[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 286.

dooglus

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Quote from: tspacepilot on October 09, 2015, 01:40:58 AM

Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:17:22 PM

That chart took multiple hours to generate, so I don't really want to do that again. It burns my fingers as I type due to the CPU getting so hot.

But I can tell you that "the digger" is down to block 7157 now. So the chart will almost certainly look the same, but with the jump from low to high happening at block 7157 instead of at a higher numbered block.

If I recall correctly he was working backwards in time towards block 0, right? So if someone could just remind me of approximately how many blocks he digs per unit time again ... Kiss

Different blocks have different numbers of initial distribution CLAMs in them, so it's not constant.

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Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:17:22 PM

That chart took multiple hours to generate, so I don't really want to do that again. It burns my fingers as I type due to the CPU getting so hot.

But I can tell you that "the digger" is down to block 7157 now. So the chart will almost certainly look the same, but with the jump from low to high happening at block 7157 instead of at a higher numbered block.

If I recall correctly he was working backwards in time towards block 0, right? So if someone could just remind me of approximately how many blocks he digs per unit time again ... Kiss

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A review titled 'CLAMs, You Probably Have Them Already was submitted to allcryptocoins.net.

You can read the review HERE!

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Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:12:58 PM

There was some 'interesting' price action on bittrex recently:

That looks a lot like someone buying 133 CLAMs for 66 BTC, with the last 6 CLAMs selling for 6 BTC. CLAM finally reached BTC-parity?

I expect it was just a costly typo - but who knows.

I was watching that also, and was like dang someone input the wrong info on a bot or they are drinking some really good stuff.

It will be nice when 1:1 is the case though

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Quote from: kolloh on October 07, 2015, 07:31:43 PM

Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:17:22 PM

Quote from: kolloh on October 06, 2015, 09:08:38 AM

Dooglus,
Would you be so kind as to post an updated chart showing what percentage of the CLAMs have been given out in each distribution block similar to the one you posted about a month ago?
Thanks!

That chart took multiple hours to generate, so I don't really want to do that again. It burns my fingers as I type due to the CPU getting so hot.
But I can tell you that "the digger" is down to block 7157 now. So the chart will almost certainly look the same, but with the jump from low to high happening at block 7157 instead of at a higher numbered block.

Oh yikes, didn't realize it was that intensive lol. The block number should be enough info. Thanks!

All shalt bow before The Great CLAM.

It is written. Wink

kolloh

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Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:17:22 PM

Quote from: kolloh on October 06, 2015, 09:08:38 AM

Dooglus,

Would you be so kind as to post an updated chart showing what percentage of the CLAMs have been given out in each distribution block similar to the one you posted about a month ago?

Thanks!

That chart took multiple hours to generate, so I don't really want to do that again. It burns my fingers as I type due to the CPU getting so hot.

But I can tell you that "the digger" is down to block 7157 now. So the chart will almost certainly look the same, but with the jump from low to high happening at block 7157 instead of at a higher numbered block.

Oh yikes, didn't realize it was that intensive lol. The block number should be enough info. Thanks!

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Quote from: dooglus on October 07, 2015, 06:12:58 PM

There was some 'interesting' price action on bittrex recently:

That looks a lot like someone buying 133 CLAMs for 66 BTC, with the last 6 CLAMs selling for 6 BTC. CLAM finally reached BTC-parity?

I expect it was just a costly typo - but who knows.

Now that was a costly typo
But now we can say that it has traded at parity with Bitcoin for a brief time somewhere

BayAreaCoins

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CLAM hits 1 to 1 with BTC on Bittrex Cheesy

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https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-CLAM

Edit: Fuck dooglus beat me to the punch here

dooglus

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Quote from: kolloh on October 06, 2015, 09:08:38 AM

Dooglus,

Would you be so kind as to post an updated chart showing what percentage of the CLAMs have been given out in each distribution block similar to the one you posted about a month ago?

Thanks!

That chart took multiple hours to generate, so I don't really want to do that again. It burns my fingers as I type due to the CPU getting so hot.

But I can tell you that "the digger" is down to block 7157 now. So the chart will almost certainly look the same, but with the jump from low to high happening at block 7157 instead of at a higher numbered block.

dooglus

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There was some 'interesting' price action on bittrex recently:

That looks a lot like someone buying 133 CLAMs for 66 BTC, with the last 6 CLAMs selling for 6 BTC. CLAM finally reached BTC-parity?

I expect it was just a costly typo - but who knows.

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Quote from: Esally on October 07, 2015, 02:33:40 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 07, 2015, 02:18:07 PM

Stumbled across a pretty nice Russian article this morning in regards to CLAM.

http://www.cryptonavigator.com/bitcoin/how-to-get-bitcoins/189-zarabotok-bitcoin-na-staryh-neispolzuemyh-adresah-btc-ltc-i-doge.html

Becareful with this, cryptonavigator is famous for spam articles. This one isn't about clam either, but "Зapaбoтoк Bitcoin" or roughly "How to make bitcoin" and doesn't promote or talk about clam but encourages people to just sell it for bitcoins on some rip off service.

People earning Bitcoins off CLAM will be a important thing for Clamcoins long term success.

The article seems to clearly break down the pricing for the people and encourages CLIENT downloads. (4.97 $ vs 3.77 $ vs .005 BTC at the time of their post)

That "rip off service" will be responsible for pushing Clamcoin into the next level. (Also I don't think it is a rip off, but I'm fairly bias

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If you think you can provide a better service and beat ClamChecker in the digging business... by all means get involved!

SuperClam, Is there a way we can tell how many Clients have been downloaded? It appears to have 2 more watches.

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 07, 2015, 02:18:07 PM

Stumbled across a pretty nice Russian article this morning in regards to CLAM.

http://www.cryptonavigator.com/bitcoin/how-to-get-bitcoins/189-zarabotok-bitcoin-na-staryh-neispolzuemyh-adresah-btc-ltc-i-doge.html

Becareful with this, cryptonavigator is famous for spam articles. This one isn't about clam either, but "Зapaбoтoк Bitcoin" or roughly "How to make bitcoin" and doesn't promote or talk about clam but encourages people to just sell it for bitcoins on some rip off service.

BayAreaCoins

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Stumbled across a pretty nice Russian article this morning in regards to CLAM.

http://www.cryptonavigator.com/bitcoin/how-to-get-bitcoins/189-zarabotok-bitcoin-na-staryh-neispolzuemyh-adresah-btc-ltc-i-doge.html

kolloh

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Dooglus,

Would you be so kind as to post an updated chart showing what percentage of the CLAMs have been given out in each distribution block similar to the one you posted about a month ago?

Thanks!

BayAreaCoins

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Quote from: hermesesus on October 06, 2015, 04:38:10 AM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 05, 2015, 06:58:00 PM

Hermesesus how did you find out about CLAM?

Thanks to people wanting to buy empty BTC addresses Cheesy

No hard feelings

Go figure... Tongue

Feel free to make a donation! Wink

(har har ya right)

Did you find someone trying to buy on BitcoinTalk, A-Ad-s, MellowAds, Adbit.co, CoinAds, Adwords or other? (thanks for answering btw and feel free not to)

No hard feelings here! Happy to see folks downloading the client. We present it as one of our options for a reason

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on October 05, 2015, 06:58:00 PM

Hermesesus how did you find out about CLAM?

Thanks to people wanting to buy empty BTC addresses Cheesy

No hard feelings

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Quote from: dooglus on October 05, 2015, 03:27:47 PM

Quote from: presstab on October 05, 2015, 03:16:16 PM

Yeah definitely a cool idea. I have successfully done this for HYP now, and am trying to add multiple outputs to different addresses to my next stake that came in. I think I remember you having quite a few outputs sent in one of your transactions?

For CLAM, the consensus only insists that the 1st input and 2nd output have the same pubkey when staking. Later inputs and outputs can have any pubkey you like.

I use this as a free way of tidying up the 'dust' outputs that collect in my wallets from faucets.

There's also -rewardto, which sends just the staking reward to the specified address. This would be useful if you wanted to keep your principal but send the staking income to an exchange for selling, for example.

Doog you dont even know about clam bro

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Quote from: SuperClam on October 05, 2015, 03:56:06 PM

Quote from: hermesesus on October 05, 2015, 10:34:30 AM

I advice people who want to claim their free CLAMS to do it themselves.
I downloaded the clam client, waited (a long time, that's true) for sync, imported my old empty BTC wallet and got CLAMS that I sold for BTC on poloniex. But it's worth the effort

Don't use these profiteers' sites that give you dust for your BTC/LTC/DOGE addresses!

Awesome

Wish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless. Grin

Hope you'll reconsider in the future Cool

At least they have the client downloaded Tongue

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Hermesesus how did you find out about CLAM?

SuperClam

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Quote from: hermesesus on October 05, 2015, 04:30:53 PM

Quote from: SuperClam on October 05, 2015, 03:56:06 PM

Wish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless. Grin

Hope you'll reconsider in the future Cool

Oh, I can still purchase CLAMs. Who knows? Wink

I like the "spirit" of the project: equal initial distribution and the POWS system ("staking CLAMs"). But you have to own many CLAMs in your wallet to hope for a reward.
Anyway, good luck

True.

Clam IS very competitive.

But, let us ponder why.

In conventional proof-of-stake, you can save up your "age" and "claim" by staking for an interest gain at any time.
This provides a situation where inflation is distributed regardless of the contribution to the network.
Leaving the incentive structure aside (less reason to secure the network consistently), this creates a very different economic situation.

The CLAM block reward is a static amount and it is apportioned based on the individual stakers' contribution to securing the network.
What does this mean?

It can be assumed that not every CLAM will be staked (though our percentage actively staked is likely the highest in crypto).
In short, it allows a staker to "beat" inflation.

In my honest opinion, this makes the economics of Proof-of-Working-Stake in CLAM much more similar to Proof-Of-Work mining than the interest based Proof-Of-Stake employed by other networks.

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Quote from: SuperClam on October 05, 2015, 03:56:06 PM

Wish we could have convinced you to join the CLAM family; but, we are happy to hear things went well, regardless. Grin

Hope you'll reconsider in the future Cool

Oh, I can still purchase CLAMs. Who knows? Wink

I like the "spirit" of the project: equal initial distribution and the POWS system ("staking CLAMs"). But you have to own many CLAMs in your wallet to hope for a reward.

Anyway, good luck

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