Topic: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - NGW - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - page 31. (Read 271640 times)

Darkcoin also had about 15-20BTC volume before going crazy. Price rising causes explosion in trade volume.
When price stays relatively calm and non-volatile, trade volume is very low, for every coin, also Bitcoin and Litecoin.

I bet if price goes to 1000 sat from 400 sat, you will have volume more than 100BTC.

That's how it is.

Merchant adoption is a logical next step, but not a imminent one. It will come later.

At the moment a multipool, transaction anonimizer and website/forum/marketing tools improvement are much more important.
Regarding the multipool - you should seek to make benefit from the coming Scrypt ASICS, that's a lot of power and that's a must.
Multipool <-> Scrypt ASICs. Be the first to wield that power.

Just my 2 satoshis.

Yeah most of X11 coins will probably look into implementing DarkSend like feature .... as soon as Evan finishes it. But that is capitalising on on someone else hard work.

The devs should take Evan as an example and not just copy shit that he comes up with, and that is what all X11 coins so far do really.... sad

Any way Joerii, you're just dodging answering question. You claim you are transparent yet hold "big projects" behind closed doors. You should read "Lean Startup" to see that attempting to release a perfect product is a bad strategy.

I don't believe HIRO will make the top 20 coins, not in a week, not in a month, not ever. All this coin has is smoke and mirrors and a lot of buzz words thrown around.

you should look how Evan of Darkcoin is handling community interactions, you'll be mind blown. Find some time to sit through the 900 pages of DRK [ANN] thread and you will see how development of the coin should be handled.

Yes you are the moron. If you read my posts, you will see that i don t care about the price. This is just relevant to watch how goes adoption with HIRO. Watch the price and you will have a very good idea how it goes.

Second, if again you had read my posts, you would know that i didn t have lost money in HIRO. As a new comer, i did have a lot at the beginning. I stop buying when it had been pumped and a LOT of miners did go into. I sure have made the good decisions.

So, you are the moron, i have no loss, i can take a risk and i have done the right things at the right moment seeing as it went after that. But i have lost a lot of time.


I can see that none of my questions were answer, i wish people luck with this coin.
The main point of HIRO was X11 (more efficiency, less heat, summer coin etc). With all the FUD out there on X11 ( actually not ASICS resistant and FPGA already mining it) and Hirocoin dev team not adressing these problems, i dont think there is much futur in this angle.
Furtherm more, there are more and more X11 multipool, meaning that more and more people will mine HIRO and dump it, buying POS coin which have not selling pressure like POW coins.

I think it s time for me to move on. After a lot of reflexion, the thing that i didn t get at the time is that the team wasn t professionnal. They are obviously good people and sometime it s hard when people attack you on all front. But you have to keep being professional.

I sincerely hope that you will prove me wrong. Meanwhile, i will move my coins in a coin where there is a goal and transparency for the people who invest in it. Well, expect some sell pressure, it will take a few days to sell my coins giving the 24H volume on Mintpal ( ~ 2BTC/day )

edit: how do you want to have merchant adoption with a volume of 2 BTC/day?

Good to see some ideas and community building!

Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I'll reply in detail later.
We are aware our site needs a facelift, in fact a web dev is working on creating something much, much nicer.

I never considered the forum, thanks for that. You say a different font would be nice ? Which one do you think would be an improvement ?
I always love black with light grey letters, but remember it also has to suit the friendly and open image of Hirocoin.

Hello dear devs,

as far as you pursue your goals with the coin, you have my support.
Anyway, you want to make sure you pursue the right goals.

I think in the midterm the following 4 features would be really beneficial to HIROcoin:

1. multipool - HIRO has a whopping 672 million coins! That's a lot. I see your dedication to staying with original features of the coin and not decrease coin supply. But that's still a lot of coins, even for 3.2 years. So, we have to make the miners become holders of something valuable instead of becoming "dumping machines". Because mining rigs cost a bunch and people want to make ROI, pay electricity and then some. They will dump, IF they don't see long-term value. So, multipool is A MUST. Mining more will be buying HIRO more, thus price increase, thus more mining, thus more buying, hence higher price, more mining, more buying...see BlackCoin e.g.

2. implementing a DarkSend-like anonymizing transaction technology, used in conjunction with but separately from (can be switched off) the HIROcoin wallet. That is what increased the price of DarkCoin. One of the main reasons Bitcoin and its followers exist, is that they offer anonymous transactions, independent from banks, government and state structures. Later we found out it is NOT completely anonymous. There are very many people who insist on their privacy (not only from illegal channels) and this is a huge valuable feature of a coin offering this one. Good one for Darkcoin, let's see if we can implement something similar, and even better, that's right - an IMPROVEMENT over DarkSend - here by HIROcoin.

3. website. Your website is NOT bad. But not that good either. I have seen the websites of most coins. Too much text in your website, too little visuals. People like visuals. Videos and audios, color fonts and nice pics depicting features and ideas attract attention and make you look valuable in people's eyes.
All marketing materials should be impecable and stand out from all other coins. For the newcomer that talks: VALUE.
See 2 websites of other coins:
I. http://einsteinium.org/ - very nicely touched, great web design, made me want to invest in EMC2. It talked to me: The website is great, idea is great, the coin must also be great.

II. http://darkcoin.io/ - this website absolutely rocks! I remember the days it was just published, it was plain and unattractive. Now it has all there stuck tidily in different tabs, not all the info spitten in one place on the main page. It has a very nice forum with a few thousand posts. That's how you build a community. That's how you build value. Not in a bitcointalk thread.

III. https://alpha-t.net/ - that's not a coin, but an ASIC company. At first the site was a junk and there was not a forum. But behold - now the forum is very lively and
Something else - do you see how the main page resembles that of DarkCoin? Or vice versa. Anyway, it looks nice, it looks solid. It whispers: VALUE.

P.S. I know HIROcoin.org also has a forum but it is somehow unattractive and plain. I don't like reading there because of the font choice and visuals. Make it tougher-looking, serious and solid, please.

I like that you changed the logo of HIROcoin replacing that godzilla facia. It was simply not professional. And to grow the coin, people have to think of the coin as professional as possible.

Please also ask all mining pools and coinmarketcap and whatever other coin-related services to use the new logo which is GREAT - you have to change to the new image completely, everywhere. Godzilla is gone, now is the time for the new reborn HIROcoin.


4. additional services - payment processor, services accepting HIROcoin, services storing HIROcoin in return for some interest, etc.

I can contribut with points 1 and 3.


Just my 2 satoshis.

Best

How the mortgage, not understand

Hopefully they implement a proper coin and not another clone.

I love how transparent and active the Hiro team members are.
I wish more coins were like Hiro.

Im the moron? Please. I understand the risks. You win on a few and lose on many more. Thats the way it works. Until you accept that fact your going to be driving yourself crazy.

If your going on what someone "promises" you are taking a heck of a risk. I advise you to never invest seeing how thinned skinned you are at losing money, and to be honest with you, cryptos are not for you.

actually. there is almost no room for dumping.

I can understand the frustrations coming from investors. An altcoin is like running a business. It needs investors to drive the value/price of the coin.

I myself have invested in this coin. I bought when it was 3000 SAT, bought more at 2000 SAT and more at 1500 SAT and even more at 800 SAT. I would love to buy more but I am running low on fiat.

It is indeed heartbreaking to see your "investment" loose value. I had the choice between DRK and HIRO then. I made the my decision at that time and that was my decision to make. The result of that decision and whatever result comes forward is MY Responsibility. Not the devs. I chose HIRO and I should be responsible for that decision.

I am not dumping my coins.

-=BELIEVE=-

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FAREWELL HIRO COIN   

Hi everyone.

First of all, I want to repeat some earlier statements because I think not everyone who has been posting in the last few pages is aware of them ;

- Hiro has handed of leadership of this coin's dev community to me about a month ago. He hasn't posted since then. He has been coding full time, at his dayjob and for Hirocoin in his free time. n00bsysop is the leader of the dev department who organizes and directs development efforts.

- We have a long term goal and short term objectives for Hirocoin on our forum. We NEVER promise vaporware, instead we openly brainstorm about future projects.

- We do not hold ourselves responsible for the market price of HIRO. Instead, we aim to reach above mentioned goals and objectives

- We won’t break the rules we set for ourselves ; no unethical adjustments to the coin for short term gains. I also talked about that in the latest newsletter

- Pump and dump ? We never pumped anything. This is in the communication guidelines I wrote for our team that every team member is REQUIRED to sign.

The recent posts about Hirocoin devs running away and not supporting Hirocoin anymore  is pure FUD. It’s either a misunderstanding of Hiro’s lack of posts or worse, willful FUD spreading.

We ARE listening to the community. The problem is ; we don’t get much from you guys, except vague ideas like “be more visible” “do stuff that makes miners come to this coin” “grow the community”  or things we strongly disagree with ( like changing the coin supply ).
Most things  that the unhappy posters are demanding now are unfair and unrealistic.
If you tell us we should attract miners to this coin, maybe you could be more specific, for example. How ?

I’ve contacted literally more than 60 people who were positive in this thread over the last few weeks, and about half of them said they would love to help. I have heard back from NONE of these people after that.

Why ? Because people have a short attention span in this scene. We underestimated how small the window of opportunity is to use the initial buzz. There are new coin launches daily and "new is always better".

The sad truth in the altcoin world is this : when a coin is appreciating in value, everyone loves you and wants to help. When price does not climb, people get impatient and start making demands, and when it falls for a while people panic and get angry.
Then they rationalize this anger by making all kinds of accusations. Complaining and spewing vitriol is so much easier than helping.

And all the time, we have simply done what we set out to do. And will continue to do so. We’re not abandoning Hirocoin and keep improving and building. We’ll post information on new developments when they are close to being finished, like we did with the Multipool. Notice how this is in line with the “no pump” rule.

I would like to ask for a positive contribution instead of all these “Im pissed off because I’m not making money” posts.
If you want to see Hirocoin succeed,  take some time and effort to contribute something useful .
If you hold Hirocoins and are angry and disappointed, perhaps it’s better if you don’t post at the moment. Venting anger and flaming people who do all the work does nobody any good. You are hurting your investment.  Ask yourself : what is my goal ?

For those who do still support us and continue to trust in our intentions to create an awesome coin, thank you so much ! We are real people and your comments make us feel appreciated.

I think this is a fantastic idea. If people can use HIRO to purchase services or goods, that is an instant incentive to own them. If you need any help with this, we've got a broad range of experience within the team, so feel more than free to contact us if you'd like any input!

What I actually would really help is a market place to get things started.

I've been trying to look for secure platforms to use.

Even if the marketplace is not overtly active, we are pushing utilization of Hirocoin nonetheless.

What are you talking about? Say No to drugs! The only moron here is you.

Nobody is whining about the price. I m whining because the dev keep talking about big things coming and hard work, i m starting to have big doubts about that.
I cannot just switch coins as you are saying because i m here since the beginning, it s kind of hard for me to just say, "ok fuck off, i m out".

Anybody wanting to invest in a coin has the right to know in what he is investing. And i have to say, that is prety obscure by now.