[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 581.

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Quote from: burstcoin on November 11, 2014, 04:04:13 AM

Quote from: fivebells on November 11, 2014, 02:41:57 AM

Quote from: mczarnek on November 10, 2014, 06:02:21 PM

The issue is let's say someone started working on a Proof of Work fork. If they wanted to fake a fork that was 100 blocks long, they would have to remove 50% of the mining power from the main chain to create this fork, this would take 100 blocks to complete however.. by which point in time the network would be 100 blocks into the future, so they'd constantly be playing catch up.

The question is, can you occasionally say fake a fork like this in say 5 minutes with a large enough percentage of network resources that the network accepts and uses to overwrite the 10 confirmations of a blockchain which cheats the system and overrides that calculation?

This is not "Nothing At Stake." That is an attack which can only work on a Proof of Stake currency (I know NXT has some defense against this.) The idea is that since the mining process verifying the blockchain only requires a commitment of the currency the blockchain is tracking, it costs you nothing to mine on all current forks, giving a forking attack a substantial advantage. That can't happen in a mining process which requires an economic commitment external to the blockchain. Buterin is the guy to read about this.

This isn't really a nothing at stake question, but more about the cost required to attempt a 51% attack if you have sufficient or close to sufficient hashrate. When attempting that, constructing an alternate chain starting from an earlier point in time can be done quickly since there is no need to actually wait out the deadlines.

Why is there not a need to wait out deadlines? Is it possible to force that and make blocks, and therefore chains containing them, that have not waited out the deadline invalid?

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Quote from: spookycoins on November 11, 2014, 12:56:29 PM

24-hour volume for BURST looks solid.

We're doing great, and this is only the beginning! Cheesy

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24-hour volume for BURST looks solid.

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Quote from: tex81 on November 11, 2014, 12:43:06 PM

hi
how to get this chart?

seems come from excel???

how to bind to a datasource?

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Quote from: Nevril on November 11, 2014, 09:48:18 AM

A quick note
Phase 2 has officially started!
It was a really smooth launch with a lot of new investors asking for shares during the transition from Phase 1 to Phase 2. These have been included in "The Believers" list.
Many of the booked shares have been sold, the remaining are waiting for payment which should come in the next few days.
The project has reached 1.8 BTCs in just two days which honestly has surpassed my initial expectations and I have to thank everyone who believed in BLTPS since the beginning and still is: we are set to grow thanks to you!

Plenty of shares are available for new investors so make sure you have a look at this project and, if you want, buy some!
The more the raised funds, the better BLTPS influence on the markets will be! (and the more you will be profiting, obviously!)

Update v1.1.0 - Phase 2

Burst Long Term Price Support project
(BLTPS)

Changelog
v1.1.0 - 11/nov/2014
Phase 2 has officially started
"How to Participate" section has been properly updated
Phase 2 details have been published
Part of the text has been rewritten and updated to match the current phase

I cant find the asset ID, am I missing something ?
EDIT: Sorry , I misunderstood the scheme..

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Quote from: lootz on November 11, 2014, 07:06:33 AM

What is the easiest fastest way to get this set up guys. I have an I7, 2 r90 Gpu's, 16gig ram, about 9TB combines in HDD space. Irontiga helped me alot by switching to linux but I am still having no luck. Is there an easy guide to get this done. I am new to the burst scene, I just wanna get hdd mining for now using windows if possible because then I get get my gpu's mining along with my asics. I appreciate the help. I am very active in the crypto community and can do webdev if the coin needs anything.

Here's a guide I wrote. I still have more to add to it, but it's still functional. It shows you how to use the C miner by Uray, and my pool at http://burst.ga Eventually I will be adding more to it, but I'm in the middle of a ton of other things right now and I don't have time.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Bc1LIG0vOYYW6FxgBHhQGjKqm0aWoSClkqaNJx17wWk/edit?usp=sharing

There you go!

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Quote from: Craige288 on November 10, 2014, 10:16:20 PM

Hi,

I know it's probably somewhere in the 700+ pages but can any tell me an easy way to send Burst to my wallet with the public key that's required for first time deposits? I just stupidly transferred a fair amount from Poloniex and lost it! I've looked around but can't seem to find any exchanges that allow you to include the public key for first transfers.

Also, just plotting 6TB at the moment with plenty of room for expansion. What is the minimum TB suggested at present to give a good chance of finding blocks?

Come join us at http://burst.ga !

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A quick note
Phase 2 has officially started!
It was a really smooth launch with a lot of new investors asking for shares during the transition from Phase 1 to Phase 2. These have been included in "The Believers" list.
Many of the booked shares have been sold, the remaining are waiting for payment which should come in the next few days.
The project has reached 1.8 BTCs in just two days which honestly has surpassed my initial expectations and I have to thank everyone who believed in BLTPS since the beginning and still is: we are set to grow thanks to you!

Plenty of shares are available for new investors so make sure you have a look at this project and, if you want, buy some!
The more the raised funds, the better BLTPS influence on the markets will be! (and the more you will be profiting, obviously!)

Update v1.1.0 - Phase 2

Burst Long Term Price Support project
(BLTPS)

Changelog
v1.1.0 - 11/nov/2014
Phase 2 has officially started
"How to Participate" section has been properly updated
Phase 2 details have been published
Part of the text has been rewritten and updated to match the current phase

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Quote from: uray on November 11, 2014, 06:57:14 AM

Quote from: burstcoin on November 11, 2014, 04:04:13 AM

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Never really tested it out or tried to calculate it, but I've always guessed that under uray's system, more smaller addresses work better. I figure that since it only takes one deadline per id per block, for any given scenario, if part of plots it is using were plotted to another id, you'd get credit for an additional deadline in addition to the same one as earler, leading to more segmentation always yielding more credit. This is why my pools take have target deadlines, and take all deadlines under it, although people generally don't seem to like deadline limits that well.

you might be correct, and also note that reward does not linear to the best deadline submitted on my system, and also reward distribution is "skewed", thats why it has different curve between US, EU and SG each of them tuned to favor different type of miners capacity.

on SG pool you might be get less payout if u are using 1000 accounts each of 1GB capacity instead of 1 account of 1 TB capacity, but on US pool its yet to be checked does thousands of small account result to better payout, while on EU pool you might not get payout at all by using 1000 accounts each with 1GB size

i dont see this as disadvantage for miners, because it give them options to choose pool, each pool can have unlimited different characteristic instead of just PPLNS, PPS or Prop like on conventional pool

So say if I have 100 TB space for mining, which one is good for SG pool ? 50-50 TB with 2 different accounts or 100 TB with single account ?

BTW, how to get customized burst ID ? Just noticed your burst ID in sig starting with BURST-URAY-xxxx Roll Eyes

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ok, thanks,
but what means this in detail.

For example:
CR.Shares
What is a share?
How do i increase this value? On what depends this?
....

Best Regars.
boba

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Quote from: bobafett on November 11, 2014, 08:18:38 AM

Hi,
i´, using a pool.

can anybody explain me the following rows on urays pool?

CR.Deadline
CR.Shares
AR.Deadline
AR.Shares

Best Regards.
boba

Just move your mouse over the tabs.
CR.Deadline = Current Round Best Deadline
CR.Shares = Current Round Share Value
AR.Deadline = All Round Best Deadline
AR.Shares = All Round Share Value

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Hi,
i´, using a pool.

can anybody explain me the following rows on urays pool?

CR.Deadline
CR.Shares
AR.Deadline
AR.Shares

Best Regards.
boba

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Quote from: uray on November 11, 2014, 06:57:14 AM

Quote from: burstcoin on November 11, 2014, 04:04:13 AM

...

Never really tested it out or tried to calculate it, but I've always guessed that under uray's system, more smaller addresses work better. I figure that since it only takes one deadline per id per block, for any given scenario, if part of plots it is using were plotted to another id, you'd get credit for an additional deadline in addition to the same one as earler, leading to more segmentation always yielding more credit. This is why my pools take have target deadlines, and take all deadlines under it, although people generally don't seem to like deadline limits that well.

you might be correct, and also note that reward does not linear to the best deadline submitted on my system, and also reward distribution is "skewed", thats why it has different curve between US, EU and SG each of them tuned to favor different type of miners capacity.

on SG pool you might be get less payout if u are using 1000 accounts each of 1GB capacity instead of 1 account of 1 TB capacity, but on US pool its yet to be checked does thousands of small account result to better payout, while on EU pool you might not get payout at all by using 1000 accounts each with 1GB size

i dont see this as disadvantage for miners, because it give them options to choose pool, each pool can have unlimited different characteristic instead of just PPLNS, PPS or Prop like on conventional pool

Yes I've seen the curves. I'm not trying to say that more but lower quality deadlines would yield more, but that your best deadline on average would still be of the same quality regardless of how much you segment things out. Your best deadline on average for a 1TB plot file to one account should be on average the same as your single best deadline for 1TB made of 10 plots to different ids of 100GB each, and on normal solo mining both scenarios should be able to mine the same amount of blocks. The difference only comes into play when using a pool that takes 1 best deadline for each id, since the single best deadline for each scenario should be of the same quality, but the segmented setup allows 9 extras to be tacked on along with it.

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Quote from: uray on November 11, 2014, 06:36:16 AM

Quote from: equipoise on November 11, 2014, 05:52:52 AM

^PM sent.

and also you can check the result by using this API :

http://compute.burstcoin.io:8109/burst?requestType=getDeadline&accountId=YourAccountNum&nonce=5889794&height=32848&target=3941683&scoop=427&gensig=db8cbd6f3b4347af33b6c5dbd014e88886b1534c471ba4437958111360a83697

since you dont provides your accountNum, replace the "...accountId=YourAccountNum..."

this API will re-create the plot from scratch based on the information you provided (just like on OP diagram), and then return the deadline

OK. Thank you. I'll calculate all my plots again. Maybe they are corrupted. I'm using Janror's cpu plotter V1.16.

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What is the easiest fastest way to get this set up guys. I have an I7, 2 r90 Gpu's, 16gig ram, about 9TB combines in HDD space. Irontiga helped me alot by switching to linux but I am still having no luck. Is there an easy guide to get this done. I am new to the burst scene, I just wanna get hdd mining for now using windows if possible because then I get get my gpu's mining along with my asics. I appreciate the help. I am very active in the crypto community and can do webdev if the coin needs anything.

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Quote from: burstcoin on November 11, 2014, 04:04:13 AM

...

Never really tested it out or tried to calculate it, but I've always guessed that under uray's system, more smaller addresses work better. I figure that since it only takes one deadline per id per block, for any given scenario, if part of plots it is using were plotted to another id, you'd get credit for an additional deadline in addition to the same one as earler, leading to more segmentation always yielding more credit. This is why my pools take have target deadlines, and take all deadlines under it, although people generally don't seem to like deadline limits that well.

you might be correct, and also note that reward does not linear to the best deadline submitted on my system, and also reward distribution is "skewed", thats why it has different curve between US, EU and SG each of them tuned to favor different type of miners capacity.

on SG pool you might be get less payout if u are using 1000 accounts each of 1GB capacity instead of 1 account of 1 TB capacity, but on US pool its yet to be checked does thousands of small account result to better payout, while on EU pool you might not get payout at all by using 1000 accounts each with 1GB size

i dont see this as disadvantage for miners, because it give them options to choose pool, each pool can have unlimited different characteristic instead of just PPLNS, PPS or Prop like on conventional pool

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Quote from: equipoise on November 11, 2014, 05:52:52 AM

^PM sent.

and also you can check the result by using this API :

http://compute.burstcoin.io:8109/burst?requestType=getDeadline&accountId=YourAccountNum&nonce=5889794&height=32848&target=3941683&scoop=427&gensig=db8cbd6f3b4347af33b6c5dbd014e88886b1534c471ba4437958111360a83697

since you dont provides your accountNum, replace the "...accountId=YourAccountNum..."

this API will re-create the plot from scratch based on the information you provided (just like on OP diagram), and then return the deadline

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Burst just pumped up to 35st on CoinGecko ranking guys!

http://puu.sh/cMeAu/532afae7ae.png

AD MAIORA!

Just to make some latin Grin

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^PM sent.

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