Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1606. (Read 9723858 times)

seriosuly.... Anonimity in a second layer means counterparties, so that can by definition not be anonymous.

I actually think it has a lot to do with trust.  Isn't that why miners choose one pool over another? They trust that the payout will be consistently good, that the operator is acting in the best interests of their coin/network, and especially the fact that the pool won't "get hacked."

The word "hacker" is only used to describe internal events to the outside world as an excuse for incompetence.  Like you said, the size of the organization is irrelevant -- it is all Gox!  It doesnt matter whether the attack/theft/whatever supposedly came from malicious parties within the organization, the organization itself, or an external 3rd party.

In the end, none of that matters. There are no "hackers" as it is an exercise in futility to classify and justify each and every lapse in security.  All that matters is that end-user trust/money (or decentralization, in this case) is compromised.

The blame lies wholly with
A) the users for putting their trust in an untrustworthy organization, and
B) the organization for not doing their due security dilligence  to maintain a trustworthy reputation.  

The problem is that we've relied so heavily for so long on the regulatory systems in place to protect us that we've forgotten these basic principles of reputation and trust.

So really, a well-intentioned mining pool that actually cares about its investment and continued profitability, won't ever "get hacked."  

That's good to see. Dash is insanely cheap at these prices...

Well the market certainly appears to be confident

Not really. You must remember, the core problem in bitcoin is the fact that if there are two separate transactions on the network that are trying to use the same inputs, the network doesn't know which the miners will go with. If you controlled a quorum, you could only signal which transaction the network will take. You still can't attack anything, i.e. everyone on the network will also know which is valid within moments and the other transaction will be rejected by the entire network at once.

Good point.  Follow the money and we will get our answer.  Maybe another Joe Rogan 3hr podcast and he will crack and say Dash.  It is bound to happen.

Even if you want to game the system, you can't buy enough, it's just physically impossible, to win all the spaces in a quorum.  The quorums are chosen based on the miner's hash number.

So it doesn't matter if you want to buy up as many as you can in order to mess with the quorums, it only takes one masternode to disagree for the transaction to be rejected.

Evan just announced yesterday that he thought of another factor to throw into the quorum chooser.  The age of the Masternode.  The first 1/4 of the earliest dates contribute 2 to the quorum, then the next 1/4, and the next, and finally the latest Masternodes, the last 1/4 to be set up.  So if you haven't already set up a masternode in each of those periods of time, you'll have no chance of controlling a quorum (even so it was already virtually impossible already).  And if you want to buy and "old" masternode, you'll have to trust the seller that they didn't keep the private key (which would be stupid)

(TX Won) If you release a normal TX, then IX a moment after. In this case, the IX transaction doesn't get any signatures, so it would never get approved.

(IX Won) Alternatively, if you release them at exactly the same time and half of the network accepted the normal TX, when IX is confirmed the other daemons would undo the TX in the memory pool and apply the IX transaction.

time to buy Dash 

Do we know anybody that is going to this?  Maybe AA will get asked a question...

I think Andreas' livelihood relies on Bitcoin supporters, if not MIT, etc... directly.  It's the only reason I can see that he doesn't acknowledge Dash.  In fact it's been well over a year since he acknowledged Darkcoin briefly.  Everything Dash has done and is doing, is / was inspired by Andreas.  We're big fans.  We've been making his predictions come true, yet he acts as if we don't exist.  Why?  (not asking you trolls)  I think it's because he would get hit hard in the pocket book if he said any more.  He may already have gotten in trouble in the past.  This is sad, because it means he can't be completely honest.  But I can understand that.

Dash price is strong

Well, it just has a hand up it, what you expect?

drkklvr is just to stupid to understand a joke.
Stupid troll 

Andreas Antonopoulos just gave a talk about protecting with bubbles vs growing an immune system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=810aKcfM__Q

At 20:48 he says:
"We are going to build bitcoin with encrypted anonymous private transactions."
(It would have been awesome for someone in the audience to yell out "Like DASH!" right after he said that.  LOL!)

Hmmmm.  How is that possible?  That would require a 2nd layer tech to keep 100% anonymous - so then not really Bitcoin?

Pseudonymous sure, but not 100% anonymous.  Video of the difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RVGpHZUKpw

Anyone else think it would be a good idea to get a question out about Dash at each of Andreas' talks?

Takes a real Dashtard to attack the coin they stole 98% of their code from, not to mention quote CNBC as a source  

Sorry Peter Todd, but you apparently are guilty of peddling some fine snake oil yourself:



Trolls gonna troll...  

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/03/bitcoin-to-be-6th-largest-reserve-currency-by-2030-research.html

Yeah, we know.

Not gonna lie.

I'm stealing this.   

Hashfast is #rekt