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Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 395. (Read 1151252 times)

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Sorry my post was badly phrased, I rephrased it. On one hand, it is likely that CLAM will be more used as time passed which is bullish for CLAM. But on the other hand right now most CLAM use is for just-dice so it is bearish for CLAM because it means CLAM high price is very dependent of one bitcoin casino and one bitcoin user dooglus.

I'm working on a feature for Just-Dice that will allow investors there to only deposit a fraction of their CLAMs and still have them all invested. It will use the CLAMs they deposit as collateral, and effectively lend them the rest to invest.

I'm hoping this will solve the issue we have with centralisation. If the biggest holders of CLAM at JD take advantage of this feature and move the majority of their balance offsite, Just-Dice should end up with way less than 50% of the CLAMs, which would be good for CLAM as a whole. Nobody wants to see over 50% of the CLAMs in a single centralised location.

On the other hand, what if as well as moving their coins offsite they also then dump them on an exchange, deciding that it's safer to hold them in BTC. That would be bad for the price, and may well end up with the coins being bought on the exchange and redeposited back onto JD by their new owners...

I guess we'll see how it goes.

I have a prototype up and running with play coins at doge-dice.com - you get 1000 free play coins when you visit, and you can get your 'loan' by typing /cold in the chat after investing.

I wasn't considering people dumping, but that makes sense as well. In any case, I am thinking it's probably better to have the outcome come out now, rather than later. It will help better analyze the market and see how things are going to work out.

doge-coin now redirects to just-dice.
The new feature will allow potential bigger profit so it could be bullish for CLAM Wink Some investors will get burn and lose their CLAM which means they will have to buy more CLAM to re-invest.
legendary
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Sorry my post was badly phrased, I rephrased it. On one hand, it is likely that CLAM will be more used as time passed which is bullish for CLAM. But on the other hand right now most CLAM use is for just-dice so it is bearish for CLAM because it means CLAM high price is very dependent of one bitcoin casino and one bitcoin user dooglus.

I'm working on a feature for Just-Dice that will allow investors there to only deposit a fraction of their CLAMs and still have them all invested. It will use the CLAMs they deposit as collateral, and effectively lend them the rest to invest.

I'm hoping this will solve the issue we have with centralisation. If the biggest holders of CLAM at JD take advantage of this feature and move the majority of their balance offsite, Just-Dice should end up with way less than 50% of the CLAMs, which would be good for CLAM as a whole. Nobody wants to see over 50% of the CLAMs in a single centralised location.

On the other hand, what if as well as moving their coins offsite they also then dump them on an exchange, deciding that it's safer to hold them in BTC. That would be bad for the price, and may well end up with the coins being bought on the exchange and redeposited back onto JD by their new owners...

I guess we'll see how it goes.

I have a prototype up and running with play coins at doge-dice.com - you get 1000 free play coins when you visit, and you can get your 'loan' by typing /cold in the chat after investing.

I wasn't considering people dumping, but that makes sense as well. In any case, I am thinking it's probably better to have the outcome come out now, rather than later. It will help better analyze the market and see how things are going to work out.
hero member
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Sorry my post was badly phrased, I rephrased it. On one hand, it is likely that CLAM will be more used as time passed which is bullish for CLAM. But on the other hand right now most CLAM use is for just-dice so it is bearish for CLAM because it means CLAM high price is very dependent of one bitcoin casino and one bitcoin user dooglus.

I'm working on a feature for Just-Dice that will allow investors there to only deposit a fraction of their CLAMs and still have them all invested. It will use the CLAMs they deposit as collateral, and effectively lend them the rest to invest.

I'm hoping this will solve the issue we have with centralisation. If the biggest holders of CLAM at JD take advantage of this feature and move the majority of their balance offsite, Just-Dice should end up with way less than 50% of the CLAMs, which would be good for CLAM as a whole. Nobody wants to see over 50% of the CLAMs in a single centralised location.

On the other hand, what if as well as moving their coins offsite they also then dump them on an exchange, deciding that it's safer to hold them in BTC. That would be bad for the price, and may well end up with the coins being bought on the exchange and redeposited back onto JD by their new owners...

I guess we'll see how it goes.

I have a prototype up and running with play coins at doge-dice.com - you get 1000 free play coins when you visit, and you can get your 'loan' by typing /cold in the chat after investing.


hope this works dooglus, seems like only select few own all clam. got to get more people aware of CLAM. and got to get more places to accept CLAM
hero member
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i just started using this ha solo mine?
Sorry? I don't get your question. If you mean can you solo mine, then the answer is no.

Clam is a PoS coin. You earn by holding coins and keeping an unencrypted client open (or daemon).



Or on the just-dice bankroll. 1 CLAM is awarded every minute. If you have 1% of all CLAM coins you have 1% chance of getting 1 CLAM (+transactions fees) every minute.
legendary
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Sorry my post was badly phrased, I rephrased it. On one hand, it is likely that CLAM will be more used as time passed which is bullish for CLAM. But on the other hand right now most CLAM use is for just-dice so it is bearish for CLAM because it means CLAM high price is very dependent of one bitcoin casino and one bitcoin user dooglus.

I'm working on a feature for Just-Dice that will allow investors there to only deposit a fraction of their CLAMs and still have them all invested. It will use the CLAMs they deposit as collateral, and effectively lend them the rest to invest.

I'm hoping this will solve the issue we have with centralisation. If the biggest holders of CLAM at JD take advantage of this feature and move the majority of their balance offsite, Just-Dice should end up with way less than 50% of the CLAMs, which would be good for CLAM as a whole. Nobody wants to see over 50% of the CLAMs in a single centralised location.

On the other hand, what if as well as moving their coins offsite they also then dump them on an exchange, deciding that it's safer to hold them in BTC. That would be bad for the price, and may well end up with the coins being bought on the exchange and redeposited back onto JD by their new owners...

I guess we'll see how it goes.

I have a prototype up and running with play coins at doge-dice.com - you get 1000 free play coins when you visit, and you can get your 'loan' by typing /cold in the chat after investing.
legendary
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I presume this is generated "live" based on the current page, rather than you precomputing everything... if you were able to do the latter I doubt you'd be sharing it with us. Smiley

Perhaps you could set up robots.txt to exclude most or all pages, so that crawlers don't waste resources indexing what is for all practical purposes a never ending site?

Correct Tongue

Ya I sure can tomorrow.
legendary
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CLAM to www.Buttcoins.com

Basically the site just shows how the private keys from Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin and Clamcoin are all the same.

The site lists all possible addresses, so basically it is like a free lotto for people with a lot of free time (and possibly pot.) Cheesy

Site is finished yet, but I'm "digging" it!

I presume this is generated "live" based on the current page, rather than you precomputing everything... if you were able to do the latter I doubt you'd be sharing it with us. Smiley

Perhaps you could set up robots.txt to exclude most or all pages, so that crawlers don't waste resources indexing what is for all practical purposes a never ending site?
legendary
Activity: 4004
Merit: 1250
Owner at AltQuick.com
CLAM to www.Buttcoins.com

Basically the site just shows how the private keys from Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dogecoin and Clamcoin are all the same.

The site lists all possible addresses, so basically it is like a free lotto for people with a lot of free time (and possibly pot.) Cheesy

Site is finished yet, but I'm "digging" it!
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
i just started using this ha solo mine?
Sorry? I don't get your question. If you mean can you solo mine, then the answer is no.

Clam is a PoS coin. You earn by holding coins and keeping an unencrypted client open (or daemon).

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i just started using this ha solo mine?
hero member
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
Question please, i have bitcoin on poloniex could i have clams stashed away? Ok i've tried downloading clam wallet and having trouble with my linux os, i download, extracted but cannot get it started  Undecided  Is anyone willing to help a fellow clam noobie please?
If the BTC was included in the initial distribution you should have CLAMs in your Polo account.
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Question please, i have bitcoin on poloniex could i have clams stashed away? Ok i've tried downloading clam wallet and having trouble with my linux os, i download, extracted but cannot get it started  Undecided  Is anyone willing to help a fellow clam noobie please?
hero member
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I can't seem to gain access to my clams. I import wallet, type in password then nothing happens. What's weird is if I type in the wrong password still nothing happens. My wallet isn't synced yet though, could that be why?

EDIT: Found the answer to my own question. Yes, that is why. The ditribution clams weren't created in the genesis block, but in a range of blocks spanning past block 4000
sr. member
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im always excited before to check my clam wallet Before to see if i stake something... Now I dont want to open it now.. knowing its impossible for me to stake for the amount
of coins i got...Sad
legendary
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Owner at AltQuick.com
Found out I had some clams, a bit late to the party though  Cheesy

Tell at least one friend about their CLAM Cheesy

Grats
hero member
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Found out I had some clams, a bit late to the party though  Cheesy

It's good to discover you have some CLAM now that it's at 0.004 than when it was 10 times less valuable Grin
newbie
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maybe someone give me some donate  Wink


You can buy them on polo, cryptsy,...
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trying import wallet.dat LTC, BTC, DOGE, etc
but sadly i have no luck to get my clam reward   Sad

hard to get free clam from faucet
how to mining with clam, whats the algo

maybe someone give me some donate  Wink

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BUY BUY CELL CELL
Found out I had some clams, a bit late to the party though  Cheesy
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Hopefully if just-dice decides to accept bitcoin, dooglus will add bitcoins slowly not to destroy the CLAM value. CLAM may be used more widely than just-dice before just-dice closes.


You love talking hypotheticals that are almost certain to never happen.  Clam will be used more widely then JD, its an inevitable fact of exposure which JD is giving plenty of for clams.

Its been just over a month since JD reopened, why don't we give it some time...



Sorry my post was badly phrased, I rephrased it. On one hand, it is likely that CLAM will be more used as time passed which is bullish for CLAM. But on the other hand right now most CLAM use is for just-dice so it is bearish for CLAM because it means CLAM high price is very dependent of one bitcoin casino and one bitcoin user dooglus.
I completely agree that that much power in one person's hand goes against the idea of decentralization. However, Just-dice has been a... "good" thing for clam since it reopened.

FortuneJack has started taking clam bets; hopefully this levels the centralization problem soon.

Of course it has been a good thing, even a great thing and it will likely keep being a great thing for CLAM. CLAM has been good just-dice too because it allowed just-dice to reopened.
There are questions about the future of just-dice and CLAM that are interesting to discuss for someone having CLAM.
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