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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 367. (Read 1151252 times)

sr. member
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How about counterparty for CLAM?

I've never understood why people like the counterparty platform. Using the system is not that great, for example to send/receive counterparty assets you still need bitcoin to fund the transaction. Yes, it's a small amount, but it rides on top of the bitcoin protocol. I was using sjcx (storj) which is a counterparty asset and not only was the wallet process confusing, but I had to use bitcoin to move it around. I wasn't pleased with counterparty... same with ripple.

No harm, no foul, just my opinion. Cheesy

Good points.
Perhaps implementing one of the colored coin wallets for CLAM would be a better idea.
legendary
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could you shed some light for us regarding the provably fair option on your ex website? thanks

I think the main problem is that he just bought a blackjack script from a third party and doesn't really know how it works.

It's probably best to move joker21 discussion to its own thread.
legendary
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SpacePirate.io
How about counterparty for CLAM?

I've never understood why people like the counterparty platform. Using the system is not that great, for example to send/receive counterparty assets you still need bitcoin to fund the transaction. Yes, it's a small amount, but it rides on top of the bitcoin protocol. I was using sjcx (storj) which is a counterparty asset and not only was the wallet process confusing, but I had to use bitcoin to move it around. I wasn't pleased with counterparty... same with ripple.

No harm, no foul, just my opinion. Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 433
Merit: 250
How about counterparty for CLAM?
hero member
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I just played at https://www.joker21.com - BlackJack for CLAM.

People in the Just-Dice chat were complaining it was "rigged" and asked me to go check it out, so I did.

I didn't identify myself there, just turned up as a random player. There's a faucet which sometimes gave me 5000 clamtoshis and sometimes just 1337, but either way that's enough to try the site out.

The dealer got lucky a few times, but that happens. I was able to turn my 5k to 20k before busting it.

Then I deposited 10 CLAM, and was able to bet 1 CLAM a few times, getting up to 11 or 12 CLAM before the max bet dropped below 1 CLAM. I bet 0.8 CLAM a few times and ended up withdrawing 10.6 CLAM. The withdrawal was instant.

The site appeared to crash a couple of times while I was playing, the animations are a bit glitchy, when the dealer has an ace it shows as being worth "1/10" when it should be "1/11", and CBI was complaining of losing a hand where he split 10's, got a 21, and lost to a 5-card 21 by the dealer. "Dealer 5 card Charlies aren't a thing" or something.

More seriously, I couldn't see the rules listed anywhere on the site, and there's nothing about how the probable fairness works. It shows you a sha256 hash of a list of cards before you play, and publishes the list of cards afterwards, but there's also a client seed (integer) and no indication of how the client seed affects the shuffle. So it's maybe provably fair, but there's not enough information on the site to know for sure, since I've no idea how to verify the deals.

Thanks for the review, they are new and will improve their services.
Now what would it take for the price of CLAM to go to 0.1 ?
elm
legendary
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I just played at https://www.joker21.com - BlackJack for CLAM.

People in the Just-Dice chat were complaining it was "rigged" and asked me to go check it out, so I did.

I didn't identify myself there, just turned up as a random player. There's a faucet which sometimes gave me 5000 clamtoshis and sometimes just 1337, but either way that's enough to try the site out.

The dealer got lucky a few times, but that happens. I was able to turn my 5k to 20k before busting it.

Then I deposited 10 CLAM, and was able to bet 1 CLAM a few times, getting up to 11 or 12 CLAM before the max bet dropped below 1 CLAM. I bet 0.8 CLAM a few times and ended up withdrawing 10.6 CLAM. The withdrawal was instant.

The site appeared to crash a couple of times while I was playing, the animations are a bit glitchy, when the dealer has an ace it shows as being worth "1/10" when it should be "1/11", and CBI was complaining of losing a hand where he split 10's, got a 21, and lost to a 5-card 21 by the dealer. "Dealer 5 card Charlies aren't a thing" or something.

More seriously, I couldn't see the rules listed anywhere on the site, and there's nothing about how the probable fairness works. It shows you a sha256 hash of a list of cards before you play, and publishes the list of cards afterwards, but there's also a client seed (integer) and no indication of how the client seed affects the shuffle. So it's maybe provably fair, but there's not enough information on the site to know for sure, since I've no idea how to verify the deals.


Just a public service announcement here in response to Dooglus's post. I was the original owner of the site a couple months ago when it was a bitcoin blackjack site. The site was offline for 2 months to ensure no new players or deposits were made. I sold the site to a new owner outside the US last week to a community member. The reason why I sold the site was because of all the recent arrests in the US related to bitcoin, gambling, etc. I provided the owner all the source code, etc to ensure that I didn't tamper with it etc. The site does need some work as Dooglus points out, but I feel the new owner is committed to making it a community-trusted site and will address those issues. I don't believe the new owner has "rigged" the site in any way, shape, or form. I also wanted to let the community know that in no way, shape, or form did I rig, modify, or add any backdoors, etc to the site. I'm committed to the clam community and support it, I think additional services and sites add value. I think the new owner will do right by the clam community. There's also a lot of drama that goes along with gambling sites, so I also wanted to distance myself from said drama as well. I wish the new owner the best of luck as well as the community and their clams Smiley


Dooglus wrote in last postring:
More seriously, I couldn't see the rules listed anywhere on the site, and there's nothing about how the probable fairness works. It shows you a sha256 hash of a list of cards before you play, and publishes the list of cards afterwards, but there's also a client seed (integer) and no indication of how the client seed affects the shuffle. So it's maybe provably fair, but there's not enough information on the site to know for sure, since I've no idea how to verify the deals.

could you shed some light for us regarding the provably fair option on your ex website? thanks
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 255
I am new here, I've had so far claim wallet, I want to mine stake, but fail to sync my wallet. I created clams.conf, I loaded OP Listed nodes, but does not work. Please help me step by step. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
3 Hours just five weeks more busy with another 26 weeks. Is it possible / likely go very slowly and eventually it will be synchronized?
It usually takes me a day to sync a new client. Speed it up by downloading the bootstrap file to your data folder(the same place that clams.conf is located). Shut your client down, download the bootstrap from: https://s3.amazonaws.com/dooglus/bootstrap.dat, then restart your client.

Thanks. I will try boostrap.dat
full member
Activity: 176
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I am new here, I've had so far claim wallet, I want to mine stake, but fail to sync my wallet. I created clams.conf, I loaded OP Listed nodes, but does not work. Please help me step by step. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
3 Hours just five weeks more busy with another 26 weeks. Is it possible / likely go very slowly and eventually it will be synchronized?
It usually takes me a day to sync a new client. Speed it up by downloading the bootstrap file to your data folder(the same place that clams.conf is located). Shut your client down, download the bootstrap from: https://s3.amazonaws.com/dooglus/bootstrap.dat, then restart your client.
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 255
I am new here, I've had so far claim wallet, I want to mine stake, but fail to sync my wallet. I created clams.conf, I loaded OP Listed nodes, but does not work. Please help me step by step. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
3 Hours just five weeks more busy with another 26 weeks. Is it possible / likely go very slowly and eventually it will be synchronized?
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 255
I am new here, I've had so far claim wallet, I want to mine stake, but fail to sync my wallet. I created clams.conf, I loaded OP Listed nodes, but does not work. Please help me step by step. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I don't believe the new owner has "rigged" the site in any way, shape, or form.

Me neither.

I made quite a few bets, and ended up with a small profit that I was able to withdraw.

I didn't identify myself, so I doubt they were letting me win because otherwise I would give a bad review.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
I just played at https://www.joker21.com - BlackJack for CLAM.

People in the Just-Dice chat were complaining it was "rigged" and asked me to go check it out, so I did.

I didn't identify myself there, just turned up as a random player. There's a faucet which sometimes gave me 5000 clamtoshis and sometimes just 1337, but either way that's enough to try the site out.

The dealer got lucky a few times, but that happens. I was able to turn my 5k to 20k before busting it.

Then I deposited 10 CLAM, and was able to bet 1 CLAM a few times, getting up to 11 or 12 CLAM before the max bet dropped below 1 CLAM. I bet 0.8 CLAM a few times and ended up withdrawing 10.6 CLAM. The withdrawal was instant.

The site appeared to crash a couple of times while I was playing, the animations are a bit glitchy, when the dealer has an ace it shows as being worth "1/10" when it should be "1/11", and CBI was complaining of losing a hand where he split 10's, got a 21, and lost to a 5-card 21 by the dealer. "Dealer 5 card Charlies aren't a thing" or something.

More seriously, I couldn't see the rules listed anywhere on the site, and there's nothing about how the probable fairness works. It shows you a sha256 hash of a list of cards before you play, and publishes the list of cards afterwards, but there's also a client seed (integer) and no indication of how the client seed affects the shuffle. So it's maybe provably fair, but there's not enough information on the site to know for sure, since I've no idea how to verify the deals.


Just a public service announcement here in response to Dooglus's post. I was the original owner of the site a couple months ago when it was a bitcoin blackjack site. The site was offline for 2 months to ensure no new players or deposits were made. I sold the site to a new owner outside the US last week to a community member. The reason why I sold the site was because of all the recent arrests in the US related to bitcoin, gambling, etc. I provided the owner all the source code, etc to ensure that I didn't tamper with it etc. The site does need some work as Dooglus points out, but I feel the new owner is committed to making it a community-trusted site and will address those issues. I don't believe the new owner has "rigged" the site in any way, shape, or form. I also wanted to let the community know that in no way, shape, or form did I rig, modify, or add any backdoors, etc to the site. I'm committed to the clam community and support it, I think additional services and sites add value. I think the new owner will do right by the clam community. There's also a lot of drama that goes along with gambling sites, so I also wanted to distance myself from said drama as well. I wish the new owner the best of luck as well as the community and their clams Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
I just played at https://www.joker21.com - BlackJack for CLAM.

People in the Just-Dice chat were complaining it was "rigged" and asked me to go check it out, so I did.

I didn't identify myself there, just turned up as a random player. There's a faucet which sometimes gave me 5000 clamtoshis and sometimes just 1337, but either way that's enough to try the site out.

The dealer got lucky a few times, but that happens. I was able to turn my 5k to 20k before busting it.

Then I deposited 10 CLAM, and was able to bet 1 CLAM a few times, getting up to 11 or 12 CLAM before the max bet dropped below 1 CLAM. I bet 0.8 CLAM a few times and ended up withdrawing 10.6 CLAM. The withdrawal was instant.

The site appeared to crash a couple of times while I was playing, the animations are a bit glitchy, when the dealer has an ace it shows as being worth "1/10" when it should be "1/11", and CBI was complaining of losing a hand where he split 10's, got a 21, and lost to a 5-card 21 by the dealer. "Dealer 5 card Charlies aren't a thing" or something.

More seriously, I couldn't see the rules listed anywhere on the site, and there's nothing about how the probable fairness works. It shows you a sha256 hash of a list of cards before you play, and publishes the list of cards afterwards, but there's also a client seed (integer) and no indication of how the client seed affects the shuffle. So it's maybe provably fair, but there's not enough information on the site to know for sure, since I've no idea how to verify the deals.
elm
legendary
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legendary
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
I just wish I would have hung onto the Crypto for Kids Clams (the event was November).  Would have made a nice donation this year. 
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
WTF is up with CLAM diving almost 20% in the past day?

I guess people see BTC price going up and CLAM price going down and decide to switch from CLAM to BTC.

Classic sell (CLAM) low, buy (BTC) high strategy. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1806
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
WTF is up with CLAM diving almost 20% in the past day?

Firesale I guess, although it could just be adjusting to the average Bitcoin price going up
Unless someone just won big on just-dice and I didn't check the news yet
(Also looks like its a return to norm trendwise)
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1030
Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
WTF is up with CLAM diving almost 20% in the past day?

I have given up trying to figure ALTs out!!  Just hold on and enjoy the ride!!!
legendary
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WTF is up with CLAM diving almost 20% in the past day?
hero member
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