Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1271. (Read 9723748 times)

In my eyes, its pretty useless if there is no volume in the exchange.
The new exchanges keep poping up and the older ones adding DASH but all volume is on polo or bter pretty much...

 Define "community member"... 'cos I've never heard of that fella...

Probably a reverse troll paid by Monero Marketing Department trying to make Dash look bad. 

Frankly, one of your community members named "Herp" has been quite active in the Monero threads with trollish behavior.

The success can be measured this way -> People from other communities posting here on a daily basis. Do you see Dash people worried about the business and trolling the threads of other coins?  

please do NOT bring more of them here !
 
we have our hand full already
lol

I have to say, glad Dash community don't go to Monero's speculation pump thread or their ghost ANN thread. Keep developing and working on ur coin this is the way to go because we don't need spammers with 1 update per 1.5 years like them it's just bad over there.

SovereignBTC #84 Daniel Diaz on the Decentralized Governance System Behind the Dash Network
 
https://soundcloud.com/sovereignbtc/dan-diaz-dash-final

 A little bird told me that there is a new exchange in town that accepts InstantX transactions.

 That's how serious it's getting folk.

But still this relies on trust. Trust that these enlightened few will always continue to grow Dash in a fair and responsible way that benefits everyone. Maybe this is not misplaced trust and they will. I accept your point that what is good for Dash also benefits them so there is incentive to keep it fair.

Even so there may be scenarios where budgets are passed which majority of masternode operators don't want. This is why voting in elections is one vote per person, not one vote per million dollars of wealth a person has for example.  

In fact is it worth bothering to vote at all if so much voting power belongs to so few? The ability to vote looks good on paper and discussed in blogs. But in reality it looks like democracy but is more like plutocracy.

Anyway I hope I'm not heading for the troll list by writing these things, I like where Dash is heading in general and particularly like that it focuses on the properties of cash or money. At the moment I plan to stay invested in Dash because I have trust in the large holders to do the right things. But in my opinion this budget system needs a lot of thought.
  

That's not at all what I'm saying. What I'm saying is your proposed design "only the masternodes write the IX blockchain" can't work because there would be no "longest chain" anymore.



I see you creating strawmen, unwittingly or intentionally. If I had to guess it would be the former.

So you admit that Instant X transactions shouldn't be trusted without at least one confirmation by the miners?
Do you see the problem here?

Dash is not going to be "sprung" because it is not an obfuscation based medium. It does not make any claims to hide anything and the blockchain is totally transparent - there for all to see and verify.

The objective of the technology is to vastly improve on bitcoin's level of fungibility and therefore support the same level of anonymity as natural cash does (such as tangible paper money and precious metals). That it does that is beyond debate, so there's nothing to "prove". Even if a transaction can be traced from one address to another, so what ? The medium is still anonymous and de-anonymisation in terms of who the owner is of a particular address still requires information gleaned from outside of the blockchain.

Furthermore, the entire coin supply is being continually mixed. This creates such a level of ownership ambiguity over time that 1000 Shen's would not have a snowballs hope in hell of ever creating a systematic tracing mechanism that had a shred of reliability about it. This approach does not need "proving". Thousands of years of anonymous cash-based monetary media already has.

Now lets, examine the other case - that of obfuscation based monetary media. Those technologies do indeed have something to prove because practically every obfuscation technology known to man has been hacked, solved, cracked and smacked with the passage of time. They are the Daedalus and Icarus of cryptocurrency technology and one of them has already crashed and burned demonstrating that the weakest link in the chain is not "math" but blind faith in devs and anonymous mathematicians.

No monetary medium will ever garner more than the most tenuous adoption under those circumstances. The kind of Peter Todd "I use it to launder my bitcoin" adoption because that kind of tech is a timebomb waiting to blow up in people's faces, whether it's sketchy devs, NSA backdoors, can-opening tech, toxic wallets or plain old theft made possible by the total lack of visual accountability of those blockchains.

@gerhard Every time the thread gets bumped it help DASH spread the word

But I agree, that's why we have the ignore button for a less cluttered and saner experience.

I don't know if this was posted already, I checked but didn't see anything. Dash interview with Daniel Diaz, featured on the Sovereign BTC podcast and the Let's talk Bitcoin network:
https://soundcloud.com/sovereignbtc/dan-diaz-dash-final

There is and has been all the incentive in the world to do it. Even shorting with leverage is available these days. It has already been tried and you know it.

Perhaps a bounty could be put up if someone agrees to try to get it, for example for 30 days? Then after 30 days it could be determined whether the attempt was successful or not. Or are you afraid the attempt would fail and would rather prefer an ongoing uncertainty and excuses like "the bounty is not enough" or "no one has even tried"?

Come on really?
That is absolutely how it works.  You now must prove our statement  is false... We are stating that it's not possible to track coins once mixed 8 times. It's not up to us.... Your the one claiming its doesn't work... Nearly 2 years you guys have been making these claims... And nothing... Not once gave you proved us wrong.

thanks, its an interesting budget proposal to follow for sure.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/budget-proposal-proof-of-labour.8108/
 

yeah, these trolls promise so much and yet deliver sooo little  

Such a hopeless quest these trolls are on : using fud and lies to discredit Dash has not worked in the past and will not work in the future
but still they keep trying and trying and trying and simply not learning their postings are irrelevant beyond measurement.
 

By utilizing the Longest Chain Rule.



They don't even know themselves yet.