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sr. member
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Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.

exactly right.. meantime pools are in major disarray and SATA disks are expensive as heck 6T won't go down in price that easily.. so not just difficult to maintain but not that ultra cheap to mine, also it is very hard to hijack disk space of required magnitude so this is very anti-bot resilient coin

pool operators have to be cautious and provide steady as much as possible flow of deposits it is very important in general not just for individual miners  it is quite unbelievable to me that pools established by core developers to which also assets are tied to are in such a weak state
the pool situation is a direct result of the java backend.
java is not designed to scale quite well by simply adding memory to centralized hosts.
the solution is to port (start from scratch) the required burst protocol parts to a solid c++ backend and run the pools with that.
every single effort which is put into the java code base to stabilize the pool situation is in my eyes not worth it cause the next limit is already set.

what burst needs is a core functionality c++ api to host professional services.
this includes to act as full network peer (aquire and distribute the blockchain),
submit blocks to the network,
extract reward receipients from the chaindata,
send burst,
extract messages,
send messages
and to create addresses from private keys.

if this works the whole api functioniality for the asset exchange and marketplace may get added.
a intermediate solution may be to create a mysql backed partial blockchain with php access to take the pool load away from the java components on the pools. however, as far as i know is the core pool servercode still based on java.
another option to stay with java may be to add autonomous proxies to the pools which submit the round reward assignments to a hidden internal pool server which distributes the rewards. keeping them in sync may be much harder to code than starting to design the c based api from scratch.

a simple pool design may be this:
wallet (current or c based) --> distribute current block information and stats to the miner connect nodes
connect nodes --> provide block data to the miner, accept and verify shares, provide cached stats --> submit miner results to central hidden node
hidden node --> distribute rewards, provide stats
load balancer --> knows throughput of shares for each node and assigns miners to nodes
legendary
Activity: 1792
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Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.

exactly right.. meantime pools are in major disarray and SATA disks are expensive as heck 6T won't go down in price that easily.. so not just difficult to maintain but not that ultra cheap to mine, also it is very hard to hijack disk space of required magnitude so this is very anti-bot resilient coin

pool operators have to be cautious and provide steady as much as possible flow of deposits it is very important in general not just for individual miners  it is quite unbelievable to me that pools established by core developers to which also assets are tied to are in such a weak state
hero member
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Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.
sr. member
Activity: 256
Merit: 250
i was playing around with embedded hardware during the last days to test a setup for a standalone mining machine.
the plotting is done on regular x86_64 computers but mining works with a modded version of dccts miner on a arm a20 soc.
i am completely in the test phase with that but my current results show me this is a option for a long term low power mining device (current estimate is less than 7 watts depending on hdd and psu).
if you use wd 6 tb red editions the power consumption reduces to a bit more than one watt for a tb.
the total costs sum up to about 50 bucks soc hardware plus the hdd, powersupply, case and a network port.
i run this tests on a solo wallet hosted on another machine. for pool mining it can be made to be plug and play.
hosting a own wallet on the soc device may influence the mining performance due to java memory and cpu requirements but the wallet also works in the device.
at the moment i have to wait for my plots to transfer onto the disk but depending on stagger sizes the arm core can handle up to 8 mb/s mining speed.
this should be enough to almost parse 8tb plots within the blocktime.
my estimate to run the current network size with this hardware sums up to 400.000 $ hardware invest and daylie energy costs of less than 100$ !
if anybody is interested in a howto guide let me know and i check how i can provide it. maybe in cooperation with pools which maintain the sd card images for the soc device. it is quite simple if you know what to do.
for anybody who asks why i post such stuff here is my short answer: i want to drive the diff up to at least 20pb within the next couple of month.


hero member
Activity: 527
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Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Are you part of a pool?  I suspect it went to the pool.

I've been curious, I know the basic idea but how do pools work from a technical angle?

No, i'm not in a pool.
I'm mining in solo and in the wallet i set the reward assignment to my account id so theorically i'm not part of any pool.
I see that balance of this account is 10 millions of coins.

Your question was answered before, when you mine a block you get the block reward, not the coins whose transactions are in that block. The transaction was imo a transaction to an exchange account, hence the 10 mil balance

So in every forged block there are the addresses of others accounts that receive some coins?

Yes mate, when you look at a block you can see all the transactions that are included in that block. How many there are, which addys made the transactions plus the amount in coins.
sr. member
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So in every forged block there are the addresses of others accounts that receive some coins?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin#The_block_chain
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Are you part of a pool?  I suspect it went to the pool.

I've been curious, I know the basic idea but how do pools work from a technical angle?

No, i'm not in a pool.
I'm mining in solo and in the wallet i set the reward assignment to my account id so theorically i'm not part of any pool.
I see that balance of this account is 10 millions of coins.

Your question was answered before, when you mine a block you get the block reward, not the coins whose transactions are in that block. The transaction was imo a transaction to an exchange account, hence the 10 mil balance

So in every forged block there are the addresses of others accounts that receive some coins?
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 500
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Your question was answered before, when you mine a block you get the block reward, not the coins whose transactions are in that block. The transaction was imo a transaction to an exchange account, hence the 10 mil balance

No Exchange, just investor ... first 3 are exchanges http://burstcoin.eu/charts/addresses-by-balance ...  

I stand corrected, I thought it might be one of the smaller exchanges.
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 255
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Your question was answered before, when you mine a block you get the block reward, not the coins whose transactions are in that block. The transaction was imo a transaction to an exchange account, hence the 10 mil balance

No Exchange, just investor ... first 3 are exchanges http://burstcoin.eu/charts/addresses-by-balance ...  
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 500
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Are you part of a pool?  I suspect it went to the pool.

I've been curious, I know the basic idea but how do pools work from a technical angle?

No, i'm not in a pool.
I'm mining in solo and in the wallet i set the reward assignment to my account id so theorically i'm not part of any pool.
I see that balance of this account is 10 millions of coins.

Your question was answered before, when you mine a block you get the block reward, not the coins whose transactions are in that block. The transaction was imo a transaction to an exchange account, hence the 10 mil balance
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Are you part of a pool?  I suspect it went to the pool.

I've been curious, I know the basic idea but how do pools work from a technical angle?

No, i'm not in a pool.
I'm mining in solo and in the wallet i set the reward assignment to my account id so theorically i'm not part of any pool.
I see that balance of this account is 10 millions of coins.
sr. member
Activity: 257
Merit: 255
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Serious?

http://burstcoin.eu/block/15973007144300177693
The 700k are the signed transactions by the Block (not related to you) ... you received the 'Block Revard' + 'Transaction Fees' ... everything is fine.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
What usefull thing is done with all the disk space that we use for mining this coin?
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 503
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks

Are you part of a pool?  I suspect it went to the pool.

I've been curious, I know the basic idea but how do pools work from a technical angle?
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
Il little question:

today mining in solo i forged a block with 700,000 (700 thousands) coins but i received only 8600 burst. The others where goes?
I see that all coins in the block are sent to the BURST-5NVZ-GXHA-N3S9-DGZBA account. Why?Huh
Who is the owner of that account?

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 500
Hi!

Introducing simple hazard game called:
GUESS SCOOP WIN BURST
(I was never good in naming things :-) )

See description of BURST-4BET-7D3W-ZMWX-D3W4J account.

Its about guessing the scoop number of every 5th block (blocks 37570, 37575, 37580,...) and its provably fair*.

Bet: 10 BURST
How to: Send 10 burst to address above (alias "scoopwin10" ) with unencrypted message containing number you guessing.

Your transaction must be in the block xxxx0-xxxx4 to be rewarded from the block xxxx5
(or xxxx5-xxxx9 to be rewarded from the block xxxx10)

Who guessed the closest number wins!

The guessing range is 0 to 4095 (if higher, its X mod 4096 )
Guessing range is "circle" - distance 4095 and 0 is 1

Invalid transactions (wrong amount of burst, no message, no number, encrypted message) are sent back (if amount is higher than 2 burst)

If there is only one guess in the round, there is postponed to next round.

Currently running "beta" before start with higher bets.

Bugreports, suggestions (and donations) at BURST-4WYN-ZUTY-EE89-9ZYP2

Fee is 0.5%

_____________
*
generation signature is shabal256(lastblock.generationsignate concat lastblock.miner)
scoop is chosen with shabal256(generationsignature concat blockheight) modulous 4096
number you guessing is choosen by you an you can check numbers of all other players (because are unencrypted)

For block 4 you know scoop of block 5, but your transaction will be included in block 5 ... and transaction included in the block 5 is heading to the scoop in block 10.

Interesting concept and every bit of activity around Burst can be of help.

Risking 10 Burst isnt too big of a deal, however the structure of the game does involve trust as you need to send the Burst back to the winners. Unless youre running a long con I guess we're ok Smiley

Thanks for this kind words.
I am not sure, if there is possibility how to do without sending burst to 3rd party. Even the original Satoshi Dice was based on sending BTC somewhere...

But, before sending Burst, you can check ( http://burstcoin.eu/address/13261835548395382169 ), if the game is still fair.
Currently there is one bet waiting for the "challenger" :-) And before it there were two transactions with guesses
1212 and 868 and the scoop was 3512

The 868 is closer to 3512 (over the zero, don't forget, its circle) and won.

About "long con" - only coins I can "stole" are from the current round - last 5 blocks. Not worth stealing.
From long run point of view, I will have income from fee (hopefully).

Don't be afraid of my honesty but my coding skill! :-D I hope I caught all bugs, but no one ever knows.
____
PS: for grammar nazi: I am not native speaker. ;-)

Well I feel I have a couple of points to make:

1. I really like the concept, it is nicely thought out and unique to BURST
2. I do not believe you'd get enough BURST in on a single round of betting to make it worth your while to steal them and run
3. Until a completely decentralized trustless market is in place somewhere, I am not sure how we can avoid sending of coins to you, so don't sweat it Smiley

All in all, I think your game is worth including in useful links on the site
legendary
Activity: 2282
Merit: 1072
https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
More plots but lower earnings.

I've recently dug out some older smaller drives and plotted them and then started mining with the uray's pool miner
but the burst earnings dramatically decrease after adding the new plotted drives, any ideas on the problem?

The miner just seems to work best with a single plotted drive, it's also eating up about 7GB of ram.

i'm mining on http://cryptomining.farm/ after a lot of uray's V2 pool up & down.
my gain in the last hours are going down...
and i do not understand why..

a week ago i gain 1500 burts average day more..

and i see who difficulty is the same!!!

In order to give a pool a fair chance, you've gotta mine there for at least a full day or two, sometimes more.

That being said, if you don't like that pool you can come check out http://burst.ga

We've been rock solid and hitting blocks all the time.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Hi!

Introducing simple hazard game called:
GUESS SCOOP WIN BURST
(I was never good in naming things :-) )

See description of BURST-4BET-7D3W-ZMWX-D3W4J account.

Its about guessing the scoop number of every 5th block (blocks 37570, 37575, 37580,...) and its provably fair*.

Bet: 10 BURST
How to: Send 10 burst to address above (alias "scoopwin10" ) with unencrypted message containing number you guessing.

Your transaction must be in the block xxxx0-xxxx4 to be rewarded from the block xxxx5
(or xxxx5-xxxx9 to be rewarded from the block xxxx10)

Who guessed the closest number wins!

The guessing range is 0 to 4095 (if higher, its X mod 4096 )
Guessing range is "circle" - distance 4095 and 0 is 1

Invalid transactions (wrong amount of burst, no message, no number, encrypted message) are sent back (if amount is higher than 2 burst)

If there is only one guess in the round, there is postponed to next round.

Currently running "beta" before start with higher bets.

Bugreports, suggestions (and donations) at BURST-4WYN-ZUTY-EE89-9ZYP2

Fee is 0.5%

_____________
*
generation signature is shabal256(lastblock.generationsignate concat lastblock.miner)
scoop is chosen with shabal256(generationsignature concat blockheight) modulous 4096
number you guessing is choosen by you an you can check numbers of all other players (because are unencrypted)

For block 4 you know scoop of block 5, but your transaction will be included in block 5 ... and transaction included in the block 5 is heading to the scoop in block 10.

Interesting concept and every bit of activity around Burst can be of help.

Risking 10 Burst isnt too big of a deal, however the structure of the game does involve trust as you need to send the Burst back to the winners. Unless youre running a long con I guess we're ok Smiley

Thanks for this kind words.
I am not sure, if there is possibility how to do without sending burst to 3rd party. Even the original Satoshi Dice was based on sending BTC somewhere...

But, before sending Burst, you can check ( http://burstcoin.eu/address/13261835548395382169 ), if the game is still fair.
Currently there is one bet waiting for the "challenger" :-) And before it there were two transactions with guesses
1212 and 868 and the scoop was 3512

The 868 is closer to 3512 (over the zero, don't forget, its circle) and won.

About "long con" - only coins I can "stole" are from the current round - last 5 blocks. Not worth stealing.
From long run point of view, I will have income from fee (hopefully).

Don't be afraid of my honesty but my coding skill! :-D I hope I caught all bugs, but no one ever knows.
____
PS: for grammar nazi: I am not native speaker. ;-)
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
blago, any plans to update your miner for dev's poolV2 to submit all deadlines below 200k? I'll send you a nice donation if you do it  Smiley
Yes, i'm change the algorithm, but yet not tested the miner...

thank you for your work blako...
hope you update us soon here on BCT..
i never asked you..
mut you have twitter account???

if yes give us so we can follow you and stay tuned!!!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
More plots but lower earnings.

I've recently dug out some older smaller drives and plotted them and then started mining with the uray's pool miner
but the burst earnings dramatically decrease after adding the new plotted drives, any ideas on the problem?

The miner just seems to work best with a single plotted drive, it's also eating up about 7GB of ram.

i'm mining on http://cryptomining.farm/ after a lot of uray's V2 pool up & down.
my gain in the last hours are going down...
and i do not understand why..

a week ago i gain 1500 burts average day more..

and i see who difficulty is the same!!!
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