Burstdev, is it ok if we re-organize the OP a little bit? Make it easier to edit for you and some new resources. If ok, I'll PM you something in like 12h.
Would be nice to mention LuckyAT or the lottery in the subject line but I see that it's already long...
Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 448. (Read 2170648 times)
January 27, 2015, 07:01:40 AM
January 27, 2015, 06:59:59 AM
@mmmaybe - much appreciated - we are in this together and hopefully AT and Burst will be a successful combination (both myself and vbcs are very pleased with how AT has been integrated with Burst).
Looking to making more history with an actual "atomic cross-chain transfer" hopefully happening within the next month!
Looking to making more history with an actual "atomic cross-chain transfer" hopefully happening within the next month!
January 27, 2015, 06:55:39 AM
I would like the PR team to please get their terminology straight about the "smart contracts" as some of the articles I've read are just plain wrong.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
Thanks, we will be more careful with the terminology! As for credits for AT we always link to your site in the sources, but "created by CIYAM Developers" is of course possible to include in the material write (or get to check before publishing)
When in comes to journalists though we learned the hard way that some doesn't even contact us before publication, despite we end each press release with contact info and "Looking forward to hear from you!". Can't do much there, but hopefully it will get better if we are stricter with the concepts used.
Regard,
January 27, 2015, 05:28:43 AM
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So processing your plots faster only helps if more then one block is waiting to hit the chain?
(this is for solo mining)
suppose a deadline exist at the end of the last file the miner will mine might. that deadline could be a 20s deadline. You want that deadline found before 20s has gone by, so your wallet can announce it at 20s exactly, otherwise some dude with a 21s deadline might win the block even though you had the better deadline, because you had not found it yet. If you find a 1s deadline after 30s, it will only win the block if noone found a 29s or below deadline, so you need both to be lucky to have the lowest deadline of all, and also to have read it faster than the next lowest announced.
So the faster you can read all your plots the better - it will get you more blocks, as you will be able to post more deadlines in time for them to be "used"
January 27, 2015, 05:22:22 AM
Ok, So ive Finally ploted about 30tb and im starting to feel like the Pools are not paying me appropriately. So i would like to start solo mining for a bit to compair the payouts. How do I get my PoC miner to Read from Multiple drives. as of now the Poc miner Only mines from the Plot folder that the PoCminer.bat is Included in.
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
The POC miner only looks at one location for files, so you will have to have one running for each drive, or have to use symbolic links or some other similar tech. to have the files from several drives appear in the same directory. I have one miner per drive, and it works fine, and totally spends all available cpu, reading off all drives at the same time (got a bunch of external drives connected to usb 2 and 3, as well as some internal drives) i use the -Xmx nnnnm option to start the miner to limit/allocate its memory usage, and it seems how much ram an individual miner uses is dependent on how large the stagger size is.
here's one of my batch files for inspiration (this one is set quite high RAM wise, highest staggered file is 38K stagger) :
Code:
set WHERE=Mining INTENSO4TB#5 on P drive
set MAXRAM=1000m
title %WHERE%
:mine
"%PROGRAMFILES%\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Ddrive="%WHERE%" -Xmx%MAXRAM% -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner mine "http://127.0.0.1:8125"%*
goto mine
set MAXRAM=1000m
title %WHERE%
:mine
"%PROGRAMFILES%\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Ddrive="%WHERE%" -Xmx%MAXRAM% -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner mine "http://127.0.0.1:8125"%*
goto mine
January 27, 2015, 05:20:31 AM
yes theres a difenece from wallet 1.2.0 anunced in jpg thete and wallet 1.2.1 that is the correct non forked one blcokchain wallet but pools are still capting like the us.burstcoin.io soo i dont mine there for the next 2 day a small fork may have occurred too much low diff.
January 27, 2015, 05:15:59 AM
Could someone indoctrinate me on exactly how the mining process works? From what I understand, it looks for deadlines, it finds deadlines and if it submits it first you win the block? But if you don't process it fast enough and another block appears, you lose any chance at deadlines in the last block. If that's the case wouldn't an extremely fast processor give you a huge leg up on the competition as you'd be sending in deadlines before anyone else if more then one person has the same deadline?
Every combination of accountId, nonce, generationsignature, and height will calculate out to a deadline number. The generationsignature and height will be the same for everyone each block. Every block the miner goes through all your plot files calculating the deadlines for each nonce you have plotted, keeping track of the best one(or ones if you use a pool that takes multiple). The deadline is a number of seconds that if that many seconds pass since the previous block without a new block coming out you can announce a block with that accountId and nonce. Faster speed may help you find your best deadline faster, but once it has been found you can only sit and wait to see if someone else had a lower deadline and releases a block first, or if that much time passes and you can release a block. If your setup finds your best deadline very slowly it does put you at a disadvantage, since it opens up the possibility of someone else's deadline coming up and them releasing a block before you finish finding yours, when you might have had a better one.
Thanks for the informative answer.
So processing your plots faster only helps if more then one block is waiting to hit the chain?
How would they release a block sooner? That only happens if another block appears on the chain and then has to be processed?
Also is there a timeline on PoC2? Like a few weeks, months?
I also think a GPU assisted miner would most definitely help things out here, at least till PoC2 shows up. I'm looking at having to purchase a ~$150 processor upgrade due to mining times as about half my HD space seems to be being flushed away. It seems as though a quad core is a requirement (hex or oct for AMD).
January 27, 2015, 04:47:22 AM
Could someone indoctrinate me on exactly how the mining process works? From what I understand, it looks for deadlines, it finds deadlines and if it submits it first you win the block? But if you don't process it fast enough and another block appears, you lose any chance at deadlines in the last block. If that's the case wouldn't an extremely fast processor give you a huge leg up on the competition as you'd be sending in deadlines before anyone else if more then one person has the same deadline?
Every combination of accountId, nonce, generationsignature, and height will calculate out to a deadline number. The generationsignature and height will be the same for everyone each block. Every block the miner goes through all your plot files calculating the deadlines for each nonce you have plotted, keeping track of the best one(or ones if you use a pool that takes multiple). The deadline is a number of seconds that if that many seconds pass since the previous block without a new block coming out you can announce a block with that accountId and nonce. Faster speed may help you find your best deadline faster, but once it has been found you can only sit and wait to see if someone else had a lower deadline and releases a block first, or if that much time passes and you can release a block. If your setup finds your best deadline very slowly it does put you at a disadvantage, since it opens up the possibility of someone else's deadline coming up and them releasing a block before you finish finding yours, when you might have had a better one.
January 27, 2015, 04:27:47 AM
I'm doing 25TB and not getting a block per day.
Could someone indoctrinate me on exactly how the mining process works? From what I understand, it looks for deadlines, it finds deadlines and if it submits it first you win the block? But if you don't process it fast enough and another block appears, you lose any chance at deadlines in the last block. If that's the case wouldn't an extremely fast processor give you a huge leg up on the competition as you'd be sending in deadlines before anyone else if more then one person has the same deadline?
Another question, if you're plotting with the GPU plotter with 'direct write' so it optimizes and plots at the same time, how much slower does it go then normal plotting? It also looks like it freezes when you start plotting, but it's still writing to the disk, no status text is updated. Does stagger size matter with 'direct write'? If it's properly defraged couldn't you effectively have a stagger size of like 1024 and it wouldn't matter?
I think I fixed this by installing C++ Runtime 2013, I only had 2008 and 2012 installed.
Could someone indoctrinate me on exactly how the mining process works? From what I understand, it looks for deadlines, it finds deadlines and if it submits it first you win the block? But if you don't process it fast enough and another block appears, you lose any chance at deadlines in the last block. If that's the case wouldn't an extremely fast processor give you a huge leg up on the competition as you'd be sending in deadlines before anyone else if more then one person has the same deadline?
Another question, if you're plotting with the GPU plotter with 'direct write' so it optimizes and plots at the same time, how much slower does it go then normal plotting? It also looks like it freezes when you start plotting, but it's still writing to the disk, no status text is updated. Does stagger size matter with 'direct write'? If it's properly defraged couldn't you effectively have a stagger size of like 1024 and it wouldn't matter?
I'm using Blagos miner and it seems like on occasion I get "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Debug Errors: miner.exe R6010 Abort () Has Been Called" Anyone know what this is or why it's happening? It seems to happen randomly too.
I think I fixed this by installing C++ Runtime 2013, I only had 2008 and 2012 installed.
January 27, 2015, 04:01:41 AM
Mates, need help. Am I right, and 2378 burst just dissapeared from pool side?
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/1776b/olzNb0Tubzc.jpg
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/17774/oT3POkLCJTk.jpg
Looks like a block explorer error. That transaction and the one below it show as being in blocks that don't seem to exist. My best guess is that the block explorer and that pool didn't update to 1.2.1 until after the fork, the pool tried to payout and it got confirmed on the 1.2.0 fork, the block explorer picked it up, and that doesn't exist now, but the block explorer needs to reparse some stuff to be correct, since some 1.2.0 stuff is still there. http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/1776b/olzNb0Tubzc.jpg
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/17774/oT3POkLCJTk.jpg
January 27, 2015, 03:41:37 AM
Mates, need help. Am I right, and 2378 burst just dissapeared from pool side?
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/1776b/olzNb0Tubzc.jpg
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/17774/oT3POkLCJTk.jpg
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/1776b/olzNb0Tubzc.jpg
http://cs622727.vk.me/v622727963/17774/oT3POkLCJTk.jpg
January 27, 2015, 03:24:12 AM
depends on the diff. but i think about 1 block per day.
January 27, 2015, 03:09:44 AM
Ok, So ive Finally ploted about 30tb and im starting to feel like the Pools are not paying me appropriately. So i would like to start solo mining for a bit to compair the payouts. How do I get my PoC miner to Read from Multiple drives. as of now the Poc miner Only mines from the Plot folder that the PoCminer.bat is Included in.
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
Bumping This So it doesnt get lost Unanswered in the thread!
500 burst for the first person who post a Solution for me!
Also thinking about going solo, what kind of results do you expect from 30tb?
January 27, 2015, 02:44:26 AM
Tip Sent thanks, I didnt know blagominer was for solo.
On a side note, shouldn't you also be able to create symbolic links to the other plot drives and put them in your miner-read directory? That seems cleaner to me if it works.
January 27, 2015, 02:14:11 AM
I'm using Blagos miner and it seems like on occasion I get "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Debug Errors: miner.exe R6010 Abort () Has Been Called" Anyone know what this is or why it's happening? It seems to happen randomly too.
Oh and someone should tell whoever has the 8PB farm they're on the wrong block chain and they screwed the block chain for everyone else for about four days because they didn't update their wallet.
Notice the dips coincide with the big farm going offline twice before the fork and now it's still offline and we're sitting at about the difficulty from before it joined.
Oh and someone should tell whoever has the 8PB farm they're on the wrong block chain and they screwed the block chain for everyone else for about four days because they didn't update their wallet.
Notice the dips coincide with the big farm going offline twice before the fork and now it's still offline and we're sitting at about the difficulty from before it joined.
January 27, 2015, 01:25:37 AM
I would like the PR team to please get their terminology straight about the "smart contracts" as some of the articles I've read are just plain wrong.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
Ya, the wallet shows it as "ATs (Smart Contracts)". Not a bad idea to align with that.
January 27, 2015, 01:17:58 AM
I would like the PR team to please get their terminology straight about the "smart contracts" as some of the articles I've read are just plain wrong.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
For a start please use the term AT - Automated Transaction(s) when referring to the "smart contract" technology (i.e. what flavour of "smart contracts" does Burst use) and a specific use case (or "smart contract") such as the Lottery AT.
Thus "smart contracts" would be the most general term - so you'd say that "our platform has implemented AT for its smart contracts" (vs. say Ethereum).
An "Atomic Cross-Chain Transfer" is just a use case (it is not a technology like AT is) so don't confuse that (treat ACCT just as you do the Lottery).
It would also be appreciated if "created by CIYAM Developers" could be included in the PR material about AT as we really do need to try and get other coins to also adopt AT (so that we can actually start using ACCT ATs) and we have no PR team ourselves.
January 27, 2015, 01:09:22 AM
Tip Sent thanks, I didnt know blagominer was for solo.
Ya np. Take a look here for solo config: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9863013
January 27, 2015, 01:04:32 AM
Tip Sent thanks, I didnt know blagominer was for solo.
January 27, 2015, 12:56:13 AM
Ok, So ive Finally ploted about 30tb and im starting to feel like the Pools are not paying me appropriately. So i would like to start solo mining for a bit to compair the payouts. How do I get my PoC miner to Read from Multiple drives. as of now the Poc miner Only mines from the Plot folder that the PoCminer.bat is Included in.
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
I need it to read from about 7 different harddrives.
Untill Now i was using Uray's Miner in which i was able to simple add the paths to each plot folder in a .cfg file How do i do the same with POC miner?
Bumping This So it doesnt get lost Unanswered in the thread!
500 burst for the first person who post a Solution for me!
If you're talking about the Dev's Java-based miner (POC miner), then there is no way I know of to read from multiple drives. It only reads from one folder, and that's the "plots" folder. You can however start up a new instance of the miner for each hdd you have...will eat RAM.
If you want to read from multiple sources with 1 instance of a miner, I'd suggest Blago's miner.
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