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hero member
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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)
See for yourself, do you think we should just wait:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 10:24:48 UTC
Block: 141,565
Difficulty: 7,750
Est. Networksize (PB): 8.1260931326383

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 12:27:44 UTC
Block: 141,594
Difficulty: 7,052
Est. Networksize (PB): 7.3944100609821

Current time: 2015-09-11 14:00:00 UTC
Block: 141,613
Difficulty: 12,973
Est. Networksize (PB): 9.787

Did you have a point, or are you doing your best chicken Little impersonation ?


It is always amazing, that people who always say they block me, are the first who have something to criticise, ...
Good job!
Now go back to your room and play with your toys.
hero member
Activity: 539
Merit: 500
See for yourself, do you think we should just wait:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 10:24:48 UTC
Block: 141,565
Difficulty: 7,750
Est. Networksize (PB): 8.1260931326383

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 12:27:44 UTC
Block: 141,594
Difficulty: 7,052
Est. Networksize (PB): 7.3944100609821

Current time: 2015-09-11 14:00:00 UTC
Block: 141,613
Difficulty: 12,973
Est. Networksize (PB): 9.787

Did you have a point, or are you doing your best chicken Little impersonation ?
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)
See for yourself, do you think we should just wait:

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 10:24:48 UTC
Block: 141,565
Difficulty: 7,750
Est. Networksize (PB): 8.1260931326383

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 12:27:44 UTC
Block: 141,594
Difficulty: 7,052
Est. Networksize (PB): 7.3944100609821
newbie
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In fact I like bitladen's idea of a coin based on CryptoNote+PoC+floating rewards, but imho any of these are too radical changes for burst. It would be interesting as a new coin.
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)
Even if BitLaden and Elmit are right, why fixing burstcoin on force?
I am against it.

Why dont you make your own coin and promote it and preosper on it, I will join for sure.

This is soooo suspicious when you force that hard to change something in the name of community.

BitLaden, you have a knowledge and hashpower, do it, and invite us to join you, not forcing others to change.


There is no force included.

Sure it is possible to make another coin. However, if this coin is successful, then BURST is definitely dead.
It's up to you if you want to discuss or do something.

hero member
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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)
The last days this thread includes proposals, and counter proposals.
One side says the others are idiots.

In the meantime the coin price is going further down.

You are dreaming of an investor, but you have nothing to convince a potential investor.
If you tell an investor that you have the best product, then he will tell you, that you need a marketing guy.
If you tell an investor that you want to develop some more features, then he will tell you, you should a marketing forecast. If convinced, he might invest.
If you tell an investor about BURST, he might answer what is that?
If you tell an investor about low cost mining, then he might ask and what can you do with the coins?

....

All what we have is a dream! Investors are not dreamers!
You need to prepare some documents, some convincing forecasts.

We hear, BURST is great! - How great? (in numbers, in US$ and why?)
We hear, BURST has features! - Which one? (How do they compare to other coin's features?)
We hear, the value WILL go up, therefore I hold on the coin. Investor gives a damn what the coin is doing in a year, how is it performing in the next two months, what is the plan, ...

If you think in investments of 100 US$, then keep on dreaming. If you think in investments in 100,000s or millions, then you need to prepare GOOD documents, excel sheets and PROOF each number!
It needs also a document how you want to run the funding, how you give them controls over their investment. Why they can trust you.
To put Crow into the front line and say, that his "Trust" on Bitcointalk is higher than others would not be taken serious.
The investor wants to know why he can trust you, as company, as person, as manager, as developer. Do you have a past record to show?

For one of my previous company I got 6 million US$ investment. It needed a half year writing the documents, two different sets of CPAs were involved. Endless meetings. Further you need to be able to answer the future planning, the exit strategy, ...

What do we have? Just insults to each other of not understanding "what I said".

Crow made a start with his document, but not many constructive answers came to his proposal.
newbie
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Check the last posts of burstcoin dev, he did not like the idea of changing the block reward: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/burstcoin-364787

I still haven't got an answer, why do you guys think that tinkering with the block reward would bring more miners? The price will drop even more. The trust will be lost as well because the basic parameters are so easily changed. Developing coin features and keeping the development steady matters more, imho.

This sounds far more reasonable to me:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12385695
Maybe the author of that post could lead the development?
sr. member
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Even if BitLaden and Elmit are right, why fixing burstcoin on force?
I am against it.

Why dont you make your own coin and promote it and preosper on it, I will join for sure.

This is soooo suspicious when you force that hard to change something in the name of community.

BitLaden, you have a knowledge and hashpower, do it, and invite us to join you, not forcing others to change.
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Get something more to the table than just: I don't want that.
Use your brain/imagination, color it if you want, but tell us why you cannot or do not want understand what crow proposes.
It makes sense to me what he said, but absolutely no sense what you said.

Elmit i don't have to prove you anything. You can write here whatever you want, but my troll detector blocking you right now Smiley

You are right, YOU cannot proof to me anything. Yes, I write here whatever I want.
There is an old saying: Don't point finger against somebody, because 3 fingers are always pointing back at you. ;-)
Elmit How much burst coins you are holding ?

Not many, why?
What does it matter in this thread?
Why should I keep them?
How many do you have?
Hix
legendary
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At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Get something more to the table than just: I don't want that.
Use your brain/imagination, color it if you want, but tell us why you cannot or do not want understand what crow proposes.
It makes sense to me what he said, but absolutely no sense what you said.

Elmit i don't have to prove you anything. You can write here whatever you want, but my troll detector blocking you right now Smiley

You are right, YOU cannot proof to me anything. Yes, I write here whatever I want.
There is an old saying: Don't point finger against somebody, because 3 fingers are always pointing back at you. ;-)
Elmit How much burst coins you are holding ?
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Get something more to the table than just: I don't want that.
Use your brain/imagination, color it if you want, but tell us why you cannot or do not want understand what crow proposes.
It makes sense to me what he said, but absolutely no sense what you said.

Elmit i don't have to prove you anything. You can write here whatever you want, but my troll detector blocking you right now Smiley

You are right, YOU cannot proof to me anything. Yes, I write here whatever I want.
There is an old saying: Don't point finger against somebody, because 3 fingers are always pointing back at you. ;-)
sr. member
Activity: 355
Merit: 250

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Get something more to the table than just: I don't want that.
Use your brain/imagination, color it if you want, but tell us why you cannot or do not want understand what crow proposes.
It makes sense to me what he said, but absolutely no sense what you said.

Elmit i don't have to prove you anything. You can write here whatever you want, but my troll detector blocking you right now Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Exactly this.

He(and most likely many more) are cloudmining and because low price it is now unprofitable so he(they) wants to increase reward so he(they) can start cloudmining again and dump for easy money.. increasing reward doesn't attract new miners - whoever said that is just plain dumb.


You should start to read your own answers. Didn't you argue, that the price would go more down with a higher reward? So what now? Flip the coin and make up your mind.




Yes I did, twice. Do you need help understanding why?
hero member
Activity: 785
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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Exactly this.

He(and most likely many more) are cloudmining and because low price it is now unprofitable so he(they) wants to increase reward so he(they) can start cloudmining again and dump for easy money.. increasing reward doesn't attract new miners - whoever said that is just plain dumb.


You should start to read your own answers. Didn't you argue, that the price would go more down with a higher reward? So what now? Flip the coin and make up your mind.

Fact is that we have no developer, no USED features, no PROMOTED features, a couple of thinkers who are not able to think beyond their breakfast. GET UP OF YOUR CHAIR and do something.

Price gone down to 26, while we speak.

Pool Statistics
Current time: 2015-09-11 10:24:48 UTC
Block: 141,565
Difficulty: 7,750
Est. Networksize (PB): 8.1260931326383

BURST.MiningHere.com
Pool balance: 61,495
Registered Miners: 281

burst.ninja
Pool balance: 18,944
Registered Miners: 405

burst.poolto.be
Pool balance: 4,625
Registered Miners: 255

cryptomining.farm
Pool balance: 189,407
Registered Miners: 1,863

DevPool v2
Pool balance: 590,803
Registered Miners: 556

mining.tompool.org
Pool balance: 277
Registered Miners: 56

pool.blago
Pool balance: 0
Registered Miners: 114

pool.burstcoin.de
Pool balance: 25,689
Registered Miners: 121

pool.burstcoin.it
Pool balance: 38
Registered Miners: 55
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Get something more to the table than just: I don't want that.
Use your brain/imagination, color it if you want, but tell us why you cannot or do not want understand what crow proposes.
It makes sense to me what he said, but absolutely no sense what you said.
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)
Okay, what if we make the following modifications...


1. The cap stays, but coins are added to its total.

2. Rewards are still raised, and decline in reward is lowered. Reward goes to 15k/block now, and reward decline changes to match bitcoin's halving times, by going to 1.455% per month.

3. Transaction fees go up too, minimum goes to 2 or more BURST per transaction, until we believe we can lower it again when there are many more transactions in the network.



This gives incentive for miners to jump back in now and make network bigger again, during this we work our asses off and get the market mods done, mixer AT integrated, etc. Make the market browser better with categories and searchable, etc. Hire a PR company to promote the decentralized market, and get many more users to it.

Get more assets up and running, and work hard to get investors at the same time.
WHAT? Can you tell me, how "up Reward goes to 15k/block" will be help to up the price ? Miners come again... mine and dump it by lower price. This is stupid plan!

Agree with You. Everyone see that, but we have here 1-2 person with lot off hashpower who wants to dump it and make more profit.

You need to start to think out of the box. Where are we now with the coin? What do we want? How can we achieve it. It is way too easy to say: I don't agree.
Bring your suggestions to the table and tell us why!
hero member
Activity: 785
Merit: 500
BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



I am not convinced ;-)
Why do you want the coin? The price is dropping, you cannot buy many things with it, you cannot use it - So why do you want it NOW?
If I look at the exchanges, there is an order book for buying of 1.68 BTC on Bittrex and 4.35 BTC on Poloniex, BUT there are sell orders of 1108 and 64 BTC.
I see that not as a great buying.
I can not see a proof of your argument that BinLaden moved the price down. Can you?
Miners are not investors, they need to pay the bill and will always do that with the mined coins!
hero member
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BURST got Smart Contracts (AT)

I cannot see how this could work.
A company would include REAL persons, but here are only anonymous.
Investor would deal with real company only, but there is nothing, but marketing people. No developer. I see no chance that somebody would invest in such a construct.
The investor would also demand some profit in return, however, the tech guys are not there and without the marketing guys are story tellers.
The money would go to the marketing guys and how would it end up in the opensource community?

Look at Bitcoin, now there are real people, ...

A burstcoin company has accounts as owners, mostly, people control the accounts.
investors will have documented ownership via the burstcoin blockchain. The proof is on lots of computers around the world. Much more safe than a word document company register at a lawyer or an auditor.

the company formation is something like this

0) management decides how they will compensate themselves, smart move would be compensation via company shares, and of course $$ payback of any outlays there might be
1) describe the idea, determine how much mkt. cap the initial offering should raise
2) contact investors, sell shares, put in existing assets from management to get shares to management
3) now you have money and income generating assets, so time to figure how to hire developers to do new stuff, as cheaply as possible.

Investors know they own the income generating assets, and they know the company has a lot of money to make things happen quicker than individuals or people who first need to find money.
I'm sure you can find some people if you are well connected. I would aim for $1M marketcap and i would put in the bylaws that at most 1% of the marketcap can be spent every month, so investors know the
money stays and they can sell again at a reasonable price. Company should also agree to do monthly informal accounting, so investors and traders know what happened, what is the current NAV, what is in the budget.

Company is clearly for-profit, and it is just a lucky side-effect that the company will also grow BURST with services and features - and when needed, help the community with organizing stuff.
Coin is clearly open source, voluntary and decentralized. company should not dictate anything coin-tech wise unless it can gain almost universal acceptance. even non-company shareholders should love the company for what it do and the valuable services it provides.


If I would be an investor, then your words did not open my wallet ;-)
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.

Exactly this.

He(and most likely many more) are cloudmining and because low price it is now unprofitable so he(they) wants to increase reward so he(they) can start cloudmining again and dump for easy money.. increasing reward doesn't attract new miners - whoever said that is just plain dumb.
sr. member
Activity: 355
Merit: 250

At some point the coins generated will be less than the buying pressure on the markets. From that point on, the price will rise. (assuming we get enough features in, and enough marketing out, that the world wants to use the coin at all)


That is poor baseless dreaming. What makes you sure that such a point will exist, what would create such point to increase the price?
What are the features, you are believing would make the world wanting the coin at all?Huh

We do have great features, and still nobody wants the coin! AT, crowdfunding, lottery, assets, escrow, ...

I believe only a targeted marketing could bring us to such a point. For this more than two people on Twitter are necessary!

I want the coin. I mine and hold bc i see value.
i am not alone, not at all alone.
even with only the feature set today, the coin could be worth a lot more, if services were built up around it.
Also, it is evident that there ARE buyers on the exchanges, so i would assume that lower selling pressure will translate into rising prices at some point. Before bitladen had his 2tb and dumped them, we were above 100 sat.  That might be because the miners back then mostly mined and held. Perhaps bitladen is planning to sell his 2TB and buy a lot of burst on the cheap, that is almost the only thing that makes sense reg. what he has done over time. He could not drive the price down much more effectively than he has done.



Exactly. He is trying to brainwash us. I understand why Elmit support him. Obvoius troll is obvious, but crowetic? Wake up guys. Don't touch burstcoin fundaments.
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