Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 418. (Read 2171065 times)

You could try the version I got from there few days ago: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2degd5msjpyfpo/atcrowdfund.html?dl=0. There could be a bug in the original html file, because I'm still trying to deploy a Crowdfunding AT for my project and it still gives an error:


What are the fees to deploy a crowdfunding AT?

It would be nice if Blagos had some normal stat reporting for your session (like sgminer). Such as the lowest deadline, average lowest deadline, lowest block time, average lowest block time (say bottom 5 or 10%), average block time, slowest disks, disk throughput while mining, time you've been mining for, disk temps (simple temp read from smart attributes and possibly smart fail status), average chance to find block/lowest/highest, average chance to find block last 3 mines, the version of the miner (instead of scrolling off the screen). Adding the ability to start the program with a certain affinity or priority. Adding the ability to prioritize certain disks too. So if you have some NAS or USB disks on hubs you could queue them to start after the SATA disks finish, if you have 100% of your processor being utilized.

Also don't know if it's possible, but SSE3 or SSE4A support would be great as well as a lot of people are running on slightly older hardware. I haven't benchmarked to see how much of a boost these instruction sets are offering Blagos currently (using a SSE4 enabled processor or AVX), but I assume it's something.

Some of those things are more important then others, such as block times and deadline readouts, but a lot of that stuff is important to see so you can get a general sense of the health of your miner, drives, the network, and some quality of life readouts.

Thank you very much, Blago! Since the devpool did not mention about deadline limit, so I thought it was no deadline limit, and did not notice of the targetdeadline parameter at set reward assignment.

Then I should plot more harddisk in order to use devpool...

They link http://burstcoin.info/d/cf   does not work for me

normal.
see pool's TargetDeadline in your log  

  "height": "65473",
  "generationSignature": "e752b64a65dbe669263bca25e7abda4d29b53dddd880f8816743a21aeb7f6f52",
  "baseTarget": "1356316",
  "targetDeadline": "200000"

I think a lot of over emphasis is placed on 'scarcity' of a coin. A lot of coins never reach the point where scarcity actually makes it more valuable or is even a useful attribute. Even Bitcoin hasn't been fully mined yet, and when it does, the entire mining ecosystem that has been built around it will collapse, although it will definitely survive it, mining itself drives almost all coins. You can trade any coin, that doesn't mean it's worth paying attention to though. Arguably what makes Burst unique is the mining process and that pretty much alone has been driving it along (as well as the mining community that has built up around it).

The worth of a cryptocoin today I believe is definitely not based off of how many there will eventually be. There are plenty of coins that have failed while being very limited or having a extremely small mine window.

Burst could have a unlimited mine window and as long as the supply is controlled, it would still be in the same position it already is. There are very few if any coins that have been helped by making coins rare. That just kills off the mining community, which then kills off the coin. It's all about controlling supply, which was another part of what I talked about.



Adding a graph like BTC wisdom, where you could see the block breakdown by days would be great.

No deadlines found in most cases at devpool, is it normal? Or did I miss anything? Thanks for help~~

BURST needs a serious cash injection or large scale adoption for this mining to be worthwhile for me...

+1

good tutorial iron!!!

I disagree about how a coin should work. I think it is vitally important that people know the total quantity of the coin, and that this quantity is final. The problem with all the fiat currencies that always end up worthless is indeed that they keep on printing more and more. If burst was one of those coins where the supply is unlimited, i would never have started mining. With the current math of burst you know that it is a store of value, that it is in a way just like holding gold.  I think a reason that many people shy from most current PoS coins as they are set up, is indeed that they suck as store of value, because you need to keep your wallet open just to keep the value, otherwise you lose out fast due to interest being paid by printing more coins, and debasing all existing coins.

I know that opinions differ reg. wether a currency should be worth less and less each year, or wether it should have a fixed amount in existance, and thus be worth more and more (as at least some coins will be lost over time). - we will probably figure this one out once and for all by looking at all the altcoins and cryptos in 10 years, and do the stats on what has survived and is being used. The current stats are way in favor of coins where the total supply is fixed.  This lesson seems to also have bene learned in the real world historically, where people tend to spend the bad currency and keep the good, which makes sure that the good currency keeps its price and buying power over time.

What do you exactly want to see? Maybe i can add it.

Nice, cheers.

if this means the pools code cannot scale its time to redesign it from scratch.

changing anything in the miners behaviour only extends the core issue for some time.
i made some own code hacks to calculate deadlines based on nonces with the dcct miner and plot code and came to the conclusion that one server should be able to handle at least 80 checks per second.
if this is not enough more servers are required. based on running costs for the pool this means every 500-1000 miner require a own verification node.

if the current poolserver code does not only act as a "webserver" on the hardware and as long as there are no restrictions on the submitted shares like the dev pools have each of these pools can get ddosed with really few bandwidth usage and a few lines of code (as long as they respond under regular load).

love the analysis.

USB drives disconnect... on an occasion anyways I see movement towards 200 sat territory but big blocks of > 200K are still 220 sat. don't want to overpay if I can  

200K BURST is laying there at 220 sat for all day almost , someone is very patient as am I  hunting down 1 million BURST that is my target at 200 and if I can and will wait at 180 sat

220 & 224 sat will yield 350K , that is with current pace 100 Tera drives working non stop for > 2 months non stop  

who the heck is selling at these price levels.. like really.. I am pretty amazed actually , only access to ultra cheap or free disk drives at high capacity maybe
 
seller moved closer to my threshold 218 for 200K now... lets see and moved back up to 220 but this is no profit.. it is pretty funny actually

definitely some access to free drives so then 200$ in his pocket.. but still this is no real  profit.. anyways lets see what he/she does...  as I am sure he/she reads this thread

this could be a bot actually even at 200K although that is large sum for BURST trade.. pattern is oscillating up and down 220 then 218 and again 220 not a human hand is doing this.. a bot for sure

this ain't going anywhere tonight.. bot is probing 218 and 220 sat level for 200K block.. not this time.. speak soon

People! You make your own problems at the pool.
Limit your outgoing deadlines.
For example, cryptomining.farm, Total Miners= 972 .
If everyone sends 10 deadlines, the server creates a queue of 9720 messages that the server should check and confirm ...
A very large load on the server and bandwidth.
If you set your average TargetDeadline to send 2-3 deadline for each block, the server will works 3-5 times better (972*3).

sometimes... do you have it often?

Anyone experiencing crash randomly on get mining info failed message?

please please open proxy mode on blago miner
thanks

Yeah, I don't think you need to worry about your electrical unless you have a old place. Mining with HDs isn't like mining with GPUs. Unless you have a old house with old wiring, you probably can pull close to 1600w from the outlet. Most places are rated for 15amp circuits (1800w), sometimes 20amps. Watts are ampsXvolts. HDs are like 6w a piece.

You'd need a LOT of HDs to get close to that and of course a PSU able to reach that. I set up a 220v service for myself back when I did GPU mining and needed real power, but since then it seems sorta like a waste.


It is a shame. Since this is the only capacity oriented coin, if it goes belly up or the price doesn't increase, that's a lot of storage space that basically no one wants. If price of the coin doesn't naturally increase, the triage from the block rewards decreasing willy slowly kill off mining (and possibly the coin). Although the block rewards decrease really slowly with Burst, I've seen it kill off other coins before.

The expectation is the market value of the coin will increase as supply decreases (artificially decreasing the supply will increase the value), but that doesn't always determine the value. The market may just say fuck it, especially if social factors cave, such as the coin is no longer profitable to mine and therefore, no longer generates buzz or attention. With PoS coins, the developers greatly underestimated the influence the miners themselves had on how popular the coin was. Even though the 'fee' of mining was gone, many coins quickly fall by the wayside because no one talks about them anymore, and therefore no one uses them anymore. Mining perpetuate coins as much as it 'costs' the coin market.

In my personal opinion, you could essentially say mining makes and breaks coins. As soon as the mining dries up for Burst, for instance (although that's a ways off), Burst better have a very well established foothold in the Cryptocurrency world or it will dry up as well.

We can assume people who bought drives for Burst will mine till the end of time, since there is no other Crypto coin, network difficulty will only increase. So if price doesn't increase, we could see the effects of this start to happen in the next few months.

I honestly never understood why coin developers put a decreasing or changing block reward on a coin, I think this stems from developers really having no understanding of economics (sorry devs). It's supposed to 'reward' early adopters (and in some cases help finish a coin mine), but all it does is kills interest when it finally gains traction, especially with a coin that already has more going for it. Block reward should always be static on a coin, with the exception of fees. This would all be determined by the market instead of the developer trying to artificially influence the market through changing the supply.

Instead you create a artificial 'bubble' of profitability, which fades over time, especially if the coin doesn't gain a foothold or increase in value.

Really you should have a static block reward + fees, which never changes. The value of mining is determined by market worth. Coin mining would just cut off at whatever cap you want it to eventually reach. To that end, I don't think I've ever seen a coin gain 'value' by being fully mined. Usually at the end of the mine, there is a big 'boost' which is usually just a pump, and then it's all dumped and the coin fades to nothingness as they don't have anything going for them besides mining, which was driving all the interest.