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Anyone experiencing crash randomly on get mining info failed message?
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Anyone else getting problems on http://cryptomining.farm/ pool finding to continues to drop connection and error out and uable to mine. Been like this most the day. Anyone else got same problems?

Keep getting the following problems on pool




please please open proxy mode on blago miner
thanks
sr. member
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Yeah, I don't think you need to worry about your electrical unless you have a old place. Mining with HDs isn't like mining with GPUs. Unless you have a old house with old wiring, you probably can pull close to 1600w from the outlet. Most places are rated for 15amp circuits (1800w), sometimes 20amps. Watts are ampsXvolts. HDs are like 6w a piece.

You'd need a LOT of HDs to get close to that and of course a PSU able to reach that. I set up a 220v service for myself back when I did GPU mining and needed real power, but since then it seems sorta like a waste. Sad


It is a shame. Since this is the only capacity oriented coin, if it goes belly up or the price doesn't increase, that's a lot of storage space that basically no one wants. If price of the coin doesn't naturally increase, the triage from the block rewards decreasing willy slowly kill off mining (and possibly the coin). Although the block rewards decrease really slowly with Burst, I've seen it kill off other coins before.

The expectation is the market value of the coin will increase as supply decreases (artificially decreasing the supply will increase the value), but that doesn't always determine the value. The market may just say fuck it, especially if social factors cave, such as the coin is no longer profitable to mine and therefore, no longer generates buzz or attention. With PoS coins, the developers greatly underestimated the influence the miners themselves had on how popular the coin was. Even though the 'fee' of mining was gone, many coins quickly fall by the wayside because no one talks about them anymore, and therefore no one uses them anymore. Mining perpetuate coins as much as it 'costs' the coin market.

In my personal opinion, you could essentially say mining makes and breaks coins. As soon as the mining dries up for Burst, for instance (although that's a ways off), Burst better have a very well established foothold in the Cryptocurrency world or it will dry up as well.

We can assume people who bought drives for Burst will mine till the end of time, since there is no other Crypto coin, network difficulty will only increase. So if price doesn't increase, we could see the effects of this start to happen in the next few months.

I honestly never understood why coin developers put a decreasing or changing block reward on a coin, I think this stems from developers really having no understanding of economics (sorry devs). It's supposed to 'reward' early adopters (and in some cases help finish a coin mine), but all it does is kills interest when it finally gains traction, especially with a coin that already has more going for it. Block reward should always be static on a coin, with the exception of fees. This would all be determined by the market instead of the developer trying to artificially influence the market through changing the supply.

Instead you create a artificial 'bubble' of profitability, which fades over time, especially if the coin doesn't gain a foothold or increase in value.

Really you should have a static block reward + fees, which never changes. The value of mining is determined by market worth. Coin mining would just cut off at whatever cap you want it to eventually reach. To that end, I don't think I've ever seen a coin gain 'value' by being fully mined. Usually at the end of the mine, there is a big 'boost' which is usually just a pump, and then it's all dumped and the coin fades to nothingness as they don't have anything going for them besides mining, which was driving all the interest.
legendary
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I am adding 13TB to my mining capacity sometime this week or next week, awaiting some supplies to make that happen. Lost track of how much i am mining, but it is well over 40TB, probbably not 50TB though, but close. Waiting for windows 10 to be able to run virtualbox host, then i'll probably go buy 20TB more. One of my worries is how much power i can safely drain from just two wall-plugs...

Burst blocks will, while it is still being mined, no matter the starting point in time, be yielding a lot less over the next year than it is at the start of the period, so you really need prices to go up in the short run for it to pay the mining cost, at least until transaction fees start becoming a large part of the payout. It seems like a harddrive right now pays back itself inside 7-8 months, ex power, ex working time, and ex. expenses on the computer the drive is connected to. After 7-8 months you get the drive for free, if you sell the burst for whatever you used to buy the drive with. Looking at things this way, 6 of my 10 4TB drives have now paid for themselves, and are pure profit for me... however i have decided not to sell any burst and away price appreciation.

Good news reg. harddisk robustness when mining.  I have been at it since september, and not one of my drives have gone bad. I have 5 * seagate the cheapest 4TB usb 3.0 drive, and 5 * intenso the cheapest 4TB usb 3.0 drive, and 3 older usb drives (1TB and below) and perhaps 5 or so internal drives at 1Tb to 3TB.  not one of them have gone bad in the half year they've been on 24/7 and mining all the time... so..  seems like burst does not stress the disks to fail fast, not old disks, not new disks... at least not the appprox 20 disk drives i've been mining with.

price wise, i think BURST will only really start to rise when we have mined more of the coins, i'd guess when we're about halfway through, then BURST will start becoming scarce and the coin will at the same time have matured technologically. The combination of tighter supply and growing demand will do a "peak oil" kind of scenario where the price will be pushed up quite a lot. Lower output from mining will mean more coins hitting circulation, and higher demand for a more well known and respected coin, will mean more demand. The fact that burst has held its price with the current pretty large inflation is a very good sign going forward, as we know for sure that the inflation will forever be smaller and smaller.

My bold prediction for 2015 is that we will go up the coinmarketcap rankings and end up just below NXT. This is possible, and in a way, fair. it is somewhat up from current levels, even if you factor in the final amount of burst in existence.


I had 3,000+ watt running off 1 240volt socket and had no problems so you got a fair way to go before using that up with hard drives and if you using sata 3 over powered usb hubs depends on how much wattage each  hdd is using if their external and has own power and connected by usb maybe able to get an extinction that does 8 plugs into one as I have one that has 8 sockets into 1 mains plug with circuit brake on each connector if it over volts or shorts it cuts that socket out.

Have 2 of these


And 1 of these


Looks like going to be grabbing some 5TB units units as price just come down on them dramatic so going to see if can get a bulk deal on them and then see what they retail of 2nd hand cos am going to end up having like 100TB if no more at this rate if I go all at Burst and that going to be an insane amount of space to have left over when mining gets too hard.
sr. member
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I am adding 13TB to my mining capacity sometime this week or next week, awaiting some supplies to make that happen. Lost track of how much i am mining, but it is well over 40TB, probbably not 50TB though, but close. Waiting for windows 10 to be able to run virtualbox host, then i'll probably go buy 20TB more. One of my worries is how much power i can safely drain from just two wall-plugs...

Burst blocks will, while it is still being mined, no matter the starting point in time, be yielding a lot less over the next year than it is at the start of the period, so you really need prices to go up in the short run for it to pay the mining cost, at least until transaction fees start becoming a large part of the payout. It seems like a harddrive right now pays back itself inside 7-8 months, ex power, ex working time, and ex. expenses on the computer the drive is connected to. After 7-8 months you get the drive for free, if you sell the burst for whatever you used to buy the drive with. Looking at things this way, 6 of my 10 4TB drives have now paid for themselves, and are pure profit for me... however i have decided not to sell any burst and await price appreciation.

Good news reg. harddisk robustness when mining.  I have been at it since september, and not one of my drives have gone bad. I have 5 * seagate the cheapest 4TB usb 3.0 drive, and 5 * intenso the cheapest 4TB usb 3.0 drive, and 3 older usb drives (1TB and below) and perhaps 5 or so internal drives at 1Tb to 3TB.  not one of them have gone bad in the half year they've been on 24/7 and mining all the time... so..  seems like burst does not stress the disks to fail fast, not old disks, not new disks... at least not the appprox 20 disk drives i've been mining with.

price wise, i think BURST will only really start to rise when we have mined more of the coins, i'd guess when we're about halfway through, then BURST will start becoming scarce and the coin will at the same time have matured technologically. The combination of tighter supply and growing demand will do a "peak oil" kind of scenario where the price will be pushed up quite a lot. Lower output from mining will mean more coins hitting circulation, and higher demand for a more well known and respected coin, will mean more demand. The fact that burst has held its price with the current pretty large inflation is a very good sign going forward, as we know for sure that the inflation will forever be smaller and smaller.

My bold prediction for 2015 is that we will go up the coinmarketcap rankings and end up just below NXT. This is possible, and in a way, fair. it is somewhat up from current levels, even if you factor in the final amount of burst in existence.
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*  if parameter    "UseSorting" : false,  uses sorting in decreasing order (first sending bigger deadline)

Curious, why would you want to set this to true? Wouldn't you want it to submit the deadlines in whatever order it finds them for the sake of speed?

Setting it to false also doesn't seem to do anything from what I can see.

Is there anywhere to see a more in depth block break down then? http://burstcoin.eu/charts/average-block-generation-time

There used to be one at http://burst.cryptoport.io/ but that is uray's block explorer and it seems to be down (at least for me).

The code seems to be on https://github.com/uraymeiviar/burst-block-explorer if anyone is interested.

Thanks.
legendary
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Anyone else getting problems on http://cryptomining.farm/ pool finding to continues to drop connection and error out and uable to mine. Been like this most the day. Anyone else got same problems?

Keep getting the following problems on pool


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Is there anywhere to see a more in depth block break down then? http://burstcoin.eu/charts/average-block-generation-time

There used to be one at http://burst.cryptoport.io/ but that is uray's block explorer and it seems to be down (at least for me).

The code seems to be on https://github.com/uraymeiviar/burst-block-explorer if anyone is interested.
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Hi mates,

Can someone please tell me the current rate for BURST per day for 1TB?

Cheers.

Noto so much!
But you can check here for more details

http://burstcoin.eu

Bye bye


200-250 burst

correct.. i have about 12TB... and i do about 2600 burst/day...
this is just an average.. on 10PB newtwork size...
and this parameter it is really unstable...
a day you can mine 5000burst and another you can mine 1500burst

that's pretty good btw.. do it while you can.. BURST is going be very very valuable even 1000 BURST is going to be a lot

i hope this!!!

but i'm not sure!!!

all of us, need to wait and see!!!

 Wink
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Is there anywhere to see a more in depth block break down then? http://burstcoin.eu/charts/average-block-generation-time
legendary
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Hi mates,

Can someone please tell me the current rate for BURST per day for 1TB?

Cheers.

Noto so much!
But you can check here for more details

http://burstcoin.eu

Bye bye


200-250 burst

correct.. i have about 12TB... and i do about 2600 burst/day...
this is just an average.. on 10PB newtwork size...
and this parameter it is really unstable...
a day you can mine 5000burst and another you can mine 1500burst

that's pretty good btw.. do it while you can.. BURST is going be very very valuable even 1000 BURST is going to be a lot
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sorry if naive' q, need this to cordinate my trading activity, does anyone know exact nature and schedule of block reward reductions into the future , like a time table ? thanks in advance, what I really would like to have is network capacity projection, but that is next to impossible...

Will give u a chart soonish

http://screencast.com/t/zoTReyvik

0 : 10000
10800: 9500
21600: 9025
32400: 8573.75
43200: 8145.0625
54000: 7737.809375
64800: 7350.91890625
75600: 6983.373
86400: 6634.2043
97200: 6302.49409725

thanks so much... great.. also will allow solid distribution world wide even with lower capacity drives in developing countries.. thought reduction was more aggressive.. it is not ... very very cool, and developing countries are high on electrical costs.. so there you go with decentralization,,, granted China could build a warehouse and stack it with high capacity SCSI's and begin race war in this space as well.. if it happens you all should get chunk of BURST as soon as you can at Tera and sat (on exchanges) as its allowed right now

checking bittrex action again... very interesting trading pattern.. like 12 BTC volume Today.. lots of 250K sold at 200 sat.. and rebought etc

believe "asset" territory is also untapped to a degree as well.. although NXT spined off so many that is hard for people to dissect although it is all very valuable long term

you got basically two coins that are "decentralization" friendly it is BURST and MAGI , both were actually presented together at a conference and it makes sense

bought Magi when BURST was at 300 satoshi and in reverse bought BURST when MAGI was 4908 sat.. both are excellent investments long term in my opinion . they, developers should consider "talking to" Supernet developers and close that bridge as well.. anyways..

> 200K BURST lots are gone, so now you have bots playing arbitrage in minuscule amounts, lucky thee who scooped these lots at 200 sat range.. there is one left but < 1/4 40K at 187 sat

thinking thinking.. need to transfer that BTC amount.. that's around 0.07 BTC which is nothing, gone.. next level is 204 and 207 sat...

Here is a 4 year chart. In about 41 months(3 years 5 months) we will be down to just 852 burst / block...about 306k / day



i think under 3750 burst/blok reward we will se a really good hype!!!
but bfore this, i dont' know if we can retouch 100 sat or less...
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1010
sorry if naive' q, need this to cordinate my trading activity, does anyone know exact nature and schedule of block reward reductions into the future , like a time table ? thanks in advance, what I really would like to have is network capacity projection, but that is next to impossible...

Will give u a chart soonish

http://screencast.com/t/zoTReyvik

0 : 10000
10800: 9500
21600: 9025
32400: 8573.75
43200: 8145.0625
54000: 7737.809375
64800: 7350.91890625
75600: 6983.373
86400: 6634.2043
97200: 6302.49409725

thanks so much... great.. also will allow solid distribution world wide even with lower capacity drives in developing countries.. thought reduction was more aggressive.. it is not ... very very cool, and developing countries are high on electrical costs.. so there you go with decentralization,,, granted China could build a warehouse and stack it with high capacity SCSI's and begin race war in this space as well.. if it happens you all should get chunk of BURST as soon as you can at Tera and sat (on exchanges) as its allowed right now

checking bittrex action again... very interesting trading pattern.. like 12 BTC volume Today.. lots of 250K sold at 200 sat.. and rebought etc

believe "asset" territory is also untapped to a degree as well.. although NXT spined off so many that is hard for people to dissect although it is all very valuable long term

you got basically two coins that are "decentralization" friendly it is BURST and MAGI , both were actually presented together at a conference and it makes sense

bought Magi when BURST was at 300 satoshi and in reverse bought BURST when MAGI was 4908 sat.. both are excellent investments long term in my opinion . they, developers should consider "talking to" Supernet developers and close that bridge as well.. anyways..

> 200K BURST lots are gone, so now you have bots playing arbitrage in minuscule amounts, lucky thee who scooped these lots at 200 sat range.. there is one left but < 1/4 40K at 187 sat

thinking thinking.. need to transfer that BTC amount.. that's around 0.07 BTC which is nothing, gone.. next level is 204 and 207 sat...

Here is a 4 year chart. In about 41 months(3 years 5 months) we will be down to just 852 burst / block...about 306k / day



just perfect ! thanks so much, checking my other portfolio holdings.. as said I am tracing MAGI too due to decrease of reward off the top network hash rate, at some point hash rate was so high people were getting 1 MAGI a day .. with tremendous efforts.. find that incredible..

the same here.. anyways.. do let know of any dump below 200 via BTC PM and will take coins from you

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Hi mates,

Can someone please tell me the current rate for BURST per day for 1TB?

Cheers.

Noto so much!
But you can check here for more details

http://burstcoin.eu

Bye bye


200-250 burst

correct.. i have about 12TB... and i do about 2600 burst/day...
this is just an average.. on 10PB newtwork size...
and this parameter it is really unstable...
a day you can mine 5000burst and another you can mine 1500burst
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1010
funny attempt to depress value at bittrex, at 497 coins , let me see at least 200K and it needs to fall below 200 sat.. thanks

02/09/2015 01:19:37 PM   
SELL
0.00000207   497.61373188   0.00103006
hero member
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sorry if naive' q, need this to cordinate my trading activity, does anyone know exact nature and schedule of block reward reductions into the future , like a time table ? thanks in advance, what I really would like to have is network capacity projection, but that is next to impossible...

Will give u a chart soonish

http://screencast.com/t/zoTReyvik

0 : 10000
10800: 9500
21600: 9025
32400: 8573.75
43200: 8145.0625
54000: 7737.809375
64800: 7350.91890625
75600: 6983.373
86400: 6634.2043
97200: 6302.49409725

thanks so much... great.. also will allow solid distribution world wide even with lower capacity drives in developing countries.. thought reduction was more aggressive.. it is not ... very very cool, and developing countries are high on electrical costs.. so there you go with decentralization,,, granted China could build a warehouse and stack it with high capacity SCSI's and begin race war in this space as well.. if it happens you all should get chunk of BURST as soon as you can at Tera and sat (on exchanges) as its allowed right now

checking bittrex action again... very interesting trading pattern.. like 12 BTC volume Today.. lots of 250K sold at 200 sat.. and rebought etc

believe "asset" territory is also untapped to a degree as well.. although NXT spined off so many that is hard for people to dissect although it is all very valuable long term

you got basically two coins that are "decentralization" friendly it is BURST and MAGI , both were actually presented together at a conference and it makes sense

bought Magi when BURST was at 300 satoshi and in reverse bought BURST when MAGI was 4908 sat.. both are excellent investments long term in my opinion . they, developers should consider "talking to" Supernet developers and close that bridge as well.. anyways..

> 200K BURST lots are gone, so now you have bots playing arbitrage in minuscule amounts, lucky thee who scooped these lots at 200 sat range.. there is one left but < 1/4 40K at 187 sat

thinking thinking.. need to transfer that BTC amount.. that's around 0.07 BTC which is nothing, gone.. next level is 204 and 207 sat...

Here is a 4 year chart. In about 41 months(3 years 5 months) we will be down to just 852 burst / block...about 306k / day

hero member
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Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
Hey,

The Crowdfund case is here and ready to be used to fund your projects and ideas. The rules are simple.
You define a name, a description, the total duration of the crowdfunding and the total amount you need to gather. After the duration you have set, the AT checks the total amount gathered and if is greater than the one you have asked, the total amount is sent back to the ATs creators account. If the project is not successfully funded then refunds all the participants the amount they have sent minus the fees the AT needs for processing ( approx. 7 bursts ).

After the crowdfund case is done, the AT acts as a donation address, where any amount sent to the AT goes to the creator of the AT.

As in the lottery case I created a html file for making things easier for anyone interested in creating his project or help funding the project. If you want to use the html file then copy it under html/ui/ directory.
The resulting html looks like that:


You can find the corresponding html here: http://burstcoin.info/d/cf
and the assembly code of the CF case here: http://pastebin.com/09j994Yc
I tried to create a Crowdfund AT, but it gives an error:



The name should not contain spaces Smiley
I tried it again without spaces - same error. Are there other limitations? Do I need anything else except 1.2.2 wallet and atcrowdfund.html? What is the fee needed - there are just 2 burst there (BURST-RUL4-HV8X-C2US-79AAU)?

There is a limitation on the total size the name can be, but i dont recall atm the exact number (maybe 30 chars). Maybe that is th reason you are getting rejection. Can you try with a shorter name instead?
Same error. Are there limitations in the characters used in description (except max 990 chars)?
legendary
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nice , already made money yesterday 201 sat Today 223 . I absorbed lot of coins yesterday ... of course I ain't selling not as much as even 1 satoshi of BURST

 Cool

who the heck was selling yesterday at such low price.. I know folks picked it up even at 188... yo whoever you are you just like to use exchanges thrill of placing an order must be

if I see another wave to the ground like that I am scooping this time if I can over 1 million if allowed. network capacity ain't stopping , exchange trading exceeds value of increasing drive capacity

so if you want to unload BURST please ping me.. but I don't do escrow.. just give me heads up before exchange play.. same thing 200 sat and < I am ok with

 


speak soon
legendary
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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
-[ANNOUNCEMENT]-

pool at http://burst.ga is currently being worked on. There will be downtime. The pool is going to the new pool code. I will post when complete, bear with us during the changeover process. Thanks!


Also, please stay tuned for the Asset announcement from ByteEnterprises, and how you can get involved. Thanks!



EDIT : Nevermind, due to a situation, the swap is going to be moved to tomorrow. So will the asset announcement. Thank you for your understanding!
sr. member
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There is definitely some optimizations that could benefit Blagos miner. My experience is that I need to use a lower cache size than what ought to be optimal. Optimally, the miner should read all the data it needs from a file in one go, and do it's thing. That would limit the IO seeks to 2 per plotfile. But if I set the cache size such that it should be able to read everything the CPU will visually idle while it's trying to find the best offset. However if I lower it to 131072, it seems to keep the CPU at 100% utilization.

That said, I still have great success with optimizing. My 16TB took ~110s unoptimized, and are now running in ~80s, great improvement.

Hmmm, what sort of drives are you using? I never saw an improvement from optimizing my drives, I'm using the J6 optimizer as well (not Blagos). The drives I'm using should be very fast sequentially, but suck as far as seeks go (slower spindle = longer seeks, higher density = faster sequential).

I actually seem to be running into a absolute lowest mine time of ~50s for one of my drives. Although I'll be testing more later tonight on my desktop CPU (4690k). I OC'd my x4 640 an additional 25% and it didn't move that time at all, which I'm starting to think Blagos is part of the bottleneck (it can only process so fast regardless of the rest of the system).

When looking at the drives in resource monitor they aren't transferring that much data. The GPU plotter wrote to them about 3x faster doing a 8192 stagger buffer, which I assume is similar in nature to when they're getting mine

Why 131072 too? Why not 100000?


Some more testing, it looks like my drives are not the limitation. Looking at random transfers in HD Tune using random access, they're about 4x higher then the transfer speed I'm getting with Blagos at the same block size >64K. That is a worst case scenario as well, which shouldn't be representative of a optimized disk (which is supposedly mainly sequential).

Update to this, with a 4690k I got it down to 32s, but the drive still wasn't being maxed out.
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