Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 163. (Read 1151252 times)

I found the following interesting, and thought I'd share it here:

I came across a new paper on the subject of Bitcoin address clustering - the practice of studying transactions on the blockchain to identify which groups of addresses belong to which wallets:

I noticed this diagram of the largest address clusters:



I hadn't heard of betvip.com before the CLAM whale digger surfaced, but from the little research I did, it appears that he was digging mostly from that cluster.

The diagram shows just how many more whale diggers there could be. There are many more the same size or bigger. And then there are LTC and DOGE clusters too, not shown here.

Edit: Of course, many of these clusters could have been mostly empty addresses on the CLAM snapshot date, and so wouldn't be candidates for digging.

Yes, the key word here is 'average'. Each stake can take more or less time to actually happen; it's pretty much random, since whether you stake or not is based on the size of the hash of a bunch of stuff.


I don't, sorry. I personally only really use poloniex if I want to buy or sell CLAMs. It's the biggest market, usually has a decently narrow spread, reasonably low fees, and I have never had problems trusting them with up to 50 BTC or so in my balance. I did play about with one of the other exchanges when they first added CLAM but I didn't like the site felt, or the lack of liquidity in its market so I went back to poloniex.

I can also recommend arranging direct trades in the just-dice chat tab. You can usually find somebody willing to trade CLAM for BTC, and there's a free built in automated escrow system (type /escrow there for details).

They bought a ton of advertising just now.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14939029

I'm sure if you ask them or PM that they'd fix your withdraw.

Maybe they are just bold ass scammers.

Yobit is a really skeetchy exchange, i believe they involved in most of the ico scams that occur on there, i dont think they would mess with an user when they have small cuts from the site. Yet i seen that lately there is a bunch of users with the same problem, maybe they scared a bit of their IOC if they cannot cover it.

 
 
I have no personal experience with 'yobit', or that exchange's history of being trustworthy or timely with withdrawals. 
If you are having trouble with withdrawals, I would suggest you take every opportunity (even in a different coin) to get your value out. 

I know it is, in theory, should be, but I practically everything comes out longer, maybe I unlucky , example: recent two my inputs of 141clam, according you theory average waiting time should be ~7 day, but I got reward after 13 day for first, and  for second input of 141clam already 10day without reward.
P.S.
@dooglus 
 maybe you have information about clam wallet in  yobit exchange ? I waiting withdraw already week, with status - "Transfer from cold storage", and any respond for support.

Congratulations to The Great CLAM on reaching the one million blocks milestone!

It's been a while since I replied to posts here, so here goes:


You want tcp/31174 open to the world for p2p connections, and tcp/30174 open locally if you want to use RPC. Don't open the RPC port globally unless you know what you're doing.


I've been updating it semi-regularly here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9772191

I did just update it too.


It was exploitable for sure. I don't think it was designed to be exploitable; I think it was an accident. I did point out to the developers (on Jul 23 '14) that it seemed exploitable soon after it was launched (on Jul 12 '14) but it was already live by then:


To maximize staking, smaller is better until you get to the point that your wallet is using all available CPU checking your outputs. You need to balance that against the future transaction fees required to recombine your outputs when you want to spend them. Note that splitting won't speed up staking, it will only reduce the effect of the 500 block maturation time after an output stakes.


If you only have 30 CLAMs, you will be waiting an average of 30 days to stake no matter how you split them. If you have 3000 CLAMs and split them into 100 piles of 30, each of the piles will be waiting an average 30 days to stake, but one of them will get lucky and stake early. You can expect a few of them to stake each day on average. If instead you split them into 1000 piles of 3, each will be waiting about a year to stake, but you can still expect a few of them to stake each day on average. And each time one of your 3's stakes, it is only making 3+1 CLAMs inactive for 500 blocks, whereas when one of your 30's stakes, it is making 30+1 CLAMs inactive for 500 blocks, which is clearly less efficient from a stake-as-much-as-you-can perspective.


I recently noticed that over 50% of the Just-Dice hot wallet was unavailable for withdrawal. Upon investigation I saw this massive stake transaction. A large deposit had staked before I got a chance to split it up. It split as it staked, but by then it's too late - all the outputs are unavailable until they get 500 confirmations.

Yes the staking pool is still open, but has only small users, so the stake rate is fairly low. It does consistently stake every few days or so.

Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/no-nonsense-clam-staking-pool-1200703

Post there or PM me if interested in joining.

An alternative option, if he is still doing it: 
User 'smooth' was staking some CLAM for users. 
 
Otherwise, it is important that you stake consistently - it is likely more efficient for you to pool your CLAM at JD. 

Yes sorry clams. Auto correct. I can't run a computer 24/7 though so that's an issue

If I had 1000 clamps, I would sell most of them, but keep a few to help me with carpentry projects.  Now, if I had 1000 CLAMS, I think what I would do with them would depend on how I got them.  Sudden gift, or recently dug: I'd probably sell half and stake half.  If I just bought them, I'd probably stake for a while and hope the price climbs a bit too.

If you have 1000 clamp would just stake them or keep them on just dice site?

Damn, looks like I'll need to do some more collecting then.

Thanks fellas!

I think that was per-output. If you have many of these small outputs, one of them will stake sooner.

Currently you need something in the neighborhood of 1000 CLAMS to stake once per day.

Damn does it really take 40-50 days for the first reward?

Any of those are fine, it doesn't really matter. The main thing is just not to have one huge output.

these issues haunts me as well dooglus  mention about ~30 clam input, but I think This applies only to very long-term,
because first reward you have to wait very long-  40-50 day. (in case 10-15 input , even 3-4 month)

Can anyone tell me a good size for each input in desktop wallet to maximize staking?  I was told 10-15, I was thinking 25?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Not sure if this would considered exploitable, but you could have gained quite an advantage by only staking selectively. Staking disabled by default; call GetProofOfStakeReward right after a new block arrives, then enable staking ONLY if the reward for the next block is sufficient. In addition to not wasting stakes on 0.1 reward blocks, by ignoring those the overall weight when it does attempt to stake would be greater.

My router has upnp setup does work with the clam coin client.   I saw same thing in the bitcoin core client but then it was fixed at some point.  Anyhow, what are the correct udp or tcp ports that need to be opened for home router to accept inbound traffic.

Thanks.