCZ and Hush are directs competitor with active devs with very small market cap that soon going to go up. It's not fud I'm just wondering. Also Zero or BTCZ or even Hush can be mining using GPU.

They seem active. The project seems to be moving along towards the MTP algorithm which uses some memory to solve. XZC was up over half a billion market cap at the beginning of the year and was ranking higher than it is now in terms of market cap. Now its 70-75th mostly.

Devs. seem active and focused on making sure privacy and usability are at the forefront of the project.  In terms of trading its on the big exchanges so that is helpful.

BTCZ value turned to crap after trading was closed down right after the fork off ZCL and BTC and now only traded on KuCoin which severely limited its upside. 

One of the main devs is from Thailand. XZC has quite an active community here. They hold public forums with visitors from other countries, etc. Both main exchanges here are behind it and pay ZNode rewards if you keep your coins on the exchanges.
newbie
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How does this coin compare to Zero or BTCZ or even Hush. Seems Zero, BTCZ and Hush are directs competitor with active devs with very small market cap that soon going to go up. It's not fud I'm just wondering. Also Zero or BTCZ or even Hush can be mining using GPU.

They seem active. The project seems to be moving along towards the MTP algorithm which uses some memory to solve. XZC was up over half a billion market cap at the beginning of the year and was ranking higher than it is now in terms of market cap. Now its 70-75th mostly.

Devs. seem active and focused on making sure privacy and usability are at the forefront of the project.  In terms of trading its on the big exchanges so that is helpful.

BTCZ value turned to crap after trading was closed down right after the fork off ZCL and BTC and now only traded on KuCoin which severely limited its upside. 
sr. member
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How does this coin compare to Zero or BTCZ or even Hush. Seems Zero, BTCZ and Hush are directs competitor with active devs with very small market cap that soon going to go up. It's not fud I'm just wondering. Also Zero or BTCZ or even Hush can be mining using GPU.
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By the way, zcoin lyra2z mining became quite profitable for CPU mining, was getting  around 1 USD on an i7 -7700k
Switched my CPU miners from cryptonight to lyra2z for a while
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The Luck on MPH has just skyrocketed with no real correlation to the increased or decreased difficulty (total network hashrate.)

We will see what happens.


Last 4 weeks 113%
Last 7 days 122%
Last 24 hours 135%

It just keeps rising. Currently, it only shows 215Gh/s so it is not even that high.
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Is there are a reason why profatibility calculators are showing much greater profatibility than it actually is? I tried mining on my 4x1080ti rig and got 50-60% lower results than calculated.
I mined on mintpond and the official ZCoin pool.


How much hashrate do you get from 1080ti on your machine and how much does pool shows you?
Also are u using DJM34 for Lyra2z or something else?
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Miners should spread Zcoin hashrates out to different pools in order to avoid 51% replay attacks due to dominant hashrates on one large pool
We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools.

I am waiting for new products in the second quarter of 2018 (the end of the second quarter as you said). No need to be hurry to release products soon, because those products should be tested carefully before releasing to find and fix all bugs.
Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.
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Is there are a reason why profatibility calculators are showing much greater profatibility than it actually is? I tried mining on my 4x1080ti rig and got 50-60% lower results than calculated.
I mined on mintpond and the official ZCoin pool.

I was having a slower hashrate too, I found out I needed a different release of ccminer that was optimized for the Lyra2z algo... Cant find from where I got the info but Im pretty sure the release Im using specialy for Zcoin is the one made by djm34 on Github (ccminer with Lyra2z algo).
newbie
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Is there are a reason why profatibility calculators are showing much greater profatibility than it actually is? I tried mining on my 4x1080ti rig and got 50-60% lower results than calculated.
I mined on mintpond and the official ZCoin pool.
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Or maybe not if we can still use virtual memory like we did before?

If not then be prepared to invest some more money in additional bank of 8GB DDR4 memory, around 90USD per rig.

sr. member
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We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools. We knew this because when we were trying to notify our pools to hard fork, we couldn't find these guys.

Btw, we are aware of some of the concerns of miners that our hashrate is being dominated by botnets. Ocminer from Suprnova mentioned that previously there were some schools etc who complained to him and he identified them from many small hashrates. He does have a point.

I spoke to miningpoolhub on this and he mentioned that this could be CPU miners as well and he brought up that on other coins, there are single entities with much bigger hashing power as well.

So, both sides have valid points.

Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.

We previously had some concerns of pool software as none of our coders are experienced pool coders but we believe that even if we have to launch with solo mining to start with and then organizing a bounty for an open sourced nomp or yiimp pool for MTP, this would be acceptable. A period of solo mining isn't bad and is true decentralization.






As I don't understand too much from the tech perspective, will MTP solve the botnet mining issue once and for all or are there also problems that might come up some time in the future?

As I understood MTP requires large amount of RAM ~10 Gb. Miner activity will affect behavior of average computer much more and thus will reveal itself. As expected botnet performance will be reduced.


So every mining rig would need 12 GB or so of RAM to be able to continue mining ZCoin? That's a hefty additional expense, particularly with DDR4 systems.
newbie
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We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools. We knew this because when we were trying to notify our pools to hard fork, we couldn't find these guys.

Btw, we are aware of some of the concerns of miners that our hashrate is being dominated by botnets. Ocminer from Suprnova mentioned that previously there were some schools etc who complained to him and he identified them from many small hashrates. He does have a point.

I spoke to miningpoolhub on this and he mentioned that this could be CPU miners as well and he brought up that on other coins, there are single entities with much bigger hashing power as well.

So, both sides have valid points.

Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.

We previously had some concerns of pool software as none of our coders are experienced pool coders but we believe that even if we have to launch with solo mining to start with and then organizing a bounty for an open sourced nomp or yiimp pool for MTP, this would be acceptable. A period of solo mining isn't bad and is true decentralization.





As I don't understand too much from the tech perspective, will MTP solve the botnet mining issue once and for all or are there also problems that might come up some time in the future?

As I understood MTP requires large amount of RAM ~10 Gb. Miner activity will affect behavior of average computer much more and thus will reveal itself. As expected botnet performance will be reduced.
full member
Activity: 302
Merit: 100
The Standard Protocol - Solving Inflation
We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools. We knew this because when we were trying to notify our pools to hard fork, we couldn't find these guys.

Btw, we are aware of some of the concerns of miners that our hashrate is being dominated by botnets. Ocminer from Suprnova mentioned that previously there were some schools etc who complained to him and he identified them from many small hashrates. He does have a point.

I spoke to miningpoolhub on this and he mentioned that this could be CPU miners as well and he brought up that on other coins, there are single entities with much bigger hashing power as well.

So, both sides have valid points.

Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.

We previously had some concerns of pool software as none of our coders are experienced pool coders but we believe that even if we have to launch with solo mining to start with and then organizing a bounty for an open sourced nomp or yiimp pool for MTP, this would be acceptable. A period of solo mining isn't bad and is true decentralization.





As I don't understand too much from the tech perspective, will MTP solve the botnet mining issue once and for all or are there also problems that might come up some time in the future?
sr. member
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Firo (FIRO)
Will zcoin be supported on the ledger nano hardware wallet in the near future?

A lack of mobile wallet is also worrying, I am using coinomi as the only wallet now

A mobile wallet based off Breadwallet is underway.

The ledger nano hardware we actually had it working via sideload but because of their firmware update this broke it. See here (https://github.com/zcoinofficial/blue-app-btc)

We are still seeking official support but during the last crypto run up, people were throwing insane amounts of money to get Ledger support and their integration team was totally packed for several months. During this more quiet period, they are more responsive so we are hopeful.
sr. member
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Firo (FIRO)
We are aware of about 20-30% hashrate on some unaccounted pools. We knew this because when we were trying to notify our pools to hard fork, we couldn't find these guys.

Btw, we are aware of some of the concerns of miners that our hashrate is being dominated by botnets. Ocminer from Suprnova mentioned that previously there were some schools etc who complained to him and he identified them from many small hashrates. He does have a point.

I spoke to miningpoolhub on this and he mentioned that this could be CPU miners as well and he brought up that on other coins, there are single entities with much bigger hashing power as well.

So, both sides have valid points.

Regardless of this, MTP is now an absolute priority and coding is well underway. We will post updates as soon as they are available and a more accurate timeframe can be estimated but tentatively should be by the end of Q2 2018 and hence we won't be doing a another transition algorithm since it's not that far off.

We previously had some concerns of pool software as none of our coders are experienced pool coders but we believe that even if we have to launch with solo mining to start with and then organizing a bounty for an open sourced nomp or yiimp pool for MTP, this would be acceptable. A period of solo mining isn't bad and is true decentralization.



newbie
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Difficulty has jumped with 33% in a day. Something is wrong here!

Possibly autoswitch miner software affects.


Probably, but how do you explain the missing hashrate people are claiming in the last post?

Maybe some private pools did not counted.
legendary
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Difficulty has jumped with 33% in a day. Something is wrong here!

Possibly autoswitch miner software affects.


Probably, but how do you explain the missing hashrate people are claiming in the last post?
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