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i´m at solo for a week now, but yesterday is was also my badest day. only one block in 24h..... normally i found 4...

how many TB bob??
thanks
hero member
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i´m at solo for a week now, but yesterday is was also my badest day. only one block in 24h..... normally i found 4...
sr. member
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Hey uray,

did you read my post a few pages back: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9652448 ? Are these issues solved so I can return to SG?


pool is still in beta, if i found another critical bug, i might need to reset user balance again if there are no other alternative fix, but currently SG already running more than 24 hr without backend bug, so its up to you

Thanks. Did SG find fewer block the last 24h than the average before?

yes

Aahh, thanks, that explains my earnings yesterday (worst day ever). If you find bugs in the future, it'd be great if you post about a thing like that.  Smiley
hero member
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sorry i've been off for couple of days, currently focusing on upgrading pool, i am sorry if there are a lot of problem before, its because vps provider is pushing me that i made too huge tcp connection, too many cpu time, too much traffic, so i ended up moving all of those pool to new dedicated server, with new software which should be more efficient and has better reward distribution, currently SG and EU already using new code and under testing, and also the front-end is still buggy but i believe back-end is working as intended right know

no, my pools does not post every single nonce received to wallet, its processed first in native C++, and only best nonce for current round is sent to wallet, and also mining info related APIs are cached, its not directly from wallet

but i believe another pool that use my source code doing direct send to wallet for every single nonce, its my guess anyway, because it is how it work in the very basic source code i made public

anyway q327K091, what do you mean pools are in major disarray ?


Hey uray,

did you read my post a few pages back: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9652448 ? Are these issues solved so I can return to SG?


pool is still in beta, if i found another critical bug, i might need to reset user balance again if there are no other alternative fix, but currently SG already running more than 24 hr without backend bug, so its up to you

Thanks. Did SG find fewer block the last 24h than the average before?

yes
hero member
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SO... the price on this shitcoin STILL hasn't gone up, huh?  Is there anyone here still stupid enough to even be mining it?  I didn't bother to read any previous posts before typing this.  I'm glad I left it behind a long time ago.  I still have my 10,931 coins sitting on an exchange in case it ever does pop up.  Feel free to offer me 800 satoshis each coin for them.



If it's really that useless and you think it's that stupid.. then please just sell it right now. Why would I buy your coins at 800 Satoshis when I could buy someone else's for under 100 Satoshis?  I'll give you 100 satoshi each if you want it.
sr. member
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sorry i've been off for couple of days, currently focusing on upgrading pool, i am sorry if there are a lot of problem before, its because vps provider is pushing me that i made too huge tcp connection, too many cpu time, too much traffic, so i ended up moving all of those pool to new dedicated server, with new software which should be more efficient and has better reward distribution, currently SG and EU already using new code and under testing, and also the front-end is still buggy but i believe back-end is working as intended right know

no, my pools does not post every single nonce received to wallet, its processed first in native C++, and only best nonce for current round is sent to wallet, and also mining info related APIs are cached, its not directly from wallet

but i believe another pool that use my source code doing direct send to wallet for every single nonce, its my guess anyway, because it is how it work in the very basic source code i made public

anyway q327K091, what do you mean pools are in major disarray ?


Hey uray,

did you read my post a few pages back: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9652448 ? Are these issues solved so I can return to SG?


pool is still in beta, if i found another critical bug, i might need to reset user balance again if there are no other alternative fix, but currently SG already running more than 24 hr without backend bug, so its up to you

Thanks. Did SG find fewer block the last 24h than the average before?
member
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ah...and also for miner who own following account :

BURST-CREX-FD53-Q698-FJHLS
BURST-ZZDB-7NHL-V5C9-673TK
BURST-9UF6-P65T-7F5Y-EWHD3

please use proper miner, or remove your passphrase.txt, you are sending your secret passpharase to server!

Maybe it would've been better to send them encrypted blockchain messages?

yeah... i just want to make fun of them Tongue

Ooopss!  My bad, I own 2 out of 3 of those...  With all the bouncing between your pools solo mining and pool mining, I was not removing passphrases.txt.  Doh.  Well, good thing you are honest and I move my balances off to another account almost daily Smiley  Should be resolved now, please let me know if it is not...
hero member
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SO... the price on this shitcoin STILL hasn't gone up, huh?  Is there anyone here still stupid enough to even be mining it?  I didn't bother to read any previous posts before typing this.  I'm glad I left it behind a long time ago.  I still have my 10,931 coins sitting on an exchange in case it ever does pop up.  Feel free to offer me 800 satoshis each coin for them.


Haaaa.... 800 sat for each??!  Go back to your pot,ganja,maryj,dank coins!
Lol     Roll Eyes
hero member
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sorry i've been off for couple of days, currently focusing on upgrading pool, i am sorry if there are a lot of problem before, its because vps provider is pushing me that i made too huge tcp connection, too many cpu time, too much traffic, so i ended up moving all of those pool to new dedicated server, with new software which should be more efficient and has better reward distribution, currently SG and EU already using new code and under testing, and also the front-end is still buggy but i believe back-end is working as intended right know

no, my pools does not post every single nonce received to wallet, its processed first in native C++, and only best nonce for current round is sent to wallet, and also mining info related APIs are cached, its not directly from wallet

but i believe another pool that use my source code doing direct send to wallet for every single nonce, its my guess anyway, because it is how it work in the very basic source code i made public

anyway q327K091, what do you mean pools are in major disarray ?


Hey uray,

did you read my post a few pages back: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9652448 ? Are these issues solved so I can return to SG?


pool is still in beta, if i found another critical bug, i might need to reset user balance again if there are no other alternative fix, but currently SG already running more than 24 hr without backend bug, so its up to you
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250

sorry i've been off for couple of days, currently focusing on upgrading pool, i am sorry if there are a lot of problem before, its because vps provider is pushing me that i made too huge tcp connection, too many cpu time, too much traffic, so i ended up moving all of those pool to new dedicated server, with new software which should be more efficient and has better reward distribution, currently SG and EU already using new code and under testing, and also the front-end is still buggy but i believe back-end is working as intended right know

no, my pools does not post every single nonce received to wallet, its processed first in native C++, and only best nonce for current round is sent to wallet, and also mining info related APIs are cached, its not directly from wallet

but i believe another pool that use my source code doing direct send to wallet for every single nonce, its my guess anyway, because it is how it work in the very basic source code i made public

anyway q327K091, what do you mean pools are in major disarray ?


Hey uray,

did you read my post a few pages back: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9652448 ? Are these issues solved so I can return to SG?
legendary
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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
-ANN-



ISSUE!

Please point all miners for http://burst.ga to 192.198.95.50

Thank you and I apologize for the inconvenience!

edit: http://192.198.95.50:8124 for some miners 192.198.95.50:8124 for some. Sorry about this. http://192.198.95.50 - pool page.

There is an issue with me and my balancer/failover host, so please point directly to the server for now. Thank you.


Made Changes to the burst.ga name servers, so everyone should be back up when they clear their cache. Sometimes sooner I suppose...
sr. member
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Hi!

Introducing simple hazard game called:
GUESS SCOOP WIN BURST
(I was never good in naming things :-) )

See description of BURST-4BET-7D3W-ZMWX-D3W4J account.

Its about guessing the scoop number of every 5th block (blocks 37570, 37575, 37580,...) and its provably fair*.

Bet: 10 BURST
How to: Send 10 burst to address above (alias "scoopwin10" ) with unencrypted message containing number you guessing.

Your transaction must be in the block xxxx0-xxxx4 to be rewarded from the block xxxx5
(or xxxx5-xxxx9 to be rewarded from the block xxxx10)

Who guessed the closest number wins!

The guessing range is 0 to 4095 (if higher, its X mod 4096 )
Guessing range is "circle" - distance 4095 and 0 is 1

Invalid transactions (wrong amount of burst, no message, no number, encrypted message) are sent back (if amount is higher than 2 burst)

If there is only one guess in the round, there is postponed to next round.

Currently running "beta" before start with higher bets.

Bugreports, suggestions (and donations) at BURST-4WYN-ZUTY-EE89-9ZYP2

Fee is 0.5%

_____________
*
generation signature is shabal256(lastblock.generationsignate concat lastblock.miner)
scoop is chosen with shabal256(generationsignature concat blockheight) modulous 4096
number you guessing is choosen by you an you can check numbers of all other players (because are unencrypted)

For block 4 you know scoop of block 5, but your transaction will be included in block 5 ... and transaction included in the block 5 is heading to the scoop in block 10.

Interesting concept and every bit of activity around Burst can be of help.

Risking 10 Burst isnt too big of a deal, however the structure of the game does involve trust as you need to send the Burst back to the winners. Unless youre running a long con I guess we're ok Smiley

Thanks for this kind words.
I am not sure, if there is possibility how to do without sending burst to 3rd party. Even the original Satoshi Dice was based on sending BTC somewhere...

But, before sending Burst, you can check ( http://burstcoin.eu/address/13261835548395382169 ), if the game is still fair.
Currently there is one bet waiting for the "challenger" :-) And before it there were two transactions with guesses
1212 and 868 and the scoop was 3512

The 868 is closer to 3512 (over the zero, don't forget, its circle) and won.

About "long con" - only coins I can "stole" are from the current round - last 5 blocks. Not worth stealing.
From long run point of view, I will have income from fee (hopefully).

Don't be afraid of my honesty but my coding skill! :-D I hope I caught all bugs, but no one ever knows.
____
PS: for grammar nazi: I am not native speaker. ;-)
You might want to adjust the range it accepts guesses. The miner who mines block 4 will be able to include his own transaction in block 4 while knowing what scoop block 5 will require. I don't think anyone would bother doing that at this stakes, but just wanted to point out that the person who mines block 4 is able to cheat.
hero member
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ah...and also for miner who own following account :

BURST-CREX-FD53-Q698-FJHLS
BURST-ZZDB-7NHL-V5C9-673TK
BURST-9UF6-P65T-7F5Y-EWHD3

please use proper miner, or remove your passphrase.txt, you are sending your secret passpharase to server!

Maybe it would've been better to send them encrypted blockchain messages?

yeah... i just want to make fun of them Tongue
hero member
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ah...and also for miner who own following account :

BURST-CREX-FD53-Q698-FJHLS
BURST-ZZDB-7NHL-V5C9-673TK
BURST-9UF6-P65T-7F5Y-EWHD3

please use proper miner, or remove your passphrase.txt, you are sending your secret passpharase to server!

Maybe it would've been better to send them encrypted blockchain messages?
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 505
ah...and also for miner who own following account :

BURST-CREX-FD53-Q698-FJHLS
BURST-ZZDB-7NHL-V5C9-673TK
BURST-9UF6-P65T-7F5Y-EWHD3

please use proper miner, or remove your passphrase.txt, you are sending your secret passpharase to server!
hero member
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Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.

exactly right.. meantime pools are in major disarray and SATA disks are expensive as heck 6T won't go down in price that easily.. so not just difficult to maintain but not that ultra cheap to mine, also it is very hard to hijack disk space of required magnitude so this is very anti-bot resilient coin

pool operators have to be cautious and provide steady as much as possible flow of deposits it is very important in general not just for individual miners  it is quite unbelievable to me that pools established by core developers to which also assets are tied to are in such a weak state
the pool situation is a direct result of the java backend.
java is not designed to scale quite well by simply adding memory to centralized hosts.
the solution is to port (start from scratch) the required burst protocol parts to a solid c++ backend and run the pools with that.
every single effort which is put into the java code base to stabilize the pool situation is in my eyes not worth it cause the next limit is already set.

what burst needs is a core functionality c++ api to host professional services.
this includes to act as full network peer (aquire and distribute the blockchain),
submit blocks to the network,
extract reward receipients from the chaindata,
send burst,
extract messages,
send messages
and to create addresses from private keys.

if this works the whole api functioniality for the asset exchange and marketplace may get added.
a intermediate solution may be to create a mysql backed partial blockchain with php access to take the pool load away from the java components on the pools. however, as far as i know is the core pool servercode still based on java.
another option to stay with java may be to add autonomous proxies to the pools which submit the round reward assignments to a hidden internal pool server which distributes the rewards. keeping them in sync may be much harder to code than starting to design the c based api from scratch.

a simple pool design may be this:
wallet (current or c based) --> distribute current block information to miner connect nodes
connect nodes --> provide block data to the miner, accept and verify shares --> submit miner results to central hidden node
hidden node --> distribute rewards, provide stats
load balancer --> knows throughput of shares for each node and assigns miners to nodes


I think this has more to do with the approach used by uray's pool software. Every single nonce sent is http posted to the wallet, which apparently doesn't handle that much load that well, and the wallet ends up also doing a lot of redundant calculations, as it doesn't save the mining related information between calls. If the pool checked results and only passed on the best ones, I don't think the situation would be as bad.

Under more sane conditions the built in api should be able to handle requests without issue, but if not the h2 database can be directly accessed by another program if the h2 AUTO_SERVER option is set.

sorry i've been off for couple of days, currently focusing on upgrading pool, i am sorry if there are a lot of problem before, its because vps provider is pushing me that i made too huge tcp connection, too many cpu time, too much traffic, so i ended up moving all of those pool to new dedicated server, with new software which should be more efficient and has better reward distribution, currently SG and EU already using new code and under testing, and also the front-end is still buggy but i believe back-end is working as intended right know

no, my pools does not post every single nonce received to wallet, its processed first in native C++, and only best nonce for current round is sent to wallet, and also mining info related APIs are cached, its not directly from wallet

but i believe another pool that use my source code doing direct send to wallet for every single nonce, its my guess anyway, because it is how it work in the very basic source code i made public

anyway q327K091, what do you mean pools are in major disarray ?
hero member
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SO... the price on this shitcoin STILL hasn't gone up, huh?  Is there anyone here still stupid enough to even be mining it?  I didn't bother to read any previous posts before typing this.  I'm glad I left it behind a long time ago.  I still have my 10,931 coins sitting on an exchange in case it ever does pop up.  Feel free to offer me 800 satoshis each coin for them.

sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.

exactly right.. meantime pools are in major disarray and SATA disks are expensive as heck 6T won't go down in price that easily.. so not just difficult to maintain but not that ultra cheap to mine, also it is very hard to hijack disk space of required magnitude so this is very anti-bot resilient coin

pool operators have to be cautious and provide steady as much as possible flow of deposits it is very important in general not just for individual miners  it is quite unbelievable to me that pools established by core developers to which also assets are tied to are in such a weak state
the pool situation is a direct result of the java backend.
java is not designed to scale quite well by simply adding memory to centralized hosts.
the solution is to port (start from scratch) the required burst protocol parts to a solid c++ backend and run the pools with that.
every single effort which is put into the java code base to stabilize the pool situation is in my eyes not worth it cause the next limit is already set.

what burst needs is a core functionality c++ api to host professional services.
this includes to act as full network peer (aquire and distribute the blockchain),
submit blocks to the network,
extract reward receipients from the chaindata,
send burst,
extract messages,
send messages
and to create addresses from private keys.

if this works the whole api functioniality for the asset exchange and marketplace may get added.
a intermediate solution may be to create a mysql backed partial blockchain with php access to take the pool load away from the java components on the pools. however, as far as i know is the core pool servercode still based on java.
another option to stay with java may be to add autonomous proxies to the pools which submit the round reward assignments to a hidden internal pool server which distributes the rewards. keeping them in sync may be much harder to code than starting to design the c based api from scratch.

a simple pool design may be this:
wallet (current or c based) --> distribute current block information to miner connect nodes
connect nodes --> provide block data to the miner, accept and verify shares --> submit miner results to central hidden node
hidden node --> distribute rewards, provide stats
load balancer --> knows throughput of shares for each node and assigns miners to nodes


I think this has more to do with the approach used by uray's pool software. Every single nonce sent is http posted to the wallet, which apparently doesn't handle that much load that well, and the wallet ends up also doing a lot of redundant calculations, as it doesn't save the mining related information between calls. If the pool checked results and only passed on the best ones, I don't think the situation would be as bad.

Under more sane conditions the built in api should be able to handle requests without issue, but if not the h2 database can be directly accessed by another program if the h2 AUTO_SERVER option is set.
legendary
Activity: 1792
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Regardless, still thinking about getting into burst. It'd be nice if there were more poc coins though, if burst starts spiraling the drain it's nice to have more options.

I think cloning + maintaining + adding new feature for POC coin is not as easy as normal PoW , PoS coin. I suspect if there is ever a clone of burst it would be just copy and paste. No new feature and it would probably be a scam coin because it's not an easy coin to maintain.

Also , it's not a good time for alt coin in general for this period of time.

If burst were to be release last year, i bet it would reach 5,000 - 10,000 sat.

If alt coin pick p next year , we will probably see some cloning but by then burst could probably be the market leader in PoC coin.

exactly right.. meantime pools are in major disarray and SATA disks are expensive as heck 6T won't go down in price that easily.. so not just difficult to maintain but not that ultra cheap to mine, also it is very hard to hijack disk space of required magnitude so this is very anti-bot resilient coin

pool operators have to be cautious and provide steady as much as possible flow of deposits it is very important in general not just for individual miners  it is quite unbelievable to me that pools established by core developers to which also assets are tied to are in such a weak state
the pool situation is a direct result of the java backend.
java is not designed to scale quite well by simply adding memory to centralized hosts.
the solution is to port (start from scratch) the required burst protocol parts to a solid c++ backend and run the pools with that.
every single effort which is put into the java code base to stabilize the pool situation is in my eyes not worth it cause the next limit is already set.

what burst needs is a core functionality c++ api to host professional services.
this includes to act as full network peer (aquire and distribute the blockchain),
submit blocks to the network,
extract reward receipients from the chaindata,
send burst,
extract messages,
send messages
and to create addresses from private keys.

if this works the whole api functioniality for the asset exchange and marketplace may get added.
a intermediate solution may be to create a mysql backed partial blockchain with php access to take the pool load away from the java components on the pools. however, as far as i know is the core pool servercode still based on java.


oo shoot,... this explains.. thanks however algo is solid and there is next protocol.. all great things..

so if hypothetically a clone arrived with core code base in C++ we are dead as cow in the heat... knowing this landscape by now clone will arrive.. and not just one.. because it has money making potential for data centers (in the futuristic sense..)

this by no means is a FUD but reality check . thanks for this post it is important...

@callmejack it is not like BURST has funds like BTC to engage in sophisticated network programming in native C++ .. I could be wrong.. and I want to be wrong.. I love UI interface.. (although much derived from next) it is just cool.. but winners will be core features at high speed and scalability.. more or less like dark in the stealth variety ...  anyways I stop here because there is absolutely 0 contribution from me outside some hand waving philosophy... mining continues.. for reason of next protocol and being first and high % of coins have been mined and people many are not selling , because it is a tedious process to mine especially here with expensive disks spinning and constant risk of their failure and that is FIAT
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