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Quote from: migello on June 29, 2017, 05:09:01 AM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)

(1000/15000000)*0,2*0,5*10000000 = 66,667$ and i would say 10,000,000 Trading Volume a week is really realistic or not?
And 66,667$ a week is pretty nice if you take in account that you had to pay around 510$ for the 1000 NVOT, so after around 8 weeks you got your invest back.

0.2% is 0.002, not 0.2, so its 0.66667$/week, also again, the volume already includes both sides - maker and a taker, so when a trade of 1BTC to 8ETH is made, that's 2 BTC volume, not 1 BTC, doubling it again (the volume, the 2 BTC) is nonsense

UUps you are right what a stupid mistake from me (and i study computer science.....) .
How high would you estimate the weekly trading volume for the start 10.000.000 is a bit high or not would say around 1kk to 5kk would be realistic.

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Quote from: UAE Seasider on June 29, 2017, 04:38:31 AM

With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

so, $16 m a year of fees is 8 Bil a year of volume, / 365 days = about $22 M a day volume, quite conservative IMHO

i think, with some money for PR, volume will be from half (75 mil) or same as REX (150 mil a day)

if a strong PR and gaining ground in the asian Markets MAYBE 200/250 mil a day in the best projection.

Yes I know very conservative but I think it nicely demonstrates how little is needed to reap even a modest return.

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Quote from: DotNetApp on June 29, 2017, 05:22:29 AM

Quote from: SEnergy on June 29, 2017, 04:48:21 AM

Quote from: SEnergy on June 29, 2017, 04:48:21 AM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)

(1000/15000000)*0,2*0,5*10000000 = 66,667$ and i would say 10,000,000 Trading Volume a week is really realistic or not?
And 66,667$ a week is pretty nice if you take in account that you had to pay around 510$ for the 1000 NVOT, so after around 8 weeks you got your invest back.

0.2% is 0.002, not 0.2, so its 0.66667$/week, also again, the volume already includes both sides - maker and a taker, so when a trade of 1BTC to 8ETH is made, that's 2 BTC volume, not 1 BTC, doubling it again (the volume, the 2 BTC) is nonsense

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Quote from: SEnergy on June 28, 2017, 12:43:25 PM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

yea that is the exact formula its still pretty decent lets say we have a weekly trading volume of 10,000,000 $ and only 0,2% fees (to lowball it we say only holder pays the fees)

EDIT Calculation:
(1000/15000000)*0,002*0,5*10000000 = 0,667$

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Quote from: DotNetApp on June 28, 2017, 12:00:10 PM

Quote from: SEnergy on June 28, 2017, 11:52:05 AM

....

I know what you mean and that there has to be a deadline and i will accept it even when it is the lower one.
But what i mean is it was just 1 unlucky day for all cryptos especially for Eth so it would be pretty nice if we imagined Deadline day would be 1 day later.
Also you have to think this was only possible becaus NVO delayed the deadline Day if they didnt do this they had a far more realistic price for the cryptocurrency than they have now. (hope it was understandable)
Also lets not argument and hope for a good working project

, im just as you say a little bit sad becaus there is a difference over 600$ from yesterday and today for me and i would say the todays price(its not even that high) reflect much more the eth price of the past 2-3 weeks than yesterday that was an exception.

but since coins went down almost by the same %, everyone lost basically same amount, not only you, so with your investment you should get almost the same amount of NVOT as you'd get any other day... as you said, the WHOLE cryptomarket went down in the last 2 days, even LTC, XRP, ETC, DASH and other currencies people used to invest as well - everyone "lost" investment in regards to $, but not in regards to NVOT

That fall of almost all crypto-currencies happened because of speculative news about ETH creator and it wasn't leading long, as I think red color had place to be only two days. I think that wasn't a reason for panic, but it was a reason to buy cheap coins Wink

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Quote from: mxdev on June 29, 2017, 04:34:04 AM

Quote from: Knepala on June 29, 2017, 03:54:27 AM

Quote from: UAE Seasider on June 29, 2017, 04:38:31 AM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

It's
your NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 of the trading volume.

No, it is NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 * 2, because the 0.2% fee is paid by maker AND taker.

Yes you are correct, had not taken that in account.

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With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

so, $16 m a year of fees is 8 Bil a year of volume, / 365 days = about $22 M a day volume, quite conservative IMHO

i think, with some money for PR, volume will be from half (75 mil) or same as REX (150 mil a day)

if a strong PR and gaining ground in the asian Markets MAYBE 200/250 mil a day in the best projection.

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Quote from: Knepala on June 29, 2017, 03:54:27 AM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

like... what was your point? do you think I invested only by randomly dropping by, not doing my math? also your numbers are ridiculously unrealistic and wrong... 1 billion DAILY trading volume? yeah, in 5 years... also you can't just randomly double the trading volume... it's (NVOTshare / 15000000) * fees * 0.5 * volume, I'm not sure about the fees, the volume already includes BOTH, taker's and a maker's sales

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I am looking at the participation in NVO more as buying shares in a company than simply a crypto, as they will distribute revenue from earnings.

From the Whitepaper
"50% of all fees per trade on the exchange will be automatically distributed to addresses with NVOT
on a weekly basis in the form of NVOS when the exchange is production ready. NVOS will have a
fixed price of $0.99 and can be traded for Bitcoin automatically using Counterparty exchange or
through the validator without fees. NVOT price will not be fixed and will be decided by the market."

With 15,000,000 NVO at a launch price of $0.51 they only need to generate fees of approx $16 m in a year and holders recoup 100% of their initial investment as a steady income stream year on year.

Any price appreciation of the NVOT on exchanges in the mean time will be a bonus for short term profiteers, but I can see many more advantages in holding if they deliver a successful product.

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I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

It's
your NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 of the trading volume.

No, it is NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 * 2, because the 0.2% fee is paid by maker AND taker.

Knepala

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I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

It's
your NVO share * 0,5 * 0,002 of the trading volume.

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Quote from: Lauda on June 28, 2017, 03:11:56 PM

I can buy some of them after some of u get in wallet. You can send me pm and price want you want. Ty

$10/NVOT

If everything works as described the developers, each holder of NVOT tokens will receive 0.2% weekly of the trading volume on a decentralized exchanger, which will be created by the NVO team.
If now an approximate daily trading volume $ 4 billion, and for example 25% ($ 1 billion) of this volume will be processed on a decentralized exchanger, then each owner of NVOT tokens will receive weekly about $ 0.93 per token or about 3,72 dollars monthly)))
( (1,000,000,000 * 0.2%) / 15,000,000 (total number of tokens) ) * 7 days = $ 0.93

If you have for example 1000 NVOT, then weekly you will receive $ 930 or $ 3720 monthly

And now imagine if the share of the decentralized exchanger will be 50% or 75% of the total volume)))

Or if the daily trading volume will be 10 billion)))

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The time-stamp for the conversion rates is: 19:00 UTC - 28/06/2017.

The total funds raised per currency:
BTC: 1590.919664
LTC: 7807.588
XRP: 1325280.390
ETH: 6477.095
MAID: 765482
DASH: 1916.643
WAVES: 31145.630
DOGE: 23577240.970
ETC: 4126.090

Conversion rates per currency into BTC*:
BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768

Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826

This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.

So glad the timestamp was made at a litte later, more favorable time after all, instead of at the instant of the closing. These altcoin rates are more representative for the rates that we have seen during the crowdsale then they were when the timer stopped. ETH for example was at 0.1 BTC at the closing.

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This was a very good project to watch, keep track of and discuss. And imagine that the important and more interesting things are still not done yet. Can't wait for the wallet to be working... I am quite worried about my addresses in so many places including counterwallet - I just want one last wallet solution.

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^^

1,590.919664 is only the amount of funding that was deposited as BTC

When you add in the BTC converted amounts from the other currencies in the crowdsale you will get to the total of 3,055.120324

LTC 7,807 x 0.0168819 = 131.81
XRP 1,325,280.39 x 0.00010822 = 143.42
ETH 6,477.095 x 0.122427 = 792.97
MAID 765,482 x 0.00019581 = 149.89
DASH 1,916.643 x 0.0713931 = 136.84
WAVES 3,1145.63 x 0.00167559 = 52.19
DOGE 23,577,239.97 x 0.00000109 = 25.7
ETC 4,126.09 x 0.00760768 = 31.39

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Quote from: BossMacko on June 28, 2017, 08:14:59 PM

With that limited supply of Tokens i will certainly keep my Tokens for awhile this is very promising token and i know that in the future the price will increase x3 or more fold.

sure it will.. just hold our tokens, and in just a matter of months, price may fold three times, what more than if we could hold it for a year and more, right? this project is so promising and has a great potential. we are so lucky to invest in this project.

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Quote from: Lauda on June 28, 2017, 03:11:56 PM

The time-stamp for the conversion rates is: 19:00 UTC - 28/06/2017.
The total funds raised per currency:
BTC: 1590.919664

blockchain says 1,590.92306824

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With that limited supply of Tokens i will certainly keep my Tokens for awhile this is very promising token and i know that in the future the price will increase x3 or more fold.

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