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Topic: [ANN][CACH] CACHeCoin released based on scrypt-jane - page 78. (Read 224425 times)

newbie
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5 MH/S of scrypt hashing power = ? on cache's scrypt jane?

i can get around 1Mh/s on jane where before i was getting 2.7 on scrypt. 
the biggest difference that temp's were around 10% higher mining CACH...
hero member
Activity: 819
Merit: 1000
5 MH/S of scrypt hashing power = ? on cache's scrypt jane?

Try and find out. depends on more than just a simple formula. Mostly it depends on your gpu
full member
Activity: 140
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5 MH/S of scrypt hashing power = ? on cache's scrypt jane?
hero member
Activity: 819
Merit: 1000
Right, I understand now.

So when GPU mining becomes unprofitable / impossible and everyone reverts to CPU mining, I guess the difficulty will drop dramatically.  At this stage will it be anywhere near as profitable to CPU mine vs what GPU mining is now?

yes. If not even more
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253
Right, I understand now.

So when GPU mining becomes unprofitable / impossible and everyone reverts to CPU mining, I guess the difficulty will drop dramatically.  At this stage will it be anywhere near as profitable to CPU mine vs what GPU mining is now?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
Once we reach N factor 14 I think we will effectively be out of GPU range for most of the current ones. I think it is safe to say that ASIC technology is not yet capable of reaching the numbers required to mine this coin in the near future.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 251
So the memory limitation is only with GPUs?
No.

I mean will the memory limitation not apply to CPU mining eventually?

It will. But scrypt-jane-N used in the proof of work basically need some amount of RAM for every thread that calculates it. So for CPU's you need one chunk of ram for every core and considering better desktop computers now have usually between 8-12 cores and between 16-32 GB RAM, you have about 2-3 GB per computing core available.
With GPU and its massive parallelism (hundreds of computation units/threads running at once), and lesser amount of RAM (1-4 GB typical), you have usually only about 10-30 MB per computing core. Now we have reached the phase when GPUs still work, but because of the memory requirements you can't utilize all the cores in the GPU (this may perhaps need to modify the mining programs to be able to handle this situation). So GPU's will be usable for a while, but around Nfactor 14 or 15, it will become more efficient to mine with CPU.

At Nfactor around 20, it may be necessary to mine only with some of the CPU cores to cope with increasing RAM demands (with current CPUs). But I expect that around 2017-2018 we may have better CPUs and more RAM, so perhaps that won't be necessary.
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253
So the memory limitation is only with GPUs?
No.

I mean will the memory limitation not apply to CPU mining eventually?
newbie
Activity: 56
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interesting coin and worth mining.

anyone using R7990 and can share config?




newbie
Activity: 53
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Connected to P2Pool, has a difficulty of 0?

It is accepting shares 77/0, 3/0, 11/0, but no WU/m, no A, no R, just increasing HW

How can I verify my P2Pool shares are being submitted?

My address does not show up on Payouts section of P2Pool.

CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM

Config for 2x R9 290x

Code:
{
"pools" : [
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://p2pool.cachecoin.org:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://185.8.164.16:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://cach.cryptoprojects.eu:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://p2cache.syware.de:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://87.103.197.163:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
},
{
"url" : "stratum+tcp://q30.qhor.net:8336",
"user" : "CGpHp7FPPggQ5uf4cHj5hQF6kbSiL3JAbM+0.00087310",
"pass" : "x"
}
],
"scrypt-jane" : true,
"sj-nfmin" : "4",
"sj-nfmax" : "30",
"sj-time" : "1388949883",
"gpu-threads" : "1",
"worksize" : "128,128",
"intensity" : "13,13",
"gpu-engine" : "1029,1029",
"gpu-memclock" : "1500,1500",
"gpu-fan" : "60-100,60-100",
"gpu-powertune" : "20,20",
"thread-concurrency" : "24500,24500",
"vectors" : "1,1",
"lookup-gap" : "2,2",
"gpu-memdiff" : "0,0",
"gpu-vddc" : "0,0",
"auto-fan" : true,
"failover-only" : true,
"no-restart" : true,
"temp-cutoff" : "95,95",
"temp-overheat" : "93,93",
"temp-target" : "75,75",
"api-listen" : true,
"api-port" : "4028",
"expiry" : "1",
"failover-only" : true,
"gpu-dyninterval" : "7",
"gpu-platform" : "0",
"hotplug" : "5",
"log" : "5",
"no-pool-disable" : true,
"queue" : "1",
"scan-time" : "1",
"temp-hysteresis" : "3",
"shares" : "0"
}

Please advise.  Not sure if mining efforts are being acknowledged or not.

Your 290x should still be able to run at I 19 or 20 with 0 hardware errors. How many kh/s are you getting?
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
cgminer.exe --scrypt-jane --sj-nfmin 4 --sj-nfmax 30 --sj-time 1388949883 -o stratum+tcp://cach.catcoin.cz:3333 -u USERNAME.1 -p PASS --shaders 1792 -I 20 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2 --thread-concurrency 24000 --gpu-engine 1125 --gpu-memclock 1500 --temp-target 78


Why won't this work? I'm using cgminer 3.7.2, but I tried it in 3.7.3 and ybcminer, it just won't work Sad can anyone help me set this up? (I'm running a 7950)


EDIT: I thought I had downloaded the sj version of cgminer, but I accidentally clicked on the mp version instead.

EDIT#2: So my computer runs it well for about 5 minutes, but then it crashes, every time I run it. The driver crashes, and I can't mine cachecoins using the sj cgminer. Can anyone help with this problem?

You are using the latest miner available from https://sites.google.com/site/rmdavidson/    correct?

Given the recent N factor change you may require retuning of your card, your usual scrypt parameters may not be optimal any longer.

An easy fix is to drop your Intensity level, however several users have recommended starting from scratch with your tuning.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 505
So the memory limitation is only with GPUs?
No.
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253
So the memory limitation is only with GPUs?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
Wow, really!?  That's crazy!  So how is anyone going to mine it, even on CPU, when the memory requirements exceed a reasonable amount?

The CPU will still mine it, it will simply become a CPU only coin at that point.
hero member
Activity: 819
Merit: 1000

next nfactors from OP:
Time:   1394192763   7 Mar 2014   N: 4096   Nfactor: 11
Time:   1397338491   13 Apr 2014   N: 8192   Nfactor: 12
Time:   1401532795   31 May 2014   N: 16384   Nfactor: 13
Time:   1405727099   19 Jun 2014   N: 32768   Nfactor: 14

My biggest stake was 8 CACH. My latest stake was around 1 CACH, on the network there are a lot smaller stakes though.
It depends on coin age and the number of CACH you have.

So you're basically saying that after the 13th of April GPU mining will be unprofitable?

So let's say I have 30 Cache and they're brand new, if I POS mine for a week, what is my likely return?

Quite unlikely you'll get a stake straight after 7 days. It might take weeks
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253
Wow, really!?  That's crazy!  So how is anyone going to mine it, even on CPU, when the memory requirements exceed a reasonable amount?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 505
So you're basically saying that after the 13th of April GPU mining will be unprofitable?

So let's say I have 30 Cache and they're brand new, if I POS mine for a week, what is my likely return?

Not unprofitable but impossible. The first GPUs with low memory already stopped working with CACH at Nfactor 10. Next will come at 11 and 12 will kill the last remaining GPUs on the net.

This is a stake of 33 CACH:
http://explorer.cachecoin.org/block/48bdf969902f1d559b9de5b077137d149a62b028185f36d0887f7ed4ee0ab410
Not sure on the coin age, but I guess after 7 days you are somewhere at 0.03 CACH maybe?
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253

next nfactors from OP:
Time:   1394192763   7 Mar 2014   N: 4096   Nfactor: 11
Time:   1397338491   13 Apr 2014   N: 8192   Nfactor: 12
Time:   1401532795   31 May 2014   N: 16384   Nfactor: 13
Time:   1405727099   19 Jun 2014   N: 32768   Nfactor: 14

My biggest stake was 8 CACH. My latest stake was around 1 CACH, on the network there are a lot smaller stakes though.
It depends on coin age and the number of CACH you have.

So you're basically saying that after the 13th of April GPU mining will be unprofitable?

So let's say I have 30 Cache and they're brand new, if I POS mine for a week, what is my likely return?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 505
Thanks for that info vertoe, it's much appreciated!

So how often do the nfactor changes happen?

Also, how much do you earn from proof of stake mining?

next nfactors from OP:
Time:   1394192763   7 Mar 2014   N: 4096   Nfactor: 11
Time:   1397338491   13 Apr 2014   N: 8192   Nfactor: 12
Time:   1401532795   31 May 2014   N: 16384   Nfactor: 13
Time:   1405727099   19 Jun 2014   N: 32768   Nfactor: 14

My biggest stake was 8 CACH. My latest stake was around 1 CACH, on the network there are a lot smaller stakes though.
It depends on coin age and the number of CACH you have.
sr. member
Activity: 1064
Merit: 253
Thanks for that info vertoe, it's much appreciated!

So how often do the nfactor changes happen?

Also, how much do you earn from proof of stake mining?
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