Topic: [ANN][CLOAK] Private, Secure, Untraceable & Decentralized Digital Currency - page 330. (Read 810899 times)

i will not start kiddie war here in this thread with you...

@c4shm3n more reasons to rebrand CLOAK!

I don't want support from Alty or someone from the old shit team!!

@Alty
I don't understand if Clock is past tense for you, why do you have need to respond to some newbies posts here?
Are you going to give us support here or what? This could be most beneficial for everybody..(support).

The sheer ignorance in your response is tangible.

I was there from the start because I founded Cloakcoin... I know what went on and what happened during that time. I really don't think you do after reading your comments.

Cloak is already brand so we don't have "need" to change its name..We just need more popularity for price rise and this is only possible with more aggressive marketing.
Changing name, in this sitation when everybody already know for Cloak, is very bad.

Also bitcoin rising and this is natural for alts to faling so stay calm.

Else
          this is not fo you...

Now is not the time to rebrand, period. There is a wealth of name recognition out there that needs to be turned from bad to good, not erased. Keep the name, promote the product EVERYWHERE and lets give c4shm3n the support he deserves. Remember, without him, we would all have NOTHING to consider rebranding...

Wish I had an arbitration bot between Bittrex and livecoin    some real coin to be made

Hey Cashmen,

Keep up the good work! Nothing but respect for you!

Hi liquidflames,

thanks for sharing you mind with us. I already talked many times about re branding in team. This is not new for us. We need to talk again in team about and we will come back to public with a decision about.

peace and love!

Hey Lab Rat,

I kind of expected to get the newb comment and fare enough. But I was here from the beginning and only now decided to jump into the fire with all of you.

Never have I intended to disrespect Cashmen. We owe him everything for his hard work. I do believe there is a bright future for Cloak I just wanted to say what I think some of us are thinking. I'm still holding strong like all of us regardless of the name change or not.


And yes, I literally laughed out loud when Alty replied....didn't see that one coming. Gone are the days when we would wake up in the morning and be so excited to see his name on the thread.......what a joke

Thanks for this.

@Alty,

do you have conscience? After all this scam and shit what you did with CLOAK and all projects before(you know which i mean) you are still using you dirty scammer nick and you are still proud of this scam?

You are shocking me!

If i was you i would change my nick my ID and shut up! But no, not you! You are so cheeky to come here and start again talking all this shit! = UNBELIEVABLE!


And now about yours NONSENSE talking!

"During my time in cloak we built:"

"Exchange anon." = WHAT is it? or do you mean 20k CLOAKS what you paid to bittrex richie  to add CLOAK for p&d scam? (confirmed by richie)

"In wallet trading." = You mean p&d hype bullshit what nobody needs? (The new team dropped this bullshit from new wallet cause nobody need this shit)

"The first versions of proof of stake anonymity that I labelled PoSA." = (The first POS "anon" was not anon = 0, Its failed the audit the code was bullshit. You hype failed with posa1. Yes you gave this scam a name but nothing else! POSA3 has nothing to do with you scammy hype shit. Its based on Coinjoin. Yours scammer coder used absolutely different tech. (Read POSA3 Whitepaper for better understanding).

All what you and your old team done was hype-bullshit-nonsense talking for planed p&d scam with BOB.

For next time think about what you should say and where you should do this!

In you RISE bullshit there you can tell so much bullshit storys as you wish, but forget CLOAK for ever!

so, we got 2 newbies out of the blue pushing for rebranding.....    
and

isn't it kinda interesting that alty is still watching this thread.................!     curious

a lot of new people are coming, will come to cloak, who have no idea what the 1st few months were like and don't care.
i was there, lost my ass like most people, but i don't care because the the FUTURE of this coin is SO FREEKING BRIGHT
i trust  c4shm3n     give the guy a break


let's all try to be helpful                                         ok ?

cloak is a "phoenix rising from the ashes"   story.    i hope the guy writing the book gets that

Who the fuck need that? In wallet trading is the biggest shit i every saw
Your team integrated it only to pump your shit better...

I have been with Cloak since the beginning and saw all my investment go to practically nothing (around 35,000 USD). It was a very humbling experience but I stayed on because I believed in the product. Not soon after did we have the gut wrenching announcement by the Dagger that he was throwing in the towel.

2 years on, with all the information out there, we can pretty much sum up that Alty and Dagger either 1: got in way over their heads, or 2: It was all a money making scam. We can debate all we want but what happened....happened. On top of all of this we now know that there was a HUGE pump and dump scheme run by Bobsurplus. There was a great read about it written by someone who was in on the PnD scheme and I can't be bothered finding it but it is on Google.

Now came the White Knight, Cashmen. He took over the product and realized THERE WASN'T EVEN A PRODUCT TO BE HAD! In short, Cloak Coin was nothing. However, from the ground up him and his team worked extremely hard over the next year and a half creating a (new) Cloak that was worthy of the big boys.

After all this, since the biggest release ever for Cloak (POSA3), it had a small rise and a steady fall to what it is now. It is steady between 10-20 Satoshi. Unfortunately, I personally believe that this is what Cloak is 100% worth. Not the product, but the name.

The Cloak story is stuff of legend among the Crypto community. Even new comers in the community know about the story of Cloak. So the absolute main problem we have here is the name, CLOAK. There are many brands/products that failed only because of some bad publicity. And we have A LOT of bad publicity from the past.

What we have now is a Coin that is just as good as the top contenders such as Dash, Dark, ETH, to name a few. However, they are in the 100's of thousands, if not millions of satoshi and we are stuck at 10,000. It's hard to give up an emotional commitment to something but it is time to do that very thing.

It is time we give up on Cloak and re-brand it into something it deserves to be. The new Cloak team got nothing from the old team except the name....CLOAK. In saying that, It should not be called Cloak anymore because Cloak is exactly that, Nothing (the name I mean).

In conclusion, Cloak will never rise to anything more than what it is today if we keep the tarnished name it is. Please read this with an open mind and not with your heart and hopefully you will see some truth in what I say. It took me 2 years to finally put this into words but I believe this to be the truth.

Change the Name and let's watch this coin grow to the size it deserves to be.