So since just-dice stakes the majority of clams daily, what happens if that staking stops?
How does it affect the network?
2nd question is:
Sometimes my staking icon turns red, like it stops staking.. I have mature coins though, why is it doing this?
Note, i'm on v1.4.7 and sometimes I do get stakes.
Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 376. (Read 1151252 times)
February 19, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
February 19, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
Nice dooglus that you put it in terms of betting luck.
Staking is pretty much like betting, except you get your stake back whether you win or lose... it's a free lottery that you get to enter every 16 seconds.
February 19, 2015, 05:13:03 PM
Nice dooglus that you put it in terms of betting luck.
February 19, 2015, 02:59:02 PM
One of the reasons for the message you're seeing is that transactions can't be bigger than 100kB in size. It seems unlikely that that is the problem unless you have hundreds of tiny outputs in your wallet from farming a faucet or something.
You're right this all come from seedtrue faucet and have many hundred transaction
I was try to send just 2 clam and that message still appear
i don't know what to do
max balance 1.7 clam was succeed sending
Well, each input to a transaction adds roughly 150 bytes to the transaction size, and transactions can be no bigger than 100k bytes.
100k / 150 = 666, so you're limited to about 666 inputs per transaction.
The biggest transactions to recently appear on the blockchain:
http://khashier.com/tx/610f97832734b598e59d94124e995f845fe6e1678cdf8435c65c5196eb097666
654 inputs, 2 outputs, 96585 bytes
http://khashier.com/tx/16ac565c4c0e6840427dc6bc4b591152200216b1d1e0c623a599d3798435b2e6
659 inputs, 2 outputs, 97324 bytes
http://khashier.com/tx/3f3dcdcbc958b46d2157b5d42c1596ead49fa1642fdb67f93943580e587d8901
608 inputs, 1 output, 89765 bytes
I guess those were yours, and as you can see each is close to the 100kB limit. So that's why it was failing when you tried to send all your outputs in a single transaction.
February 19, 2015, 11:44:44 AM
I'm still waiting on a stake with my 9.24101359 CLAM
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
It could take a month, two or even three before you stake one clam. Nothing to worry about.
February 19, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
everytime update new wallet 
everything is oke
but tell me why this happen
http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3a/142424984926.jpg
I think it means that you're trying to spend more than you have available when you add in the network fees.
Try spending 0.0001 less. And if that fails, 0.0001 less, etc.
I'll have that message be more specific about how much you're short in a future release.
After looking at the code, it appears that if that was the reason, it would have told you.
I've added debugging to the code so future releases will put the reason for the failure in the log at least.
One of the reasons for the message you're seeing is that transactions can't be bigger than 100kB in size. It seems unlikely that that is the problem unless you have hundreds of tiny outputs in your wallet from farming a faucet or something.
If you're willing to help me figure out what's going on, PM me and I'll see what I can do.
You're right this all come from seedtrue faucet and have many hundred transaction
I was try to send just 2 clam and that message still appear
i don't know what to do
max balance 1.7 clam was succeed sending
February 19, 2015, 08:21:56 AM
I'm still waiting on a stake with my 9.24101359 CLAM
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
Yes this is correct, also worth making sure you are getting enough connections to the wallet. If you are firewalled then port forward 31174.
February 19, 2015, 06:01:37 AM
I'm still waiting on a stake with my 9.24101359 CLAM
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
It fluctuates between 26 & 35 days for stake and has a constant weight of 9 that never changes, my wallet has been open since receiving them initially, does all this sound correct ?
February 19, 2015, 05:25:16 AM
How many CLAMs is good enough to keep up for staking?
The rate of staking is proportional to the number of CLAMs.
So twice as many is twice as good, but half as many is only half as good.
Simple as that
Well, it was a silly question.
February 19, 2015, 04:54:33 AM
How many CLAMs is good enough to keep up for staking?
The rate of staking is proportional to the number of CLAMs.
So twice as many is twice as good, but half as many is only half as good.
Simple as that
February 19, 2015, 04:46:19 AM
All of the above plus, He didn't really get into the digging aspect of clams either. The fact that most users already own them, Etc....
It seems my comment wasn't accepted. But FreeJack's comment was. He wrote: "Proof Of Shellfish". Such journalism.
February 19, 2015, 04:45:00 AM
How many CLAMs is good enough to keep up for staking?
The rate of staking is proportional to the number of CLAMs.
So twice as many is twice as good, but half as many is only half as good.
February 19, 2015, 03:41:32 AM
How many CLAMs is good enough to keep up for staking?
February 18, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
everytime update new wallet everything is oke
but tell me why this happen
http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3a/142424984926.jpg
I think it means that you're trying to spend more than you have available when you add in the network fees.
Try spending 0.0001 less. And if that fails, 0.0001 less, etc.
I'll have that message be more specific about how much you're short in a future release.
After looking at the code, it appears that if that was the reason, it would have told you.
I've added debugging to the code so future releases will put the reason for the failure in the log at least.
One of the reasons for the message you're seeing is that transactions can't be bigger than 100kB in size. It seems unlikely that that is the problem unless you have hundreds of tiny outputs in your wallet from farming a faucet or something.
If you're willing to help me figure out what's going on, PM me and I'll see what I can do.
February 18, 2015, 04:29:01 PM
NewsBTC article about CLAMs: http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/18/new-cryptocurrency-clam-rising-without-hitch/
I tried to post a comment, but it didn't show up. Maybe it's waiting for moderation, I'm not sure:
Quote
Nice write-up. I have a few comments:
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
All of the above plus, He didn't really get into the digging aspect of clams either. The fact that most users already own them, Etc....
Just goes to show there is plenty more teaching to be done.
February 18, 2015, 03:57:19 PM
NewsBTC article about CLAMs: http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/18/new-cryptocurrency-clam-rising-without-hitch/
I tried to post a comment, but it didn't show up. Maybe it's waiting for moderation, I'm not sure:
Quote
Nice write-up. I have a few comments:
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
All of the above plus, He didn't really get into the digging aspect of clams either. The fact that most users already own them, Etc....
February 18, 2015, 03:22:39 PM
NewsBTC article about CLAMs: http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/18/new-cryptocurrency-clam-rising-without-hitch/
I tried to post a comment, but it didn't show up. Maybe it's waiting for moderation, I'm not sure:
Quote
Nice write-up. I have a few comments:
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
> Meet CLAM, a new cryptocurrency
It's not all that new. It has been around since May 2014.
> which has been steadily rising ever since it was lauched
That's not really true. It only started rising in December. Before that the price was steadily falling, pretty much.
> As we can conclude from the above chart, CLAM’s market cap is displaying uninterruptible
> flux of investments since the day it entered trading. It’s market cap, which initiated from a
> mere $816,447, today has peaked to over $1 million — in just over a month
Well, again no. That sudden increase from $0 to $816k indicates the day that coinmarketcap started tracking the data. I have been trying to get them to include the historical data in their chart, even providing the data for them to use, but so far I've had no luck:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10379165
> something that reminded us of NXT network
CLAM is actually a distant descendant of Bitcoin (via Litecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin, and probably more). NXT is its own thing, unrelated to Bitcoin, although it is proof-of-stake which may be why it reminded you of CLAM.
> small exchanges, which include Poloniex, Yacuna and most notable Cryptsy
While Cryptsy is the biggest exchange listing CLAM, almost all the trading happens on Poloniex. Probably because they were the first to add a CLAM/BTC market.
If I may be so rude as to include a little ad, Just-Dice.com started accepting CLAM when the price started shooting upwards in December. CLAM is the only currency Just-Dice accepts. The site stakes the CLAMs it holds on users' behalf and distributes the staking profits between them (after taking a cut, of course!)
February 18, 2015, 01:31:09 PM
NewsBTC article about CLAMs: http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/18/new-cryptocurrency-clam-rising-without-hitch/
February 18, 2015, 01:00:09 PM
Here's some of the debugging info... does "fail" mean it simply didn't find a suitable result that round, or that there's some issue?
The "fail" just means it failed to stake that time.
Both your outputs are trying to stake:
The only time it's showing PASS is when a network block arrives... I presume that's because the debug info is printed in AcceptBlock() (or whatever it's called).
Right. The same logic is used to check other people's blocks as to check your potential blocks.
Edit: I reworked a bunch of this post because I realised I had some stuff wrong.
Also, I notice that your 98 CLAM output was created on 7th February - just 11 days ago. Maybe you had a similar amount before and were just moving things around, but note that each time you move an output it stops trying to stake for 4 hours.
February 18, 2015, 12:45:50 PM
everytime update new wallet everything is oke
but tell me why this happen
http://m.UploadEdit.com/ba3a/142424984926.jpg
I think it means that you're trying to spend more than you have available when you add in the network fees.
Try spending 0.0001 less. And if that fails, 0.0001 less, etc.
I'll have that message be more specific about how much you're short in a future release.
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