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Burstcoin, could you please post your GPU plotter?  I know it's incomplete, but I would love to take a look at it.

First implementation:
http://pastebin.com/UccPBr4B

Slower than dcct's plotter.
Takes an array as a parameter of workgroupsize * 262160 bytes. Expects the address/nonce as last 16 bytes of each 262160 byte chunk, and the 262144 before that are written to as output for that plot.
Seems to work ok.

Second attempt:
http://pastebin.com/pQAhvbc2

Don't know if it works or not since it's too slow.
Parameters: array of 16 bytes * workgroupsize, with address/nonce filled in each 16 bytes. array 262144 * workgroupsize for output. local buffer of size 32768 bytes
I can't figure out why it's slower. Some restructuring was done to avoid conditionals, and a rotating buffer was used to read from faster local memory instead of hammering global. The problem seems to be writing the results to global memory, since commenting that out makes it run fast, but obviously won't give correct results.

Any input would be appreciated, since I'm about ready to give up on making a gpu plotter.
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Faucet dev here, I should have a dice game available later today
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People asked why I sold my 14334 BURST coins at 698 satoshis only a couple days ago.  I wasn't sure it was the smart move at the moment, but now I see it was.  This is why.  I have seen this pattern in many coins in the past year and a half.  They start with a nice run up in price because everyone is excited about the new thing.  Then one of two things happen.  Either the price wavers around a bit and climbs again, like DOGE and Litecoin, or once it starts dropping it just keeps on dropping and never regains its former glory, like most coins.

BURST may have a unique algorithm and mining method, but the real question here, where long term profits are concerned, is "What can BURST coin do that many other coins can't?", including Bitcoin.

And the answer is - nothing.  Aside from its mining method there is nothing special or unique about BURST that should give anyone a reason to think it has any long term potential whatsoever.

Not to talk it down, as I want to mine it and make lots of money off of it, but this is the reality of the crypto coin world.

Having said all that, I am only here for the profit, and if I can't make money mining this coin, then it is useless to me.  I don't give a damn about anything else that it can or can't do or anything unique about it.

And in my side business of home computer repair, I will be able to sell my 3 TB drives off within a few months to people who need new(er) hard drives, and for more than I paid for them, so it is impossible for me to lose on this deal.  The only question is how much $$$ can I make off this coin.




Don't forget that burst has probably the lowest energy use of all coins.
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I have voted and may i ask do we need to promote BURST to Chinese?

what we need most is thousands of miners now, not enough miners, the price will not grow, even at current price, everyone can make great profit with hdd, if have 10X , 100X miners then now, then everyone can mine little burst, like, if you can only mine 1burst /TB/day, then you will never sell the burst at current price, and with enough miners. adversiting team will be large enough , don't to worry can't sell out.
sr. member
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Burstcoin, could you please post your GPU plotter?  I know it's incomplete, but I would love to take a look at it.
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I have voted and may i ask do we need to promote BURST to Chinese?
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Done a massiva FAQ, thanks to the dev:
burstcoin.info/faq.php
sr. member
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Hix
legendary
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People asked why I sold my 14334 BURST coins at 698 satoshis only a couple days ago.  I wasn't sure it was the smart move at the moment, but now I see it was.  This is why.  I have seen this pattern in many coins in the past year and a half.  They start with a nice run up in price because everyone is excited about the new thing.  Then one of two things happen.  Either the price wavers around a bit and climbs again, like DOGE and Litecoin, or once it starts dropping it just keeps on dropping and never regains its former glory, like most coins.

BURST may have a unique algorithm and mining method, but the real question here, where long term profits are concerned, is "What can BURST coin do that many other coins can't?", including Bitcoin.

And the answer is - nothing.  Aside from its mining method there is nothing special or unique about BURST that should give anyone a reason to think it has any long term potential whatsoever.

Not to talk it down, as I want to mine it and make lots of money off of it, but this is the reality of the crypto coin world.

Having said all that, I am only here for the profit, and if I can't make money mining this coin, then it is useless to me.  I don't give a damn about anything else that it can or can't do or anything unique about it.

And in my side business of home computer repair, I will be able to sell my 3 TB drives off within a few months to people who need new(er) hard drives, and for more than I paid for them, so it is impossible for me to lose on this deal.  The only question is how much $$$ can I make off this coin.




You mega dumper... Ppl do not care about your 14334 BURST  Grin sold and out.
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https://bmy.guide
so i explained the plotting and nonce's and non overlapping to my totally frustrated and confused friend and he said it was magical and a perfect way to understand it... sharing so maybe it would help someone else understand easier

its in noob language.. just so he could grasp the concept.  hope it helps someone else as well.  

http://piratepad.net/u05YCGsdwd

How do you calculate where to start the next file?

add the second number to the first one
13650942247580182448_0_190000_1000_4
the second one would look like this
13650942247580182448_190000_190000_1000_4
and the third would look like this
13650942247580182448_380000_190000_1000_4
if you kept using chunks of 190000

EDIT copy the files names into here https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/overlap  if you are still not sure
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so i explained the plotting and nonce's and non overlapping to my totally frustrated and confused friend and he said it was magical and a perfect way to understand it... sharing so maybe it would help someone else understand easier

its in noob language.. just so he could grasp the concept.  hope it helps someone else as well.  

http://piratepad.net/u05YCGsdwd

How do you calculate where to start the next file?
newbie
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Plenty of CN crazy miners in!They will ruthless destroy the coin!
legendary
Activity: 1036
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https://bmy.guide
so i explained the plotting and nonce's and non overlapping to my totally frustrated and confused friend and he said it was magical and a perfect way to understand it... sharing so maybe it would help someone else understand easier

its in noob language.. just so he could grasp the concept.  hope it helps someone else as well.  

http://piratepad.net/u05YCGsdwd
hero member
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People asked why I sold my 14334 BURST coins at 698 satoshis only a couple days ago.  I wasn't sure it was the smart move at the moment, but now I see it was.  This is why.  I have seen this pattern in many coins in the past year and a half.  They start with a nice run up in price because everyone is excited about the new thing.  Then one of two things happen.  Either the price wavers around a bit and climbs again, like DOGE and Litecoin, or once it starts dropping it just keeps on dropping and never regains its former glory, like most coins.

BURST may have a unique algorithm and mining method, but the real question here, where long term profits are concerned, is "What can BURST coin do that many other coins can't?", including Bitcoin.

And the answer is - nothing.  Aside from its mining method there is nothing special or unique about BURST that should give anyone a reason to think it has any long term potential whatsoever.

Not to talk it down, as I want to mine it and make lots of money off of it, but this is the reality of the crypto coin world.

Having said all that, I am only here for the profit, and if I can't make money mining this coin, then it is useless to me.  I don't give a damn about anything else that it can or can't do or anything unique about it.

And in my side business of home computer repair, I will be able to sell my 3 TB drives off within a few months to people who need new(er) hard drives, and for more than I paid for them, so it is impossible for me to lose on this deal.  The only question is how much $$$ can I make off this coin.





Hurry rape the fuck of out this coin as many others do to any new coin. That's why I am sure crypto won't last, be sure to milk every last cent and then sell those half burnt out hard drives to other suckers you computer repair guys always do.
sr. member
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The real question here, where long term profits are concerned, is "What can BURST coin do that many other coins can't?", including Bitcoin.

I don't know the mining algorithm alone makes it pretty promising.  It's potentially much more democratic (you could probably make a drive which is optimized for burst look-ups, but it wouldn't be orders of magnitude more efficient than commodity drives) and far less environmentally destructive.

burstcoin: Thanks for the info.  Just want to make sure I have the space calculation correct, then.  I ran

Code:
sh ./run_generate.sh  4265424399602217743 7846768 8191 4

That should result in the space required being 7846768*256kb = 2008772608kb=1.9TB, right?
hero member
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People asked why I sold my 14334 BURST coins at 698 satoshis only a couple days ago.  I wasn't sure it was the smart move at the moment, but now I see it was.  This is why.  I have seen this pattern in many coins in the past year and a half.  They start with a nice run up in price because everyone is excited about the new thing.  Then one of two things happen.  Either the price wavers around a bit and climbs again, like DOGE and Litecoin, or once it starts dropping it just keeps on dropping and never regains its former glory, like most coins.

BURST may have a unique algorithm and mining method, but the real question here, where long term profits are concerned, is "What can BURST coin do that many other coins can't?", including Bitcoin.

And the answer is - nothing.  Aside from its mining method there is nothing special or unique about BURST that should give anyone a reason to think it has any long term potential whatsoever.

Not to talk it down, as I want to mine it and make lots of money off of it, but this is the reality of the crypto coin world.

Having said all that, I am only here for the profit, and if I can't make money mining this coin, then it is useless to me.  I don't give a damn about anything else that it can or can't do or anything unique about it.

And in my side business of home computer repair, I will be able to sell my 3 TB drives off within a few months to people who need new(er) hard drives, and for more than I paid for them, so it is impossible for me to lose on this deal.  The only question is how much $$$ can I make off this coin.



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Cloud storage for this doesn't seem to be fast enough and runs into errors constantly when trying to use it (even when using a fast internet connection).

That aside, I'd highly suggest against buying a bunch of HDs to mine this coin guys. If you look at the price on C-Cex, it's being held up by twigs. There are so many sell orders, everyone could sell now and completely strip the price and still have plenty of Burst leftover. It's actually pretty amazing there can be THAT many sell orders and the price hasn't bombed yet.

Putting that aside, this is the only PoC coin that I know of at the moment which makes a return on HDs very small if this coin doesn't remain profitable. There is also plenty of storage 'in queue' right now, meaning people with massive capacities waiting for their storage options to plot before they can start mining. I think that's something that isn't reflected in current difficulty or the market. I was considering getting in on it too, which means other people have and currently are still waiting on their HDs to plot. I'm sure plenty of people with 10s of 20s of TBs plotting as well.

It'll be interesting to see where this coin is in a month and PoC, but right now, don't jump on the hype train.
don't advise those dumper not to dump any more, it is not wise, at current difficulty, they can also get lots of profits., when difficulty raise until 1000bust/TB/month, price will raise with nature, for long term, i would like these miners dump their coin now and let investors hold it, it is stupid to advise miners not dump the coin because of it will low the burst price, if every miners hold their coins for a high price and not sell, then when burst raised to a high price, all miners will dump, that is the real bad, SO, STOP ADVISING MINERS NOT TO DUMP, I LIKE THEM DUMP Grin
sr. member
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Cloud storage for this doesn't seem to be fast enough and runs into errors constantly when trying to use it (even when using a fast internet connection).

That aside, I'd highly suggest against buying a bunch of HDs to mine this coin guys. If you look at the price on C-Cex, it's being held up by twigs. There are so many sell orders, everyone could sell now and completely strip the price and still have plenty of Burst leftover. It's actually pretty amazing there can be THAT many sell orders and the price hasn't bombed yet.

Putting that aside, this is the only PoC coin that I know of at the moment which makes a return on HDs very small if this coin doesn't remain profitable. There is also plenty of storage 'in queue' right now, meaning people with massive capacities waiting for their storage options to plot before they can start mining. I think that's something that isn't reflected in current difficulty or the market. I was considering getting in on it too, which means other people have and currently are still waiting on their HDs to plot. I'm sure plenty of people with 10s of 20s of TBs plotting as well.

It'll be interesting to see where this coin is in a month and PoC, but right now, don't jump on the hype train.
sr. member
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Repeat question... the thread is moving so fast, it's getting buried: Just got burst running.  I chose parameters to run_generate.sh which will fill the drive completely.  Does the generator still delete the generated file if it runs out of space?
Yes, the generator has not been updated, so that bug still exists.
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Pretty sweet coin.  Just picked up a 4tb drive.
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