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Topic: [ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 584. (Read 2171059 times)

sr. member
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
Hi,

Does the Burst calculator (https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/calculator) the correct value ?

I have 10TB of plot files, using the calculator I should earn 4894 BTC per day, my last days was:

2014-11-10 = 3046.74180549 BURST or 0.005 BTC or 1.67 USD or 80 RUR
2014-11-09 = 3568.72379273 BURST or 0.005 BTC or 1.95 USD or 93 RUR
2014-11-08 = 2948.54032659 BURST or 0.004 BTC or 1.61 USD or 77 RUR
2014-11-07 = 1237.77490467 BURST or 0.002 BTC or 0.68 USD or 32 RUR
2014-11-06 = 3209.12890279 BURST or 0.005 BTC or 1.76 USD or 84 RUR
2014-11-05 = 2498.09233920 BURST or 0.004 BTC or 1.37 USD or 65 RUR

where is the problem ?

Thanks
newbie
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Happy to see Burst price rises again..it will never stop guys, this coin is the mining future.

I believe in it with 100% of my body and spirit, I'm sure it will be something very special..

Just believe on it guys Wink

Keep going burst!
sr. member
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How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

People tend to use plot and plot file fairly interchangeably, but the official definition is a plot is 262144 bytes, and a plot file may have many plots in it, staggered together to reduce disk seeking. The relevant part each block is always 64 bytes starting on a 64 byte boundary, so they can be staggered together as such.
hero member
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Quote from: mczarnek
Also, how much does Burst have to worry about 'Nothing at Stake'?  Basically you can try to mine on every fork you see?  If someone gets over 50% of the storage, then he can create a separate fork with very little effort that looks correct?  There is one way to sort of get around this but it can't be used to prevent new miners joining the network from joining the wrong fork. So, theoretically, given what is currently implemented.
It is no different than any other algorithm that has 50% value to determine the correct fork. If you own >50% of the Network power (or storage here), you can mine your own fork and publish it once it's ahead of the other fork. Nothing can prevent this in a decentralized system of this kind where the "majority" is right.

The issue is let's say someone started working on a Proof of Work fork.  If they wanted to fake a fork that was 100 blocks long, they would have to remove 50% of the mining power from the main chain to create this fork, this would take 100 blocks to complete however.. by which point in time the network would be 100 blocks into the future, so they'd constantly be playing catch up.

The question is, can you occasionally say fake a fork like this in say 5 minutes with a large enough percentage of network resources that the network accepts and uses to overwrite the 10 confirmations of a blockchain which cheats the system and overrides that calculation?
newbie
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How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

Plot is 256kb. Every block a random portion of plot (1/4096) is used for mining (I'm simplifying things a bit).
The more plots you have the more chances of finding the best deadline. Generating plots 'on the fly' is very CPU-intensive, so the coin is ASIC-resistant.


Interesting... thanks.

Also, how much does Burst have to worry about 'Nothing at Stake'?  Basically you can try to mine on every fork you see?  If someone gets over 50% of the storage, then he can create a separate fork with very little effort that looks correct?  There is one way to sort of get around this but it can't be used to prevent new miners joining the network from joining the wrong fork. So, theoretically, given what is currently implemented.
It is no different than any other algorithm that has 50% value to determine the correct fork. If you own >50% of the Network power (or storage here), you can mine your own fork and publish it once it's ahead of the other fork. Nothing can prevent this in a decentralized system of this kind where the "majority" is right.
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Burst Long Term Price Support project

Quick update
Shares counter - Last updated 10/nov/2014
Share value: 0.01 BTC - Sold Shares: 170 - Next goal: 250
Booked Shares (temporary, 'till orders fulfilled): min 50 - Max 130

To the Phase 1 investors who have booked some shares, please make sure you read your PMs on Burstforum. You'll find all the instructions to effectively buy them.

To those willing to invest, all needed info can be found in the official thread on Burstforum Smiley

Just want to give my +1 support for this project.  A good option to accumulate Burst in addition to mining.
sr. member
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You people are still trying to make this shitcoin work?  Wow you're stupid.  I got out of it weeks ago and am far happier without the stress of this crapcoin on my mind.

As long as you keep posting, it means you didn't "get out of it" and you're the stupid one.
But by all means, do go on. It's nice to have a clown around.


m3 but why are you wasting your time with an ass like timk225.
are months that are throwing shit on burstcoin .... I do not know why ... but he's doing it .. certainly not me ...
I know the real value of burstcoin ... and the words of timk225 not scare me.

Wise words.. +1 Wink
hero member
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How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

Plot is 256kb. Every block a random portion of plot (1/4096) is used for mining (I'm simplifying things a bit).
The more plots you have the more chances of finding the best deadline. Generating plots 'on the fly' is very CPU-intensive, so the coin is ASIC-resistant.


Interesting... thanks.

Also, how much does Burst have to worry about 'Nothing at Stake'?  Basically you can try to mine on every fork you see?  If someone gets over 50% of the storage, then he can create a separate fork with very little effort that looks correct?  There is one way to sort of get around this but it can't be used to prevent new miners joining the network from joining the wrong fork. So, theoretically, given what is currently implemented.
member
Activity: 108
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Burst Long Term Price Support project

Quick update
Shares counter - Last updated 10/nov/2014
Share value: 0.01 BTC - Sold Shares: 170 - Next goal: 250
Booked Shares (temporary, 'till orders fulfilled): min 50 - Max 130

To the Phase 1 investors who have booked some shares, please make sure you read your PMs on Burstforum. You'll find all the instructions to effectively buy them.

To those willing to invest, all needed info can be found in the official thread on Burstforum Smiley
newbie
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m3 but why are you wasting your time with an ass like timk225.
are months that are throwing shit on burstcoin .... I do not know why ... but he's doing it .. certainly not me ...
I know the real value of burstcoin ... and the words of timk225 not scare me.

Not only burstcoin, he copy-pasted the same message in other coin thread. Just trolling I guess.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

Plot is 256kb. Every block a random portion of plot (1/4096) is used for mining (I'm simplifying things a bit).
The more plots you have the more chances of finding the best deadline. Generating plots 'on the fly' is very CPU-intensive, so the coin is ASIC-resistant.
legendary
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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
-ANNOUNCEMENT-


Right now http://burst.ga pool is on the new balancer we setup, and DNS records are updated, This means that miners may have to restart their miners, but then you shouldn't have to ever again.

The pool is back being a failover right now, but it's not in it's permanent final setup quite yet, but we can definitely take more miners right now, and no more restarting should be necessary.

So, let's do it!!

Thank you!
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1042
https://locktrip.com/?refId=40964
You people are still trying to make this shitcoin work?  Wow you're stupid.  I got out of it weeks ago and am far happier without the stress of this crapcoin on my mind.

As long as you keep posting, it means you didn't "get out of it" and you're the stupid one.
But by all means, do go on. It's nice to have a clown around.


m3 but why are you wasting your time with an ass like timk225.
are months that are throwing shit on burstcoin .... I do not know why ... but he's doing it .. certainly not me ...
I know the real value of burstcoin ... and the words of timk225 not scare me.
member
Activity: 108
Merit: 10
How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

Plots are as large as you want them to be. Their size isn't related to ASIC resistance or whatever.
ASIC resistance is basically guaranteed by how the protocol works. Even if something that goes, let's say, 10K faster than any CPU is built, it will still be nothing compared to a pre-created plot on an hard drive.
hero member
Activity: 527
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How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.

The way I understand it is to think of plotsize as "hashrate".

The bigger the plots you have are the larger is your "hashrate". ASIC resistance comes from the algorithm, not the plotsize.

Im sure theres a better way of explaining though, Im still new to all this.
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 503
How large are plots?  I thought the idea was they were hundreds of GB large.. but first post seems to indicate 262144 bytes?  I was thinking plots were something like 200 GB.. large plots would be good for ASIC resistance.. and could probably be used to lure over some litecoiners who recently lose that advantage.  I would target devs or various coins and people who have made a difference first instead of just announcing it to the community as a whole though.
member
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Ok so to join a pool i need 1 burstcoin and i went to one of the faucets to get some coins to join one of the pools listed but it gives me the error:

There was an error processing the request. Please ensure the address entered is correct.

I have tried solo mining with about 3 1/2tb but that wont get me far im sure but even then idk if that will work as my address since it isnt seen as a valid address. i saw others mention this but after getting sent some coins it activated the account so can someone send a few my way to get my acct activated??

 BURST-6LC2-X8T4-AWLT-CWJ63

thats what my wallet says my address is and its fully updated and downloaded the whole chain already but i have 0 coins.

on a side note how do i change the plot size in the plot maker app?? When i use anything higher then 1000 it just closes. I KNOW FOR A FACT I HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES. This is on a dell t610 with 48gb of ram and 2 8 core procs and 3 1/2 tb of hdd space. 2 hdd's are 1tb drives and it ran all weekend and hasnt even finished half of the plot making on them....its ridiculously slow. here is my batch file config:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate xxxxacctidremovedbutiinsertitherexxxx 0 400000 1000 2

any ideas?? if i change -xmx100m to 2000m or 3000m or anything higher it will not run. If i change the number at the end from 1000 to 2000 or 3000 or 4000 or anything else it yet again will not run. If i change both numbers to the same number at the same time it will not run. It will only run at the numbers shown and maybe lower idk because i dont want to go lower i want to make the sizes larger. thanks in advance.

I'm sending you a few bursts to activate that account, after getting them, any operation will activate it, for example changing the burst account name & info (1 Burst fee).
Then you have to pay another Burst to "subscribe" to the pool you've chosen.
About plotting, use Janror's if you are on windows. It is way easier and faster.
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If a wallet is hacked and bursts are taken then it's a loss.  Transactions cannot be reversed.  What about assets?  Can the asset issuer to work with the asset holder if it's proven that wallet is hacked?
sr. member
Activity: 387
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Ok so to join a pool i need 1 burstcoin and i went to one of the faucets to get some coins to join one of the pools listed but it gives me the error:

There was an error processing the request. Please ensure the address entered is correct.

I have tried solo mining with about 3 1/2tb but that wont get me far im sure but even then idk if that will work as my address since it isnt seen as a valid address. i saw others mention this but after getting sent some coins it activated the account so can someone send a few my way to get my acct activated??

 BURST-6LC2-X8T4-AWLT-CWJ63

thats what my wallet says my address is and its fully updated and downloaded the whole chain already but i have 0 coins.

on a side note how do i change the plot size in the plot maker app?? When i use anything higher then 1000 it just closes. I KNOW FOR A FACT I HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES. This is on a dell t610 with 48gb of ram and 2 8 core procs and 3 1/2 tb of hdd space. 2 hdd's are 1tb drives and it ran all weekend and hasnt even finished half of the plot making on them....its ridiculously slow. here is my batch file config:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate xxxxacctidremovedbutiinsertitherexxxx 0 400000 1000 2

any ideas?? if i change -xmx100m to 2000m or 3000m or anything higher it will not run. If i change the number at the end from 1000 to 2000 or 3000 or 4000 or anything else it yet again will not run. If i change both numbers to the same number at the same time it will not run. It will only run at the numbers shown and maybe lower idk because i dont want to go lower i want to make the sizes larger. thanks in advance.
sr. member
Activity: 456
Merit: 250
Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
Hello,

how I can undestand how much time take the miner to read all my plot files ?

I'm using the uray's miner .1 R4 Linux version and I have 5 USB3 DISK connected ti the Linux server.

Thanks

Fabrizio

Watch it Smiley You should see a difference in resource consumption.... Not sure tho, never used it.... Will try it tomorrow Grin.... But the miner should also say that it's finished

The output is like this:

plot read done. 103739847626845317_11232533_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_16309766_392000_392000 = 463616 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_57100011_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_5429997_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_900001_372000_4000 = 376000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_30687149_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_4707930_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_50100001_400000_400000 = 472320 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_2924006_400000_4000 = 404000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_33791494_400000_4000 = 404000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_13232537_427224_427224 = 526768 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_60900016_500000_500000 = 606784 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_17398849_500000_500000 = 606784 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_15811765_500000_500000 = 606784 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_1572002_552000_4000 = 556000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_31587152_600000_600000 = 675712 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_11632534_600000_600000 = 675712 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_17998851_600000_600000 = 675712 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_55100009_800000_4000 = 804000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_200001_700000_4000 = 704000 nonces
MV67-UXZF-DSKX-2G6W4 dl:2 days 00:02:04 n:23932368
plot read done. 103739847626845317_10462003_700000_700000 = 810176 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_13659762_800000_800000 = 879104 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_2124004_800000_800000 = 879104 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_12432536_800000_800000 = 879104 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_28103002_984141_7629 = 991770 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_58900014_1000000_4000 = 1004000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_14459763_900000_900000 = 1013568 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_23118857_984141_984141 = 1050778 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_22118856_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_57500012_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_59900015_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_56100010_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_21118859_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_29087144_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_20118854_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_3707929_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_53100007_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_54100008_1000000_1000000 = 1082496 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_62600018_1200000_4000 = 1204000 nonces
submitting nonce 23932368 for MV67-UXZF-DSKX-2G6W4
plot read done. 103739847626845317_61400017_1200000_4000 = 1204000 nonces
{"result":"success","requestProcessingTime":203,"deadline":172924}
confirmed dl. for MV67-UXZF-DSKX-2G6W4 : 2 days 00:02:04
plot read done. 103739847626845317_63800019_1200000_4000 = 1204000 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_18598852_1200000_1200000 = 1285888 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_9262002_1200000_1200000 = 1285888 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_40799466_1400000_1400000 = 1489280 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_7262001_2000000_2000000 = 2099456 nonces
plot read done. 103739847626845317_24103001_4000000_4000000 = 4067840 nonces

I cann't see any infos about plots reading time


check debug: true in conf file

I have just configure the debug as true on config file:

 {
    "poolUrl" : "cryptomining.farm",
    "submissionMaxDelay" : 30,
    "submissionMaxRetry" : 3,
    "socketTimeout" : 60,
    "maxBufferSizeMB" : 512,
    "Debug" : true,
    "plots" :
    [
   "/mnt/USB1/burst-pool-miner/plots/",   
   "/mnt/USB2/burst-pool-miner/plots/",   
   "/mnt/USB3/",   
   "/mnt/USB4/",   
   "/mnt/USB5/plots/",   
   "/NFS/MINARE",
   "/NFS/MINER"
   ]
 }
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