[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1638.

Bridgewater

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Quote from: moocowmoo on October 29, 2015, 09:05:24 PM

Quote from: Bridgewater on October 29, 2015, 06:35:16 PM

Every time I click to read the next page my place is lost due to incessant deletions of past content. If the goal of deleting old or unnecessary posts is to make the thread easier to read, then it has been a complete failure.

I can't offer a suggestion for browsing historic posts, but I keep this bookmark in my bookmarks bar to always take me to the new (unread) posts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.new#new

HTH

That actually works perfectly! Thanks MCM.

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Quote from: AzzAz on October 31, 2015, 06:17:48 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Macrochip on October 31, 2015, 05:38:26 PM

One more farewell post or more insecure trolling?

Sincere criticism is not trolling. There may be nothing Dash can do to erase its disastrous history, and that ultimately will likely lead to its demise, but there are things it can do now to avoid making matters even worse, which include not trying to hide the disastrous history.

Smooth, haven't you said you're done with this tread and will not post here anymore two-or so days ago?

No, I never said I won't post here any more. Maybe I said I was done with a particular conversation though.

AzzAz

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Quote from: bigrcanada on October 31, 2015, 06:24:39 PM

The following are known trolls…and have been engaging in aggressive and abusive forum behavior.

AdamWhite
TheDasher
ICEBREAKER
YOURMOTHER
Dnaleor
Smoothie
Smooth!

Though...We would like to thank them for keeping us top of mind on bitcointalk. As the saying goes... There is no bad publicity! Thanks…

"If someone says they really don't like your project, they really do like your project and are jealous!"

This is very useful post!

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Quote from: illodin on October 31, 2015, 06:34:16 PM

Quote from: bigrcanada on October 31, 2015, 06:30:00 PM

Quote from: megges on October 31, 2015, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:39:54 PM

.... If you talk to people in the crypto community who have nothing to do with either coin if they've heard of it, they are well aware of the "darkcoin instamine" ....

Oh this thread would have been so dead if you would have told that to our world improvers on mission ... mr. icebreaker and adam white ... who are just here to tell everybody "instamine intamine instamine" .... because they think nobody knows about it ...

and you are not better in that, you write that they are all very aware of the "instamine", but then on the other hand, you are talking about that we were hiding the facts of the launch .... how can a "fact" be hidden and at the same time known well by most?!

The fact is....we, DASH members are truly to blame. We keep being baited by their trolling and we keep feeding them. Its something that we bring on ourselves.

Well, having the most active and the most viewed altcoin thread can't be all bad, right? Cool

I agree.

the more they post the more they back themselves into a corner.

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Quote from: bigrcanada on October 31, 2015, 06:30:00 PM

Quote from: megges on October 31, 2015, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:39:54 PM

.... If you talk to people in the crypto community who have nothing to do with either coin if they've heard of it, they are well aware of the "darkcoin instamine" ....

Oh this thread would have been so dead if you would have told that to our world improvers on mission ... mr. icebreaker and adam white ... who are just here to tell everybody "instamine intamine instamine" .... because they think nobody knows about it ...

and you are not better in that, you write that they are all very aware of the "instamine", but then on the other hand, you are talking about that we were hiding the facts of the launch .... how can a "fact" be hidden and at the same time known well by most?!

The fact is....we, DASH members are truly to blame. We keep being baited by their trolling and we keep feeding them. Its something that we bring on ourselves.

Well, having the most active and the most viewed altcoin thread can't be all bad, right? Cool

bigrcanada

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Quote from: AdamWhite on October 31, 2015, 06:32:25 PM

you keep not answering the question I posed you...why?

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Quote from: megges on October 31, 2015, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:39:54 PM

.... If you talk to people in the crypto community who have nothing to do with either coin if they've heard of it, they are well aware of the "darkcoin instamine" ....

Oh this thread would have been so dead if you would have told that to our world improvers on mission ... mr. icebreaker and adam white ... who are just here to tell everybody "instamine intamine instamine" .... because they think nobody knows about it ...

and you are not better in that, you write that they are all very aware of the "instamine", but then on the other hand, you are talking about that we were hiding the facts of the launch .... how can a "fact" be hidden and at the same time known well by most?!

They might know about it, but the fact that eduffield continues to claim "it was just an accident" is a whole lot of hogwash.

The deception is obvious.. just look at the "0.00000000% Pre-mine" statement on the right of the DRK reddit page Roll Eyes

DASH simply cannot be trusted and deserves to be investigated.

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Quote from: megges on October 31, 2015, 06:26:03 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:39:54 PM

.... If you talk to people in the crypto community who have nothing to do with either coin if they've heard of it, they are well aware of the "darkcoin instamine" ....

Oh this thread would have been so dead if you would have told that to our world improvers on mission ... mr. icebreaker and adam white ... who are just here to tell everybody "instamine intamine instamine" .... because they think nobody knows about it ...

and you are not better in that, you write that they are all very aware of the "instamine", but then on the other hand, you are talking about that we were hiding the facts of the launch .... how can a "fact" be hidden and at the same time known well by most?!

The fact is....we, DASH members are truly to blame. We keep being baited by their trolling and we keep feeding them. Its something that we bring on ourselves. These clowns have been at it for a very long time....its no surprise for anyone here

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:31:50 PM

Quote from: the-baker on October 31, 2015, 05:03:11 PM

Just out of curiosity: Do you have any specific demands as to what should be changed in Dash so that you can make your peace with it, or is it more a situation where you won't rest until Evan publicly commits seppuku?

Talking about suicide is really hyperbolic. People need to keep things in perspective. We're talking about a tiny little toy coin compared to Bitcoin which is itself a tiny little toy coin compared to the fiat financial system. Let's not get some exaggerated sense of what is at stake here.

Well the sarcasm tag was obviously implied :-)

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:31:50 PM

At this point I don't know that there is anything Dash can do. The cryptocoin community just needs to move on to coins that don't have it's baggage, which in time I'm confident will happen, just as the Bitcoin community moved on from most of the worst scams and frauds. If you have constructive suggestions though other than "the instamine happened, get over it", or "we'll just delete everything from the OP and make believe it never happened", both of which I truly do not believe is ever going to work, I'm open to hearing them.

Well, if it's going to die anyway, there's really no point in wasting your time posting here. Just saying...

If I understand you correctly, it's only the instamine you're concerned about? Because I've seen quite a few posters who will jump from one issue to the next in different comments, and I'm trying to to compile a complete "What's wrong with Dash" list, so is there's anything else, please make yourself heard.

WRT to suggestions I think the problem is that most people here are not overly bothered by it in the first place. I mean, it looks to me as if the biggest issue it creates is daily troll postings on the subject, and the ignore button pretty much fixes that. In your opinion, how exactly does it hurt the cryptocoin community?

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:39:54 PM

.... If you talk to people in the crypto community who have nothing to do with either coin if they've heard of it, they are well aware of the "darkcoin instamine" ....

Oh this thread would have been so dead if you would have told that to our world improvers on mission ... mr. icebreaker and adam white ... who are just here to tell everybody "instamine intamine instamine" .... because they think nobody knows about it ...

and you are not better in that, you write that they are all very aware of the "instamine", but then on the other hand, you are talking about that we were hiding the facts of the launch .... how can a "fact" be hidden and at the same time known well by most?!

bigrcanada

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The following are known trolls…and have been engaging in aggressive and abusive forum behavior.

AdamWhite
TheDasher
ICEBREAKER
YOURMOTHER
Dnaleor
Smoothie
Smooth!

Though...We would like to thank them for keeping us top of mind on bitcointalk. As the saying goes... There is no bad publicity! Thanks…

"If someone says they really don't like your project, they really do like your project and are jealous!"

illodin

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 06:01:43 PM

But if you really believe 'jelly' is a dominant factor, then Dash is screwed either way. You can't wish away the 'jelly' factor any more than you can wish away the 'instamine scam' disgust factor. It is still part of human nature, even if, again, you, illodin don't consider it the right way to think.

I believe I said it is an issue that affects emotional "investors" and speculators. User's don't care.

Jelly seems indeed to be a dominant factor in these forums filled with emotional "investors" and speculators though.

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Quote from: AdamWhite on October 31, 2015, 06:19:21 PM

I can't believe that hundreds of DASH holders are ok with the Instamine explanation.

Mr White...what are you supporting and using for digital currency that is better then DASH....we are all curious as to what meets your high standards?

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Quote from: Minotaur26 on October 31, 2015, 06:12:26 PM

I believe Monero's funding system is fatally broken and produces stagnant development and lack of accountability for delays but that is just my opinion and I may be wrong.

Much better to fraudulently instamine 30% of the coins currently in circulation and then try to cover it up like DASH has done, right Minotaur?

AzzAz

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:41:16 PM

Quote from: Macrochip on October 31, 2015, 05:38:26 PM

One more farewell post or more insecure trolling?

Sincere criticism is not trolling. There may be nothing Dash can do to erase its disastrous history, and that ultimately will likely lead to its demise, but there are things it can do now to avoid making matters even worse, which include not trying to hide the disastrous history.

Smooth, haven't you said you're done with this tread and will not post here anymore two-or so days ago? And month-two also, same? And you are back and back yet again?
But you have that need ha? You must tell us that about instamine? What it was about son?

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Quote from: toknormal on October 31, 2015, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:31:50 PM

At this point I don't know that there is anything Dash can do. The cryptocoin community just needs to move on to coins that don't have it's baggage, which in time I'm confident will happen, just as the Bitcoin community moved on from most of the worst scams and frauds. If you have constructive suggestions though other than "the instamine happened, get over it", or "we'll just delete everything from the OP and make believe it never happened", both of which I truly do not believe is ever going to work, I'm open to hearing them.

Your attempts at constructive mallevolence are a bit cringeable. In the monetary history of humankind, never has the 'launch' or initial distribution of any monetary medium impacted on its ultimate suitability to function as a base, unbacked store of value.

Also, there is no asset known to man that doesn't have "baggage". Not gold, not dollars, not equity and not bitcoin. So your little raindance is bogus.

Despite that, the code is up there. Feel free to relaunch yourself if you really think it's so critical. You won't because you don't and yet you're even less likely to argue a case on pure monetary grounds because there isn't one for you to make.

Thank you!

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 06:01:43 PM

I sick and tired of the word play by you Smooth. your a snake...you play koi in one hand baiting people by being Smooth...then sticking your sharp dagger in the side.

Your name suits you sir....by the same reason why dozens of users have you on ignore...its because, you pretend to be righteous...all the while pushing your agenda of hate.

Dash was instamined...Evan said it was a mistake. You choose not to believe him....I and obviously many others do. Done.

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 05:31:50 PM

At this point I don't know that there is anything Dash can do. The cryptocoin community just needs to move on to coins that don't have it's baggage, which in time I'm confident will happen, just as the Bitcoin community moved on from most of the worst scams and frauds. If you have constructive suggestions though other than "the instamine happened, get over it", or "we'll just delete everything from the OP and make believe it never happened", both of which I truly do not believe is ever going to work, I'm open to hearing them.

Your attempts at constructive mallevolence are a bit cringeable. In the monetary history of humankind, never has the 'launch' or initial distribution of any monetary medium impacted on its ultimate suitability to function as a base, unbacked store of value.

Also, there is no asset known to man that doesn't have "baggage". Not gold, not dollars, not equity and not bitcoin. So your little raindance is bogus.

Despite that, the code is up there. Feel free to relaunch yourself if you really think it's so critical. You won't because you don't and yet you're even less likely to argue a case on pure monetary grounds because there isn't one for you to make.

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 06:01:43 PM

Quote from: illodin on October 31, 2015, 05:53:49 PM

The "issue" is people who missed the cheap coins are jelly and butt hurt.

That's not the issue because the same can be said for other coins which don't get the same negative reaction.

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That is also the reason why banks are interested in "blockchain" and not in buying Bitcoins from the early adopters

Some people are trying to do that sure, and I'm not sure there is one reason for it either. Some probably want features and characteristics (for example some forms of regulatory compliance, a different security model, etc.) that Bitcoin doesn't offer. I see at the same time a lot of people not terribly concerned about the price being too high and building businesses and services on and around Bitcoin right now.

Now I don't really see that with any alt, with the possibly exception of Ethereum, but at least in the case of Bitcoin and a few other coins, people don't come to it with an additional negative perception that encourages building something else or going elsewhere as they do with Dash.

But if you really believe 'jelly' is a dominant factor, then Dash is screwed either way. You can't wish away the 'jelly' factor any more than you can wish away the 'instamine scam' disgust factor. It is still part of human nature, even if, again, you, illodin don't consider it the right way to think.

If the model is fatally broken, and it is, then it doesn't matter exactly why. Same outcome.

That has not being our experience presenting Dash to people and talking about it with industry leaders. In fact it has been extremely positive and a lot of people are excited about it and getting involved. By your same logic "fatally broken" is just your opinion and you can't just wish for it to be true.

I believe Monero's funding system is fatally broken and produces stagnant development and lack of accountability for delays but that is just my opinion and I may be wrong.

The important thing is it does not matter what I think time will reveal the truth.

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Quote from: smooth on October 31, 2015, 06:01:43 PM

Quote from: illodin on October 31, 2015, 05:53:49 PM

The "issue" is people who missed the cheap coins are jelly and butt hurt.

That's not the issue because the same can be said for other coins which don't get the same negative reaction.

The amount of jelly butt hurt is proportional to the amount of easily amassed cheap coins and their potential profits one has missed. And as you can attest, the amount of cheap coins has been exceptional in case of Dash.

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