[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 393.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 15, 2015, 10:06:42 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

It's a mistake to think of those as "your" addresses.

Your addresses are exactly those for which you control the private key.

If you had the private key of "your" deposit address on an exchange, you could "undeposit" coins as soon as they were credited to "your" account. (Note, its not really your account either - it's an entry in their database and they probably reserve the right to terminate it at any time for any reason).

Thinking of balances on exchanges as being "yours" is what leads to people losing huge sums when the exchange has a leak in their cold wallet. Or whatever.

So true.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 15, 2015, 10:15:45 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 10:13:42 PM

wow what a great Information for me ...thanks for educating me....

Sarcasm?

no really ...thanks...a lot... im only about a year in crypto..just buying havent tried Mining ... and I got burned of many coins already ....
when Clam was launch I claim on that right away but did not buy ...my big mistake.....because previously of my other coins that burned me...

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Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 10:13:42 PM

wow what a great Information for me ...thanks for educating me....

Sarcasm?

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Quote from: dooglus on January 15, 2015, 10:06:42 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

It's a mistake to think of those as "your" addresses.

Your addresses are exactly those for which you control the private key.

If you had the private key of "your" deposit address on an exchange, you could "undeposit" coins as soon as they were credited to "your" account. (Note, its not really your account either - it's an entry in their database and they probably reserve the right to terminate it at any time for any reason).

Thinking of balances on exchanges as being "yours" is what leads to people losing huge sums when the exchange has a leak in their cold wallet. Or whatever.

wow what a great Information for me ...thanks for educating me....

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Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

It's a mistake to think of those as "your" addresses.

Your addresses are exactly those for which you control the private key.

If you had the private key of "your" deposit address on an exchange, you could "undeposit" coins as soon as they were credited to "your" account. (Note, its not really your account either - it's an entry in their database and they probably reserve the right to terminate it at any time for any reason).

Thinking of balances on exchanges as being "yours" is what leads to people losing huge sums when the exchange has a leak in their cold wallet. Or whatever.

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 09:56:39 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:53:17 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 09:50:23 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

Depends if you have the private key or not.

Dooglus is also correct above. Tiny tiny network fee.

most of exchanges dont give give private key right? like Polo and cryptsy?

Correct

okay thanks ....i guess i just buy... clam ......

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Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:53:17 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 09:50:23 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

Depends if you have the private key or not.

Dooglus is also correct above. Tiny tiny network fee.

most of exchanges dont give give private key right? like Polo and cryptsy?

Correct

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 09:50:23 PM

Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

Depends if you have the private key or not.

Dooglus is also correct above. Tiny tiny network fee.

most of exchanges dont give give private key right? like Polo and cryptsy?

BayAreaCoins

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Quote from: ymod123 on January 15, 2015, 09:45:11 PM

can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

Depends if you have the private key or not.

Dooglus is also correct above. Tiny tiny network fee.

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can my doge , btc , LTC addresses in the exchange to get Clam?

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 09:37:38 PM

Wait for 10 confirmations and it will show up in your balance fee free!

You can also use the CLAM wallet if you want, but Just-dice offers that free, fast and simple service!

Minor correction: I think the transaction that moves your CLAM from their current location to the JD wallet includes a 0.0001 CLAM transaction fee, which you pay for, so it's not quite "fee free". Having said that, the fee is worth about a ~~tenth~~ hundredth of a US cent, so it's almost free.

Edit: for example:

http://khashier.com/tx/5ead1d917e39a937df013a444764d6206dd58d22f1b74903a8c05c949affb2b1#o0

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Quote from: Bryansamba on January 15, 2015, 09:22:18 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 08:41:29 PM

Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

I went to JD and typed /dig DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

That address was not funded.

The address needs to have been in use on May 12th 2014.

That address you posted appears to be Nov 2014.

hi sir

may i know how to check when the address created ?

coz i got alot of doge address

thanks

Step 1: Come to www.Just-dice.com
Step 2: Go to the Chat tab.
Step 3: Type /dig

Tadda!

Or you can move all your coins off the wallets and DL the CLAM client. The CLAM client automatically sniff through your wallets searching for CLAM.

Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 09:29:50 PM

Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 08:41:29 PM

Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

I went to JD and typed /dig DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

That address was not funded.

The address needs to have been in use on May 12th 2014.

That address you posted appears to be Nov 2014.

Thanks for the quick reply! I got a new phone and so a new wallet,my old phone Doge address that was in use in May :D5Cje45mYUCjXwsaQ6zUZopjYQgrFnnSYB
Thanks again for checking.

18:34:07 INFO: CLAM address [x8NGzfyb] corresponding to DOGE address [D5Cje45m] was funded with 4.60545574 CLAM when the initial distribution was made; the CLAMs have not been spent and are waiting for you to collect them; use /dig ADDRESS PRIVKEY to have them dug up and sent to your deposit address for this account; the private key you provide will not be logged, and will be discarded immediately after use; having said that it is best to move any BTC/LTC/DOGE at that address to a new address first just to be on the safe side

Congrats you have CLAMS on this address.

Now you need to move all the DOGE off that address and never use it again.

Come to www.just-dice.com and type.

/dig D5Cje45mYUCjXwsaQ6zUZopjYQgrFnnSYB

No <>'s

Wait for 10 confirmations and it will show up in your balance fee free!

You can also use the CLAM wallet if you want, but Just-dice offers that free, fast and simple service!

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 08:41:29 PM

Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

I went to JD and typed /dig DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

That address was not funded.

The address needs to have been in use on May 12th 2014.

That address you posted appears to be Nov 2014.

Thanks for the quick reply! I got a new phone and so a new wallet,my old phone Doge address that was in use in May :D5Cje45mYUCjXwsaQ6zUZopjYQgrFnnSYB
Thanks again for checking.

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on January 15, 2015, 08:41:29 PM

Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

I went to JD and typed /dig DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

That address was not funded.

The address needs to have been in use on May 12th 2014.

That address you posted appears to be Nov 2014.

hi sir

may i know how to check when the address created ?

coz i got alot of doge address

thanks

shitcointrader

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Thanks for the quick reply! I got a new phone and so a new wallet,my old phone Doge address that was in use in May :D5Cje45mYUCjXwsaQ6zUZopjYQgrFnnSYB
Thanks again for checking.

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Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

I went to JD and typed /dig DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

That address was not funded.

The address needs to have been in use on May 12th 2014.

That address you posted appears to be Nov 2014.

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Quote from: shitcointrader on January 15, 2015, 08:39:03 PM

Quote from: istvandv on January 14, 2015, 06:35:48 PM

Quote from: CryptoStar on January 14, 2015, 03:06:58 AM

Hi community. Need some help. I use my dodge wallet ( DRiRh7H8Rho4ipFeg7PaJeA5n5iaq7Uajr ) created January 2014. Go import and nothing( is it lottery or any wallet can claim coins?). Then I try put wallet in clam Appdata directory and after start wallet receive Warning: error reading wallet.dat!
Any idea? Thank You

you have clams waiting for you, i just checked:

<+SuperClam> DRiRh7H8Rho4ipFeg7PaJeA5n5iaq7Uajr was included in initial distrubution
<+SuperClam> current status: unspent

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

You just posted a different address than you verified. Maybe that's related to the issue...

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Quote from: istvandv on January 14, 2015, 06:35:48 PM

Quote from: CryptoStar on January 14, 2015, 03:06:58 AM

Hi community. Need some help. I use my dodge wallet ( DRiRh7H8Rho4ipFeg7PaJeA5n5iaq7Uajr ) created January 2014. Go import and nothing( is it lottery or any wallet can claim coins?). Then I try put wallet in clam Appdata directory and after start wallet receive Warning: error reading wallet.dat!
Any idea? Thank You

you have clams waiting for you, i just checked:

<+SuperClam> DRiRh7H8Rho4ipFeg7PaJeA5n5iaq7Uajr was included in initial distrubution
<+SuperClam> current status: unspent

Any chance someone could check my Doge address,I've installed the Clam client and moved the dat file and all and 0 Clams. I've been holding Doge since day one!!
DTUzwu7GXEzpYsYc8983gtRPrTBWYSdTuG

Thanks

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Just a reminder - Dont forget the IRS if American -

Per US Guidelines - Read 8 & 9 of linked http://www.irs.gov/irb/2014-16_IRB/ar12.html - Mining (Staking) <--didn't see this part fuck tard coins is due to self employment tax if in the US
Q–9: Is an individual who “mines” virtual currency as a trade or business subject to self-employment tax on the income derived from those activities?

A–9: If a taxpayer’s “mining” of virtual currency constitutes a trade or business, and the “mining” activity is not undertaken by the taxpayer as an employee, the net earnings from self-employment (generally, gross income derived from carrying on a trade or business less allowable deductions) resulting from those activities constitute self-employment income and are subject to the self-employment tax. See Chapter 10 of Publication 334, Tax Guide for Small Business, for more information on self-employment tax and Publication 535, Business Expenses, for more information on determining whether expenses are from a business activity carried on to make a profit.

So if you are somebody like BayAreaCoins in the US who is profiting about 100 Clams a day and paying Dooglus 10% - the US TAX man also would get 18% at the USD daily rate

For example using the price allotations below BTC/Clam x USD /BTX * # of BTC could mean owing the US $18 a day if 100 Clams x USD Price of Clams = $100

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10092147

Why would I ever pay on USD that I didn't earn?

If CLAM heads to 0 like you say then I wouldn't owe anything right? Roll Eyes

Thanks for your interpretation of the laws + that extra bit you threw in that wasn't there. Tongue

I have confidence in my CPA and not much income, so I sleep easy at night.

Consider this a write request not to use me in your examples any more or anything else... it's getting old and I'd rather just not talk to you or hear you talk about me.

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Quote from: caex on January 15, 2015, 04:31:47 PM

How long mature this coin for staking?

Look up just 4 posts above yours:

Quote from: dooglus on January 15, 2015, 02:31:39 AM

Coins can't stake if they (1) have been involved in a transaction in the last 4 hours or (2) have staked in the last 500 blocks.

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