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paduser

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 12:49:48 PM

We need more hashpower to protect the coin ?
I've put something up for sale here before I go to ebay in a week or two;

http://burstcoin.info/market/

32TB Hardware Raid,
price in Burst translates to ~660$ (580€)
including plotting to your specs.

Many of those available, but I can only plot 1 or 2 a week.

If the coin has more value it would automatically increase the hashpower.

vaxman

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We need more hashpower to protect the coin ?
I've put something up for sale here before I go to ebay in a week or two;

http://burstcoin.info/market/

32TB Hardware Raid,
price in Burst translates to ~660$ (580€)
including plotting to your specs.

Many of those available, but I can only plot 1 or 2 a week.

Systems are most likely 5 years old, disks about 2 years.
19" 3RU
2 GiB RAM cache
2x 4GBit/s Fibrechannel host ports
HBAs available for PCIe or PCI-X (works in PCI-slot, when there is enough clearance for the card)

Questions ? -> send PM

12gaFacelift

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Quote from: carboncredit on September 13, 2015, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: 12gaFacelift on September 12, 2015, 09:05:50 AM

Sad thing to see that pool offline: http://cryptomining.farm/

very sorry, i'm on holiday
it' online now
Cry

ok ok im moving again since i was on your pool first but i will take the test on the other pool and add mining for them each week.

crowetic

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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org

I don't know why people seem to want to make me talk with extra large letters to get my point across... nor the fact certain people seem inconsolably dense... BUT...

REGARDLESS OF MY FEELINGS ON BITLADEN, I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND IN FACT BITLADEN HIMSELF IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION, THAT I WILL NEVER MALICIOUSLY ATTACK THE BURST NETWORK WITH ANYTHING THAT I OWN OR AM IN CONTROL OF.

Now, does this clear everything up for everyone?

We're in talks that are actually very constructive, as opposed to sitting here TRYING to start sqabbles, after I implicitly asked you (yes, you boba...) if we could just quit with the incessant squabbling over nonsense.

Now, are you going to continue to publicly bash my pool without reason? Or are you going to be an adult and quit the nonsense?

Seriously, I don't get acting like a child because I've had a larger pool for a longer period of time.

You know WHY? Because I've been a trusted 'leader' in this coin for a VERY long time, and I've been a miner since DAY ONE. I have and always will support the coin, once again I say... REGARDLESS OF MY PERSONAL FEELINGS OF ANYONE, INCLUDING BITLADEN.

Now, was this large enough for you to see?

bitladen

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Quote from: wmikrut on September 13, 2015, 12:29:25 PM

Well, I have been at this for a LONG time... and I am definitely a holder.
Why?

The thing is, you can't just hold, you have to pump, in order to back up your holding strategy.

Quote from: wmikrut on September 13, 2015, 12:29:25 PM

Most times when a coin is released it looks great on paper and function, but a lack of supporting service causes the hold.
For example, I am holding a lot of Burst. I am still hoping a 'cryptothrift' opens up where I can trade for goods/services directly with Burst.

Even if it does, the prices will reflect the risk of dealing with burst, burst is far too unstable, and it's only going down. The store has to find a way to dump real quick. 6 confirmations until you get it to polo may put you at risk, if you would accept the coin at the top buy value. You can hold a stash of burst on polo, but then that's also a risk.

Quote from: wmikrut on September 13, 2015, 12:29:25 PM

Currently I hold a LOT of 'exchange only' coins.

Yes, and you need to pump. Of course, you don't hold all the burst, so it doesn't make sense that you pump it alone. It would be fair if all holders would participate. I actually made an attempt to pump it along with a few other holders, but somehow I ended up supporting at least 50% of the buy orders, while having only 20% of the coins, in our group. I tried, but did not get much help from the community.

carboncredit

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Quote from: 12gaFacelift on September 12, 2015, 09:05:50 AM

Sad thing to see that pool offline: http://cryptomining.farm/

very sorry, i'm on holiday
it' online now
Cry

wmikrut

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Well, I have been at this for a LONG time... and I am definitely a holder.
Why?

Most times when a coin is released it looks great on paper and function, but a lack of supporting service causes the hold.
For example, I am holding a lot of Burst. I am still hoping a 'cryptothrift' opens up where I can trade for goods/services directly with Burst.

Will it ever materialize? Perhaps if there is enough popularity around the coin.
If not, then -- I am holding a lot of 'exchange only' coins.

Currently I hold a LOT of 'exchange only' coins.

bitladen

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Quote from: wmikrut on September 13, 2015, 12:20:08 PM

So I've had to catch up for three pages... we're talking about a Burst clone, that can mine on Burst and the new coin with the same plot files?
SIGN ME UP YESTERDAY!!!!

correct.
I will announce with a few days in advance before I launch anything.
but in any case, my coin will not reward the first miners any better than the ones who join later.
and will encourage dumping, reward structure being inflationary, block reward being proportional to difficulty.

my theory is that this coin, and many other altcoins die because everybody holds. am I right or wrong, we will see, but it won't cost anything extra to mine it.

Thus far burst is crashing, that part we can all see

I've said this in march, when the price was 170 sat, so far I've only been proven correct.

wmikrut

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So I've had to catch up for three pages... we're talking about a Burst clone, that can mine on Burst and the new coin with the same plot files?
SIGN ME UP YESTERDAY!!!!

vaxman

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Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 11:53:35 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:51:56 AM

Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:46:13 AM

Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?
If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

He stated that he did - don't recall if it was here or in IRC, but he said he had it.

and is that a fact?
as I recall you said you are involved in child pornography. is that a fact?

Very funny, not.
btw - I found the conversation where I was told your botnet had harvested 6 million verified email addresses.

that's funny because I found the logs where you told me about your child porn enterprises.

Welcome to our little internet forum, the place where any discussion ends in thought-terminating clichés.
I'll leave for today, nothing interesting here.

bitladen

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Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:51:56 AM

Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:46:13 AM

Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

He stated that he did - don't recall if it was here or in IRC, but he said he had it.

and is that a fact?
as I recall you said you are involved in child pornography. is that a fact?

Very funny, not.

btw - I found the conversation where I was told your botnet had harvested 6 million verified email addresses.

that's funny because I found the logs where you told me about your child porn enterprises.

haitch

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Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:46:13 AM

Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

He stated that he did - don't recall if it was here or in IRC, but he said he had it.

and is that a fact?
as I recall you said you are involved in child pornography. is that a fact?

Very funny, not.

btw - I found the conversation where I was told your botnet had harvested 6 million verified email addresses.

bitladen

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Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:46:13 AM

Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

He stated that he did - don't recall if it was here or in IRC, but he said he had it.

and is that a fact?
as I recall you said you are involved in child pornography. is that a fact?
perhaps that's why you really have 90TB of disk space laying around.

haitch

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

He stated that he did - don't recall if it was here or in IRC, but he said he had it.

bitladen

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:38:33 AM

Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

Last I've checked botnets were illegal. I would never engage in illegal activities.
It seems to that haitch is the one with no proof here

vaxman

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Quote from: haitch on September 13, 2015, 11:36:04 AM

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

Is there any indication of a botnet of usurped machines ?
Do you have proof or are you just painting in vivid colours here ?

If this was a botnet (unknowing victims) this would constitute a criminal offence on various levels,
at least in my jurisdiction. So, is there anything besides chatter that supports your allegation ?

haitch

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:13:35 AM

Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 10:53:46 AM

that's alright, can't hurt that I asked though, right?

no hard feelings.
Other than the usual childish nagging on this forum your posts where at least insightful, inspiring and open. Mostly.

I don't see you as the evil attacker/extortioner, a 51% attack is just a real thing we have to deal with.

I didn't see this coming and was very surprised that someone has access to nearly 2PB "cheap".
Just guessing here, but I don't believe you're paying standard market rates for those - but you
already told us not to ask, OK.

He doesn't have access to "cheap" 2PB - he has access to free 2PB - he's running a botnet. He has 2PB of unwitting, unknowing, miners mining for him.

bitladen

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 11:13:35 AM

Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 10:53:46 AM

that's alright, can't hurt that I asked though, right?

no hard feelings.
Other than the usual childish nagging on this forum your posts where at least insightful, inspiring and open. Mostly.

I don't see you as the evil attacker/extortioner, a 51% attack is just a real thing we have to deal with.
I was very surprised that someone has access to nearly 2PB "cheap". Just guessing here, but I don't
believe you're paying standard market rates for those.

Well, allow me to retort, you have quite some hashpower yourself, where's that coming from? I guess you're not paying standard market rates. Or you're crazier than I am.

But all I'm saying is: burst hashpower is low. Get more hashpower!
And the only reasonable way to get it that I can think of is by increasing the rewards ( reward increase or price increase ). Surely at least price increase would benefit all the holders, yet they don't seem to care. No way of doing that without pumping, why don't they form an alliance of their own, and act together to pump it?

In any case, I see support for my future clone. I will do that.
But be assured, if you allow the hashrate to drop to the point where I have 51% I feel obligated to attack. No hard feelings.

vaxman

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Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 10:53:46 AM

that's alright, can't hurt that I asked though, right?

no hard feelings.
Other than the usual childish nagging on this forum your posts where at least insightful, inspiring and open. Mostly.

I don't see you as the evil attacker/extortioner, a 51% attack is just a real thing we have to deal with.

I didn't see this coming and was very surprised that someone has access to nearly 2PB "cheap".
Just guessing here, but I don't believe you're paying standard market rates for those - but you
already told us not to ask, OK.

bitladen

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Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 10:52:05 AM

Quote from: bitladen on September 13, 2015, 10:35:32 AM

Quote from: vaxman on September 13, 2015, 10:30:10 AM

I had a short encrypted conversation on the blockchain with him in mid-June, same content.
Well, my reaction is that I just added 50 TB to my rig on Friday.
As long as power and AC supply permit I'll keep them online.

D6Q4N

yep. I'm not sure if you realize, if we form a 51% alliance, we effectively double our rewards.
as in with 51% of the hashpower we get all blocks, instead of just 51%

You see, I'm not in this to get out the maximum possible amount of coins. I want this coin to succeed,
I want to see services, external use of this thing. I have the impression that your plan hurts the longterm
prospects, therefore we're not in the same boat.

that's alright, can't hurt that I asked though, right?
and there's the fact that I think your strategy is self defeating in the long run. but you don't have to agree.
i'm just saying.
listen or not, its up to you.

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