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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 151. (Read 1151252 times)

legendary
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

I just went back to find the number of addresses you wanted to check.

Oh, crap.
newbie
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clamd getstakinginfo command gives me an output (among other things) of... "expectedtime" : 79426, can anyone tell me what this means?
legendary
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If I understand correctly, to claim CLAMS I only need to provide a signed message from the respective BTC or DOGE address. Is that correct?

If so, could you please tell me the command to use with the server daemon for doing this? I can automate the process for all my addresses. Basically I wanted to know if CLAMS could be claimed without revealing the private key of the respective BTC or DOGE address?

There's no need to sign anything. All you need to do is let the CLAM wallet associate your addresses (which you hold the private keys for) with funds that were sent as part of the initial distribution.

If you just have a few wallets I believe you can import each into the client individually. It's basically a rescan of the blockchain to associate the addresses in the wallet with existing transactions.

If you have a bunch of privkeys from multiple wallets, you can import each key into the client using the RPC importprivkey command.

This is done 100% locally - no peers or any other third parties are queried in order to match against your keys. It's not until you actually use the funds in a transaction that the network sees any action.

(Do you run some sort of exchange, online wallet, or other service which holds user's funds? Are we about to see a big dig?...)
hero member
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CLAM Developer
Thanks for the help.

If I understand correctly, to claim CLAMS I only need to provide a signed message from the respective BTC or DOGE address. Is that correct?

If so, could you please tell me the command to use with the server daemon for doing this? I can automate the process for all my addresses. Basically I wanted to know if CLAMS could be claimed without revealing the private key of the respective BTC or DOGE address?

There is no need to 'reveal' the privKey, however it must be used to sign a transaction - much as how a DOGE/LTC/BTC transaction would be signed.  
You could probably manually do so via the rawtx commands, but I would point you towards dooglus for that.  

It is a very sensitive potentially dangerous process, and he would undoubtedly be able to better inform you with all of the caveats that apply.  
  

 

If you feel comfortable doing so yourself (which I doubt, given that you are asking) you are looking for the createrawtransaction and signrawtransaction commands.
legendary
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

Thanks.
you should download and sync the CLAM wallet, make sure your addresses are empty and there is a process to check all the addresses, it should be here in the thread, someone will answer with more specifical info or you could ask for help on the clam IRC #clams on freenode.
Eitherway you should start downloading the wallet and sync it as first step.

It can be as simple as placing the wallet.dat file holding the addresses in the data folder. 
You can also use the file->import wallet command and browse to the wallet. 
Finally, if the debug file shows some missed keys on importing that way you can try with the -salvagewallet flag.

Thanks for the help.

If I understand correctly, to claim CLAMS I only need to provide a signed message from the respective BTC or DOGE address. Is that correct?

If so, could you please tell me the command to use with the server daemon for doing this? I can automate the process for all my addresses. Basically I wanted to know if CLAMS could be claimed without revealing the private key of the respective BTC or DOGE address?
hero member
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CLAM Developer
Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

Thanks.
you should download and sync the CLAM wallet, make sure your addresses are empty and there is a process to check all the addresses, it should be here in the thread, someone will answer with more specifical info or you could ask for help on the clam IRC #clams on freenode.
Eitherway you should start downloading the wallet and sync it as first step.

It can be as simple as placing the wallet.dat file holding the addresses in the data folder. 
You can also use the file->import wallet command and browse to the wallet. 
Finally, if the debug file shows some missed keys on importing that way you can try with the -salvagewallet flag.
legendary
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

Thanks.
you should download and sync the CLAM wallet, make sure your addresses are empty and there is a process to check all the addresses, it should be here in the thread, someone will answer with more specifical info or you could ask for help on the clam IRC #clams on freenode.
Eitherway you should start downloading the wallet and sync it as first step.
legendary
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Is there an API that I could use to check a few hundred thousand bitcoin and dogecoin addresses to see if any have CLAMS that can be claimed?

Thanks.
hero member
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CLAM Developer
Another inflation curve braindead kid. To stress the point inflation curve is not the only magical aspect of viability a buyer would love to gauge before hes in.
 
 
Nothing magical.   
The conversation was specifically referencing coin supply; thus, coin supply was specifically referenced.
member
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Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note: 
 
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply. 

Another inflation curve braindead kid. To stress the point inflation curve is not the only magical aspect of viability a buyer would love to gauge before hes in.
hero member
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CLAM Developer
If anyone in the community has programming experience and experience with IFTTT (and would be willing to get involved), please PM this account or visit the freenode IRC #clams channel. 
 
Thanks Smiley
legendary
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It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply.  

I must not be understanding something correctly.  

http://khashier.com/       says 16092480.15730008 coins created.

https://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins       says 15,972,763  total btc.  

How is that significantly less, looks like the other way around?  

Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug?  

The distribution is based on the number of unspent outputs (regardless of the amount) that existed on a specific date, so it's not a 1:1 CLAM:BTC relationship, nor did the distribution necessarily favour BTC wallets with a large balance.

If on that day you had 1000 BTC in a single unspent output, the CLAM blockchain will have have 1 transaction that matches your key (~4.6 CLAMs)

If on that day you had 0.1 BTC spread over 10 unspent outputs, the CLAM blockchain will have 10 transactions that match your keys (~46 CLAMs)

To further complicate things, initial PoS rewards were based on a lotto system that could occasionally reward hundreds (or was it thousands?) of CLAMs if you won the stake of a special reward block.

So yeah, there's no really clear relationship between BTC minted, and CLAMs claimed.
legendary
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Owner at AltQuick.com
www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!

Thanks, it's hard to come across good faucets now days.  Most pay like once a week or something so this is pretty cool

Thanks!
hero member
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CLAM Developer
Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug?  
 
  
Yes Smiley  
  
In order to reach the larger figure, every single person who was using Bitcoin/Litecoin/Dogecoin would have to claim (and thus be aware of) CLAM.  
  
Indeed, at this point I think it is likely that at least some of those keys have been lost to the ages (possibly many of them).
legendary
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Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note:  
  
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply.  

I must not be understanding something correctly.  

http://khashier.com/       says 16092480.15730008 coins created.

https://blockchain.info/charts/total-bitcoins       says 15,972,763  total btc.  

How is that significantly less, looks like the other way around?  

Hmm..  I also see that coinmarketcap    says 1,987,196 CLAM  available supply.

So that is all that has been staked & dug? 





hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!

Thanks, it's hard to come across good faucets now days.  Most pay like once a week or something so this is pretty cool
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
www.FreeBitcoins.com Clamcoin faucet is now working again.  Withdraws every minute and no accounts!

Withdraw to Just-dice or Bustaclam and play for free!
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1002
CLAM Developer
Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

On a side note: 
 
It is easy to forget that the CLAM supply is still significantly less than BTC, the inflation curve is more conservative for quite some time yet, and each clam that is staked represents a smaller amount of 'inflation' proportionally due to the ever growing total supply. 
legendary
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So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

The market is going to gain confidence again.

These levels are crazy low.  Anything under .0045 before Christmas I bet is low if the price drives... not spikes.  (even .0025 would be nice, but why not be bullish)

I've opened up FreeBitcoins.com as a Clamcoin faucet for a couple reasons, but mainly it lets users get access to their funds immediately through a "safe" blockchain.  No week wait or minimums to meet for a withdraw.  (No account in fact at all)  

We are going to work on it for the next bit and tune her up, but right now it is fairly bare bones and we link Just-dice and Bustaclam for wallets that people can use that work with our "Bitcoins".

Right now if you put in for a faucet withdraw it will go pending... will update when working again Tongue

Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.

Someone should set up a gambling site or decentralized autonomous contract gambling, where clams get burned if you lose or something.  
Would help decrease supply, or at least regulate it?  Or, maybe put clam voting system to use and vote to change supply rate? (in terms of stake rate, not sure if possible for digging)

hero member
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https://bit-exo.com/?ref=gamblingbad
So, basically just over almost a year now and there hasn't been that much dug?

Yes 25k in a year is not so bad.
Hory Shet, I cannot believe it passed a year since the digger, lol.

The market is going to gain confidence again.

These levels are crazy low.  Anything under .0045 before Christmas I bet is low if the price drives... not spikes.  (even .0025 would be nice, but why not be bullish)

I've opened up FreeBitcoins.com as a Clamcoin faucet for a couple reasons, but mainly it lets users get access to their funds immediately through a "safe" blockchain.  No week wait or minimums to meet for a withdraw.  (No account in fact at all)   

We are going to work on it for the next bit and tune her up, but right now it is fairly bare bones and we link Just-dice and Bustaclam for wallets that people can use that work with our "Bitcoins".

Right now if you put in for a faucet withdraw it will go pending... will update when working again Tongue

Not to be negative, so long there is over 500k new clams every year its hard to keep price over 0.001.
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