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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 173. (Read 1151252 times)

legendary
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About how much would he get with 100,  per day on JD ?

I can tell you how much he would have got per 100 per week on JD over some recent weeks:

  Jan  4 2016     0.69
  Jan 11 2016     0.71
  Jan 18 2016     0.70
  Jan 25 2016     0.68
  Feb  1 2016     0.66
  Feb  8 2016     0.67
  Feb 15 2016     0.70
  Feb 22 2016     0.76
  Feb 29 2016     0.66

So about 0.1 per day. Or 10 days per whole CLAM.

That's a little worse than my 8.333 day estimate for solo-staking, but that calculation could easily have been that much off because there's no accurate way of knowing how many CLAMs are actually trying to stake.
legendary
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hi, how need Clams for pure POS? 100 enough? and how much is the probability to catch the POS at 100 coins in the wallets? thank you


There are around 1.2 million CLAMs staking, and 1440 CLAMs are staked per day.

So each CLAM can expect to take 1.2e6 / 1440 = 833.3333 days to stake, or 100 CLAMs can expect to take 8.333 days to stake.

Roughly.
Ill point out that investing on just dice or other site that lets you stake clams saves you from the headache of variance with such small amount going standalone.
So yeah it may take 8.333 days to stake a whole clam, but you get a stake nearly every minute.

About how much would he get with 100,  per day on JD ?
legendary
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hi, how need Clams for pure POS? 100 enough? and how much is the probability to catch the POS at 100 coins in the wallets? thank you


There are around 1.2 million CLAMs staking, and 1440 CLAMs are staked per day.

So each CLAM can expect to take 1.2e6 / 1440 = 833.3333 days to stake, or 100 CLAMs can expect to take 8.333 days to stake.

Roughly.
Ill point out that investing on just dice or other site that lets you stake clams saves you from the headache of variance with such small amount going standalone.
So yeah it may take 8.333 days to stake a whole clam, but you get a stake nearly every minute.
legendary
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hi, how need Clams for pure POS? 100 enough? and how much is the probability to catch the POS at 100 coins in the wallets? thank you

There are around 1.2 million CLAMs staking, and 1440 CLAMs are staked per day.

So each CLAM can expect to take 1.2e6 / 1440 = 833.3333 days to stake, or 100 CLAMs can expect to take 8.333 days to stake.

Roughly.
hero member
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hi, how need Clams for pure POS? 100 enough? and how much is the probability to catch the POS at 100 coins in the wallets? thank you
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hero member
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I miss dooglus
CLAM should go up now since Trump did good yesterday
hero member
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I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
Hey, does anyone know what's happening to CLAM? The price hit 0,0015 today...

I look at price movements like the tide, the lower the price/tide the more clams you can pick up easily

Cheers Jon  Grin
legendary
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I think that people are selling up to buy ETH and other ETH related Alts.
I assume that is the case anyway, the price kind of sucks at the moment though.

The amount invested in JD seems high still, so hopefully not too much invested money is moving out too.
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can i donwload somewhere a complete blockchain ?
legendary
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No really... without digging clams will lose ALOT of his charme. And i think it will go down pretty fast then too.
How can you say that after 2 years!? The only reason why CLAM is still alive and kicking  is Just-Dice. You can't be that blind. I don't have a problem with digging but that award (4.6) need to be smaller with time.

You didn't get my point. What I was trying to say in the unquoted text is that all the new users mainly come to clam because of that unique feature. To be honest, I would never have bothered to spend the hours of time investigating clams when I could not be pretty sure that I would find some clams on old addresses of mine.

Take this away, where will new clam users come from?

From gamblers? Why? They will most probably be bitcoiners so why should they bother checking out just-dice when they would have to buy and checkout some altcoin to gamble there? JD is not even the biggest casino so I don't see why one shoul invest the time to do so.

Clam will die pretty fast because it won't be able to attract new users anymore. A gambling site with only a single altcoin, I don't know if it can attract normal gamblers. I doubt, because of the hassle.

Well, only my opinion...
hero member
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CLAM Developer
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sr. member
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Hi,

I'm maintaining Cryptocoins – vector/webfont cryptocurrency icon pack; just released a new update (1.6) including Clams (thanks to request by your community members and/or your coinmarketcap position)!


Hope you won't mind me posting here (other communities appreciate it).
If you like the work, tip me crypto and support further development:

Clams: xAvdvSiN6x4DhwPkGFAe2mEqtFbVfurscf
BTC: 1MByfmAdyRFr3qxMh2cspX5RsxS4FKjMmH

Cheers!
~ systh
legendary
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in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.

Is there any evidence from the altcoin domain to support this assertion?

Cheers

Graham
legendary
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That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

Long term, any fixed rate of issuance will approach a balance with the rate of lost coins.

It won't be deflationary like Bitcoin (once issuance is finished, lost Bitcoins will actually shrink the money supply) but it won't be inflationary either.
legendary
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So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.

That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

In 20 years PresiKing Trump will be starting his sixth term.  CLAM will be the official chip at all Trump casinos, including the ones in Iran, North Korea, Guantanimo, and Mars.

Secretary of the Treasury Dooglus will be on our side.

I advise hodling.
hero member
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CLAM Developer
So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?
There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.
Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.
How is this coin still alive?
Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.
Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.
That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it.  I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

Although 'inflation' is an oft-repeated trigger word, it is important to be clear in your usage. 
Inflation in the traditional sense represents a loss of purchasing power. 
 
For those who do not contribute to the network, or allow their CLAM to sit on an exchange or idle somewhere: 
Yes, 'inflation'/staking represents a loss in purchasing power.

In the case of CLAM, purchasing power is maintained to the degree to which those CLAM are staked. 
This would be the equivalent of fiat magically multiplying in your wallet over time. 
 
The question is, would you care if a 'dollar' was worth half as much, given that when you look in your wallet you have twice as many? 

In truth, for active stakers, the expected value of staking is a net positive. 
One can assume that at all times some amount of CLAM will not be staking. 
Those who are actively staking during that time period earn that share of the reward. 
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