Do we really want to be associated with a site that claims to be able to pay 1% interest per hour simply by doing "trading and mining"? It's clearly a Ponzi, and so will inevitably fail.
Innocent until proven guilty in my opinion.
The problem is that as soon as they are proven guilty they will just register a new domain name, change the site design, and start again. I would be surprised if the people behind this scam weren't already "proven guilty" several times before, running almost exactly the same scam.
Just look at the numbers. They *guarantee* returns of 1% *per hour*. That's all the proof you need.
Just-Dice doesn't guarantee any kind of return. In fact we're very upfront about the fact that investors are bankrolling a casino. It's quite possible to suffer large losses if players get lucky.
I think people should know the history behind sites like this, but CLAM is about freedom of speech. Having a thread removed in regards to this is pretty much breath taking... this thread was supposed to only be self modded in order to keep people from trying to post fake CLAM clients
& spam. I would hardly say the first post about a new service is anywhere near spam.
Scammers are free to advertise their scams in the scammer section. This thread is for legitimate services. It does CLAM no good at all for people to get sucked in by a Ponzi scheme and lose all their CLAMs. The scammers will only dump their ill-gotten CLAMs anyway in the end.
Doog, you would not believe how many people when told or presented to Just-dice the first person think "Ponzi"? Because even .5% a day is pretty cray cray... only through further investigation they find that it is legit. I do not believe enough investigation has been done against this company to have such strong opinion as to prevent my freedom of speech. I think the CLAM community should support CLAM services regardless of what they are at this point.
If people think JD is a Ponzi, we can easily prove it isn't. We have a FAQ about it. We can prove solvency, we don't guarantee returns, it's very clear how returns are made. To compare JD with this obvious scam isn't fair. We have done enough investigation. They guarantee 1% per hour returns. That's all the investigation that is needed. We should not be supporting such deception. If they were up-front about it, told everyone they were a Ponzi, that it was a risky game to play, etc. then maybe that's OK. But to outright lie about it just isn't.
If people want to spend their internet pirate monies like that... who are we to stop them?
We can't stop them. I wouldn't want to stop them. I just don't want to be encouraging them to fall for a trick like this. This isn't a "service", it's a scam, pure and simple.
that works for Bitcointalk?
