[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 174.

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Quote from: dooglus on February 24, 2016, 06:02:46 AM

Quote from: dealeris on February 24, 2016, 05:15:26 AM

So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

Quote from: dealeris on February 24, 2016, 05:15:26 AM

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

Although CLAM is a good coin, and one of the few Altcoins that have real value due to JD, I think we can all agree that we won't be using it in 20 years time!
I agree that inflation isn't a bad thing, in fact in some ways it alleviates the problem of the whale diggers, as they will be diluted out of their idle fortunes.

That being said, in the long term the inflation will be too high, resulting in a low value of CLAM, so people will be less inclined to use it. I don't see that being a problem in the short term.

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Quote from: dealeris on February 24, 2016, 05:15:26 AM

So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?

There are no miners. It is a proof of stake coin.

Stakes are paid in CLAM, not dollars. Inflation due to staking will tend to devalue each CLAM, leaving staker holdings worth approximately a constant amount.

Quote from: dealeris on February 24, 2016, 05:15:26 AM

How is this coin still alive?

Inflation isn't evil when newly created coins are fairly distributed.

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Quote from: jd1959 on February 23, 2016, 02:57:52 PM

Quote from: dealeris on February 23, 2016, 06:13:16 AM

Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?

approx 1440 per day....1 minute average block time...... 1 Clam per block as reward

Cheers Jon Wink

Thanks for the answer.

So miners gather around $1200 in total in one day(according to current market value)? Is this correct?
How is this coin still alive?

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Quote from: dealeris on February 23, 2016, 06:13:16 AM

Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?

approx 1440 per day....1 minute average block time...... 1 Clam per block as reward

Cheers Jon Wink

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Where can i find how many Clams are distributed daily?

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I always make a habit of checking GPG signatures of downloads (especially for crypto clients), but there are no GPG signatures for the clamclient downloads.

After what happened with Linux Mint, I think this is a good habit to maintain.

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Quote from: Kefkius on February 21, 2016, 06:38:41 PM

Isn't it technically possible to use any character encoding in clamspeech? Whether or not UTF8 is supported seems to be an issue for whatever is parsing/presenting the clamspeech. After all, the bytes are there, it's just a matter of encoding them as characters for human consumption.

Yes, that's what my patch does. It just copies the bytes from the clamd client to the server and to into the transaction, no conversion at all (should be tested on Windows as well, I tested it only on Linux and with the command line tools, not the Qt client). You can use ISO-8859-1 if you like, or UTF8, or any other encoding.

But the transaction doesn't store the information which encoding you used, so as a convention it would be good to use only one encoding. UTF8 would be the best, I think, because it is the international standard nowadays and you can encode nearly anything with it.

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Quote from: marilyn4325 on February 19, 2016, 03:23:16 PM

Is it possible to use UTF8 for CLAM speech? I tried the sendtoaddress command (after fixing clamd, pull request issued) on an UTF8 terminal, so clamd should get the UTF8 string. I used this string as the CLAM speech parameter "test2 äöü 象形字", transaction: 2e7d31559f88322bbd66ea361f312c695fb62984ae133b7661cd21dcb2110366. I don't know if the UTF8 characters made it into the transaction, looks like khashier.com doesn't show it, but it looks like the typical 2 bytes UTF8 chars.
Update: khashier supports already UTF8, test with the text 嗨!: http://khashier.com/tx/e4d5c2f48e8da1c0ed800edf87281dddb9b8d1c5e612e18b173015c7946707b0
Looks like some kind of command line encoding problem on my Linux machine or in the clamd command line program.

Isn't it technically possible to use any character encoding in clamspeech? Whether or not UTF8 is supported seems to be an issue for whatever is parsing/presenting the clamspeech. After all, the bytes are there, it's just a matter of encoding them as characters for human consumption.

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Quote from: cryptospout on February 21, 2016, 11:21:34 AM

Today I fucked up by buying an image off Fiverr

Fiverr is terrible. You need to have really good luck to find a good designer. Once I tried it for a logo and they just stole an image with minimal modifications (adding text with a standard font), which one of my customers noted. I asked the original author of the image and he didn't know about it and gave no permission. Never again. Now I use always http://en.99designs.de . It's the best for custom logos, graphics and websites. More expensive, but original and you get multiple drafts from different professional artists.

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Quote from: cryptospout on February 21, 2016, 09:35:33 AM

Need some clams?

You missed an R in EARNING.

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Need some clams?

https://cryptospout.com/offer_wall/clam_offer_wall.html

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I found a solution. Now I can send this string "test äöüß 嗨" and khashier shows it:
http://khashier.com/tx/3b0fd2ecba309e4d5f24b007d9972f2841f4d36aa7a613561be5b648dcffc198
I created a pull-request where we can discuss it, if it is not good.

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Quote from: tspacepilot on February 19, 2016, 04:25:01 PM

Not sure if its applicable, but is it possible to give a file as an arg for you clamd clamspeech? If so, that might avoid any tinkering by the shell/locale.

No, this is not implemented.

I debugged it a bit more and this is what I found so far: When using a terminal with UTF8 (e.g. echo $LANG = en_US.UTF-8) and calling the clamd client, the UTF8 string is encoded as \u strings. If I use "ä" (UTF8 sequence 0xc3 0xa4), then I can see the ASCII text "\u00c3\u00a4" in the RPC request string. Now I think the problem is that in univalue_read.cpp, the function getJsonToken does some strange looking codepoint conversion which I don't understand. But looks like it expects UTF16 (already too late and some beers).

If it converts it back to UTF8, then one possible solution would be to detect if the terminal is in UTF8 mode for the client, and then converting the UTF8 characters to UTF16 for the RPC call. Shouldn't be too difficult, just the inverse code of what you have in getJsonToken. If someone wants to do it, write here, otherwise I'll try it tomorrow.

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Quote from: marilyn4325 on February 19, 2016, 03:23:16 PM

Is it possible to use UTF8 for CLAM speech? I tried the sendtoaddress command (after fixing clamd, pull request issued) on an UTF8 terminal, so clamd should get the UTF8 string. I used this string as the CLAM speech parameter "test2 äöü 象形字", transaction: 2e7d31559f88322bbd66ea361f312c695fb62984ae133b7661cd21dcb2110366. I don't know if the UTF8 characters made it into the transaction, looks like khashier.com doesn't show it, but it looks like the typical 2 bytes UTF8 chars.
Update: khashier supports already UTF8, test with the text 嗨!: http://khashier.com/tx/e4d5c2f48e8da1c0ed800edf87281dddb9b8d1c5e612e18b173015c7946707b0
Looks like some kind of command line encoding problem on my Linux machine or in the clamd command line program.

Not sure if its applicable, but is it possible to give a file as an arg for you clamd clamspeech? If so, that might avoid any tinkering by the shell/locale.

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Is it possible to use UTF8 for CLAM speech? I tried the sendtoaddress command (after fixing clamd, pull request issued) on an UTF8 terminal, so clamd should get the UTF8 string. I used this string as the CLAM speech parameter "test2 äöü 象形字", transaction: 2e7d31559f88322bbd66ea361f312c695fb62984ae133b7661cd21dcb2110366. I don't know if the UTF8 characters made it into the transaction, looks like khashier.com doesn't show it, but it looks like the typical 2 bytes UTF8 chars.
Update: khashier supports already UTF8, test with the text 嗨!: http://khashier.com/tx/e4d5c2f48e8da1c0ed800edf87281dddb9b8d1c5e612e18b173015c7946707b0
Looks like some kind of command line encoding problem on my Linux machine or in the clamd command line program.

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Quote from: Faust Roland on February 17, 2016, 03:47:31 PM

Hi, is possible to stake with coins on multisignature address where you have only 1 key in the wallet?

I suppose no, but this feature would help create trustless staking pools.

Imagine 1-of-2 address, where 1 key can sign only stake transactions, while the other can withdraw them.
Pool would have the staking key and user would have the spending key.

But, just thinking aloud...

I've read threads on the peercoin forum where they talk about this. I don't think it's possible as things currently stand, but it could be added if there's support for it.

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Hi, is possible to stake with coins on multisignature address where you have only 1 key in the wallet?

I suppose no, but this feature would help create trustless staking pools.

Imagine 1-of-2 address, where 1 key can sign only stake transactions, while the other can withdraw them.
Pool would have the staking key and user would have the spending key.

But, just thinking aloud...

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Quote from: kunac on February 15, 2016, 09:30:20 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on February 15, 2016, 06:14:56 AM

No really... without digging clams will lose ALOT of his charme. And i think it will go down pretty fast then too.

How can you say that after 2 years!? The only reason why CLAM is still alive and kicking is Just-Dice. You can't be that blind. I don't have a problem with digging but that award (4.6) need to be smaller with time.

Yes yes we all know how big role JD implies but dont forget that only 50% of the bankroll is being offsited, if you count the clams out of jd id say there is more people staking. And if you want to end up digging/lower it why dont you make a clamour and start promoting it, hell you can even find someone to promote it for you.
My auto-mouthfuck dog had a decent share in my opinion for a while. If a dog fucking his own mouth can do it you can too.

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