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Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

What sort of CPU processing overhead does the miner use?

Some simple hashing, very little overhead. One core of a modern CPU can process 100MB/s+.

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

Does it climb exponentially based on the amount of TB it's scanning?

Linearly

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

Would SSDs improve the speed at which coins are mined?

Regular HDD's are fast enough - and way cheaper per TB.

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

Is there a limitation on the size a processor can mine based on its processing power? Someone mentioned that if plotting doesn't complete fast enough, it's essentially lost?

A modern I7 can easily process 100TB+ in time. There is, but its high.

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

How is data loss coped with? What happens when you lose information on one drive?

You can just plot the same range again. Its all deterministic.

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

People were mentioning external hard drives, but I assume USB would turn into a bottleneck if it's constantly being scanned?

USB 2.0 is kind of a bottleneck, but still usable. USB 3.0 is perfect for BURST.

Quote from: bensam123 on September 05, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

I also understand this coin could be abused from a cloud mining standpoint, but people have also been mentioning it has to scan the entire drive (which would use a crap ton of bandwidth, especially if you're talking TBs on the cloud)?

It needs to scan 1/4096th of the data each block. Thats 256MB/TB

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Thank you for your reply. And 1 more thing. I saw that 4TB plotting requires 5 days? Meaning to say I must never shut down my computer in between? After plotting then I can restart it and mine without having to ever plot back?

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Quote from: victorteoh on September 05, 2014, 04:15:47 AM

1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?

Quote from: victorteoh on September 05, 2014, 03:49:19 AM

For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum? 0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition

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So curiously, what sort of technical limitations are there to this? I saw the calculator, but how does each phase work? What sort of CPU processing overhead does the miner use? Does it climb exponentially based on the amount of TB it's scanning? Would SSDs improve the speed at which coins are mined? Is there a limitation on the size a processor can mine based on its processing power? Someone mentioned that if plotting doesn't complete fast enough, it's essentially lost?

How is data loss coped with? What happens when you lose information on one drive?

People were mentioning external hard drives, but I assume USB would turn into a bottleneck if it's constantly being scanned?

I also understand this coin could be abused from a cloud mining standpoint, but people have also been mentioning it has to scan the entire drive (which would use a crap ton of bandwidth, especially if you're talking TBs on the cloud)?

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Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 04:02:20 AM

i think it might be a good idea to not develop any GPU plotter because if plotting become too fast difficulties will be very high very quickly. Right now CPU plotting put a limit how much people can plot. Even if someone buy 1 Petabyte of HDD they will need many days to plot it whereas if GPU is available people will plot Petabyte in a day and distribution of coin will be left to only a few people who build petabyte farm. People will soon not able to mine using TB if GPU plotting is available

I agree. As much as it pains me to have to wait 5 days for a 4TB plot - it must be this way. It is the perfect barrier to entry and the only way to prevent the scumbag from sucking up all the coins leaving nothing for the average joe.

The distribution is pretty good when you think about it - not many people have more than say 8 TB on this - most are probably between 200 and 3TB. We want as many people as possible to get a nice slice of the pie, create happy customers, attract new investors and new ideas, add value to the coin.

Every coin that gets abused and dumped by mega miners end up on a consistent slope downhill Even the mighty Litecoin is a shadow of its former self.

Keep it niche - keep it profitable.

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Quote from: fanepatent on September 05, 2014, 04:18:11 AM

Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 04:17:13 AM

Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?

The file name doesn't matter. But you might want to rename it so you know how many nonces it has

Another question.

If i have 10 plot , when i mine at pool , it will submit 10 plot shares or it will only submit 1 best share out of the 10 plot ?

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Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 04:17:13 AM

Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?

The file name doesn't matter. But you might want to rename it so you know how many nonces it has

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Quote from: victorteoh on September 05, 2014, 04:15:47 AM

1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?

Quote from: victorteoh on September 05, 2014, 03:49:19 AM

For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum? 0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition

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Question.

If i set out to plot 800000 (200 gb) and my file name is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_800000_1000 but i stop at 400000 (100 gb) should i rename my file to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx_0_400000_1000 or it doesn't matter ?

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Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 04:02:20 AM

i think it might be a good idea to not develop any GPU plotter because if plotting become too fast difficulties will be very high very quickly. Right now CPU plotting put a limit how much people can plot. Even if someone buy 1 Petabyte of HDD they will need many days to plot it whereas if GPU is available people will plot Petabyte in a day and distribution of coin will be left to only a few people who build petabyte farm. People will soon not able to mine using TB if GPU plotting is available

Its not that simple. You have to take in consideration writing speeds also. They will be able to speed up nonce generating, but after a stagger is generated it has to be written to HDD.
Overall it will be faster, but not that faster.
IMO you might be able to doble the nonces/sec you get with the CPU.
But it won't be that dramatic.

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1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?

Quote from: victorteoh on September 05, 2014, 03:49:19 AM

For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum? 0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

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More difficulty=Less coin mined=More miners=More value.
The big player has to come. We still in "how to mine" phase. Wink

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i think it might be a good idea to not develop any GPU plotter because if plotting become too fast difficulties will be very high very quickly. Right now CPU plotting put a limit how much people can plot. Even if someone buy 1 Petabyte of HDD they will need many days to plot it whereas if GPU is available people will plot Petabyte in a day and distribution of coin will be left to only a few people who build petabyte farm. People will soon not able to mine using TB if GPU plotting is available

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Quote from: cryptoknight84 on September 05, 2014, 03:59:02 AM

Any news on Bittrex listing ??
Would like to get some BURST, but can't trust C-Cex with my BTC.

C-cex is quite good.
But i can understand. Just some patience and burst will be added to bittrex.
Relax and enjoy this new amazing coin. Wink

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Quote from: cryptoknight84 on September 05, 2014, 03:59:02 AM

Any news on Bittrex listing ??
Would like to get some BURST, but can't trust C-Cex with my BTC.

C-Cex is ok, just not a large exchange. I buy and sell there with no issues yet.

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Any news on Bittrex listing ??
Would like to get some BURST, but can't trust C-Cex with my BTC.

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For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum? 0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

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Quote from: taaku on September 05, 2014, 03:38:50 AM

how many coins do i get for 1 TB per day???

~1000-1500 BURST (mining in pool)

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Quote from: alphateam on September 05, 2014, 03:46:23 AM

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Question.

If i set to plot a single 500 gb file but i have to switch off my computer and stop plotting @ 250 gb. What's the best way to stop plotting before it complete 500 gb ? Am i able to resume plotting ? Is there such thing as corrupted plot if i close the plotting suddenly ?

You can still use the partial plot. It will cause an error "error reading file", but it will work.

There is no resume, just start another one with a higher starting nonce.

So i can close the plot bat anytime and suddenly without any problem ? I can still mine with whatever is left on the plotted file ?

You can. Just make sure your plots don't overlap.

Thank you. That make sense.

Good to know, i really think we need to restart for beginning, so sorry for my bad answer

If need to restart everybody will be doing 10 - 50 gb plot i think because 1 huge plot is too much risk

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Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 03:33:54 AM

Quote from: dcct on September 05, 2014, 03:33:04 AM

Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 03:29:48 AM

Quote from: dcct on September 05, 2014, 03:26:52 AM

Quote from: yellowduck2 on September 05, 2014, 03:18:40 AM

Question.

If i set to plot a single 500 gb file but i have to switch off my computer and stop plotting @ 250 gb. What's the best way to stop plotting before it complete 500 gb ? Am i able to resume plotting ? Is there such thing as corrupted plot if i close the plotting suddenly ?

You can still use the partial plot. It will cause an error "error reading file", but it will work.

There is no resume, just start another one with a higher starting nonce.

So i can close the plot bat anytime and suddenly without any problem ? I can still mine with whatever is left on the plotted file ?

You can. Just make sure your plots don't overlap.

Thank you. That make sense.

Good to know, i really think we need to restart for beginning, so sorry for my bad answer

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