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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1689. (Read 9723973 times)

legendary
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 No way!! Tante, nice one!!

EVERYONE, PLEASE!!  DO NOT CONTACT HIM !!!!
 IT MAY VERY WELL SCARE HIM OFF IF HE GETS A SUDDEN MSG BOMB !!! LETS DO THIS PROPERLY PLEASE !!


 We have no clue what actually happened. He could have gone to jail for a year for doing crypto stuff, who knows? Lets use the proper channels for this, please!!

Ok, but do let us know if you find him and let him know we wish him well!
hero member
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The guy sold and left and does not want to be contacted. Why can't you guys get that? If he wanted to say hello here he probably would.


Well there's a raft of wild assumptions if ever there was!

What makes you certain and sure that he 1) sold 2) left and 3) doesn't want to be contacted?
sr. member
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The guy sold and left and does not want to be contacted. Why can't you guys get that? If he wanted to say hello here he probably would.
hero member
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Love this coin!!! Great energy here except for DASHER , ice breaker, and the other dude adam
legendary
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This seems current. Is it "our" chaeplin? https://github.com/chaeplin



Oh, he has a facebook page!  It says send "him" a friend request https://www.facebook.com/chaeplin  same dog....

 No way!! Tante, nice one!!

EVERYONE, PLEASE!!  DO NOT CONTACT HIM !!!!
 IT MAY VERY WELL SCARE HIM OFF IF HE GETS A SUDDEN MSG BOMB !!! LETS DO THIS PROPERLY PLEASE AND USE THE PROPER CHANNELS!!
NOT CRACKBOOK !!


 We have no clue what actually happened. He could have gone to jail for a year for doing crypto stuff, who knows? Lets use the proper channels for this, please!!
sr. member
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Question:

When I tie up 1000 coins in a node how long does it take to stop the node and withdraw my coin?

The 1000 coins are just sitting in your local wallet, or in a cold wallet of your choosing (in a single address). No coins actually sit on the masternode itself or are locked in any way. Spending the coins is exactly the same as any other coins you hold. If you spend all or a portion of the 1000 coins the masternode simply stops being active and you will no longer receive payments. You can reactivate it at any time by sending 1000 coins to a new address and updating the config.



The 1000 DASH are not sitting in your wallet per se.  They are an unspent output of a prior transaction.  That means that the 1000 DASH are sitting out there on the network waiting for you.  By using your private key, you can send them to another address at any time, like if you want to trade DASH for goods or services.  You can buy a pizza and a six pack of beer for example.

When you set up a masternode, it verifies that the 1000 DASH are still where you said they would be.  If you transfer any part of that 1000 somewhere else, the 1000 are not still intact.  The masternode will go offline at that point.

The original choice of the term "wallet", while easy for end users to understand is not quite accurate.  A much better choice of term is "keyring".  It is a thing that holds your keys.  You can have a spare set of keys to your car or your DASH sitting in your drawer at home.  




Strictly speaking, a wallet doesn't hold any funds.  It holds your public and private keys.  Maybe in the next "evolution", we can fix this misunderstanding.  



In other words these coins used for a masternode are vulnerable to being stolen.  They cannot be placed in a cold wallet for safe keeping.
legendary
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This seems current. Is it "our" chaeplin? https://github.com/chaeplin



If only it were!  Wouldn't that be nice?  But somehow the puppy doesn't feel right?  Maybe his daughter?  It's certainly a clue, can we contact that person through git?

 Holy moly! It actually does seem it's him! I see Xcoin and p2pool-drk repos in there.
Recent activity from May onwards too... coincidence? question is, account taken over, or "our" chaeplin ?
 Git nerds, please unite. I just need something written by him in plain english and I think I'd be able to tell

 How can one contact someone through the hub? We must let him know there is much love for him around these parts, at least a word from him would be nice.
legendary
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I don't think any of us think it's a humorous subject.  I think we were expressing our loss, and wish that he'd come back.  I must say that I'm kind of glad to hear he was from SK, as that is a fine country to live in, but I fear that probably means he is probably gone.  He seems too young in that picture to die, but?  Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I also don't think he'd just disappear like that otherwise.  Friends and family have no way to know how to log into forums to let friends know what happened, so.  Well, like I said, I hope he comes back again some day.

 Talking about the milk carton thing, touched a wound of mine... I really got pissed off he just vanished  Undecided
I doubt he vanished on purpose.  Lots of people die every day.  Car accidents, illness, etc... It's gut wrenching to lose someone like that.  And I honestly hope he disappeared for some other reason (like he was obsessed and his wife told him to stop or else).  'cause he just was too awesome for the world to lose!
newbie
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This seems current. Is it "our" chaeplin? https://github.com/chaeplin



If only it were!  Wouldn't that be nice?  But somehow the puppy doesn't feel right?  Maybe his daughter?  It's certainly a clue, can we contact that person through git?

That used to be his github profile. Anyway. The sigpic has been changed, though. But some followers persist still :/
legendary
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I don't think any of us think it's a humorous subject.  I think we were expressing our loss, and wish that he'd come back.  I must say that I'm kind of glad to hear he was from SK, as that is a fine country to live in, but I fear that probably means he is probably gone.  He seems too young in that picture to die, but?  Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I also don't think he'd just disappear like that otherwise.  Friends and family have no way to know how to log into forums to let friends know what happened, so.  Well, like I said, I hope he comes back again some day.

 Talking about the milk carton thing, touched a wound of mine... I really got pissed off he just vanished  Undecided
legendary
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This seems current. Is it "our" chaeplin? https://github.com/chaeplin



If only it were!  Wouldn't that be nice?  But somehow the puppy doesn't feel right?  Maybe his daughter?  It's certainly a clue, can we contact that person through git?
legendary
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chaeplin, El Presidente, was from South Korea, so I don't think his sudden disappearance is such a humorous subject. He was highly motivated and contribute a ton and a half to development.

 He was a top contributer to Darkcoin, possibly the biggest one to date, in proportion to devs and code written to date. Despite his sometimes hard to follow english, his tutorials were what made me learn linux, grasp the Masternode concept, and not be scared to give it a shot.

 Before Elberethzone's dashninja.pl, his website was the only way, and true blessing, to monitor the network. His work was nothing short of amazing.

 He was also a wonderful person on a 1-to-1 basis.

 I owe this man quite a lot, and I really hope all is well with him.

I don't think any of us think it's a humorous subject.  I think we were expressing our loss, and wish that he'd come back.  I must say that I'm kind of glad to hear he was from SK, as that is a fine country to live in, but I fear that probably means he is probably gone.  He seems too young in that picture to die, but?  Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I also don't think he'd just disappear like that otherwise.  Friends and family have no way to know how to log into forums to let friends know what happened, so.  Well, like I said, I hope he comes back again some day.
legendary
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Cryptanalyst castrated by his government, 1952
legendary
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 chaeplin, El Presidente, was (is) from South Korea, so I don't think his sudden disappearance is such a humorous subject.
 
He was highly motivated and contributed a ton and a half to development. I doubt he disappeared into thin air by his own will, and I really suspect that May login.

 He was a top contributer to Darkcoin, possibly the biggest one to date, in proportion to devs and code written at the time. Despite his sometimes hard to follow english, his tutorials were what made me learn linux, grasp the Masternode concept, and not be scared to give it a shot.

 Before Elberethzone's dashninja.pl, his website was the only way, and true blessing, to monitor the network. His work was nothing short of amazing.

 He was also a wonderful person on a 1-to-1 basis.

 I owe this man quite a lot, and I really hope all is well with him.
hero member
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I don't miss vertoe. I do miss chaeplin though.


I really miss chaeplin too.  Brilliant.  It's always disconcerting and worrisome when someone you know on a forum disappears.  No way to find out if they're OK or dead, or captured or what Sad


I've always leaned towards dead or captured, just to add to the mystery....


But really I keep thinking ......


!!RE-ELECT EL PRESIDENTE!!

!!RE-ELECT EL PRESIDENTE!!



truth is - It's been a year now and - nothing.....

.....So he graduates to the next level.....




?HAVE YOU SEEN ME Huh ME HAS VISTO Huh VOCÊ VIU ME Huh 你见过我吗?


Hilarious Mangled Blue!

But unfortunately whatever's happened to him might not be so funny.

Interestingly his last post was (as you've noted) a year ago on 18/Oct/2014. But his last sign-on here on BCT was in May of this year.

legendary
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I don't miss vertoe. I do miss chaeplin though.


I really miss chaeplin too.  Brilliant.  It's always disconcerting and worrisome when someone you know on a forum disappears.  No way to find out if they're OK or dead, or captured or what Sad


I've always leaned towards dead or captured, just to add to the mystery....


But really I keep thinking ......


!!RE-ELECT EL PRESIDENTE!!

!!RE-ELECT EL PRESIDENTE!!



truth is - It's been a year now and - nothing.....

.....So he graduates to the next level.....




?HAVE YOU SEEN ME Huh ME HAS VISTO Huh VOCÊ VIU ME Huh 你见过我吗?

I like to go with captured because it's less permanent, and slightly more romantic to think he's still fighting the good fight.  Thanks for putting him on the milk carton, maybe it'll help locate him  Cry
legendary
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Kind of in agreement too but I do see a place for them if they're developing external systems for later integration. Like the budgeting system for example, that's just a simple yay or nay at the mo but it could expand in all kinds of ways, tracking progress, satisfaction on completion, all kinds of things. It's uncharted territory and finding what works will need all kinds of experimentation, not the kind of thing that can just be thrown into the client and hope for the best, trying them out externally beforehand as part of the development process makes sense imho. Those risks associated with third party services are still there though so folks that really understand security would sway my opinion.

Good points, didn't even think of that!
legendary
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-snip-

Yah, I'm still "discussing" it because I still think it's immensely important that we should support them.  Just my point of view and if I could convince someone, great.

Well I just thought I would contribute since I have a slightly more practical position in this kind of thing.  In my case I am more interested in knowing if a project manager is going to fund the expenses he has without selling the Dash in exchanges, something like Shapeshift still means selling it in exchanges. That is the key for me at this stage, if someone is going to pay for all of their server expenses with their own FIAT and is just looking keep the Dash then that is the key for me, as that project manager is for all intents and purposes providing the OTC liquidity for his own project.

That is for example a requirement for any official spending we have done so far, not a single coin sold in an exchange is our goal.

Having said this, this is just a priority for me at this point in time, as the system grows and there is more liquidity then that wont matter as much. But we cant forget that the network just gives us tokens and the ecosystem is not mature enough to just support direct spending of Dash without us being careful about it.

The good news is that we can take on a project of any size as long as we can also find an sponsor that is willing to support it and keep the Dash for himself to run nodes and pay for the expenses. That is the whole reason behind our OTC program, and if a 3rd party service that is really important for Dash offers that type of reassurance I would be more inclined to support it. Just my personal view.
legendary
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but dashwhale is paid service, its better if community willing to create their own website with these capability and funded by community.


DashWhale is NOT a paid service and it was built by a community member with core team support and help.  It was built out of Evan's vision on how the interaction between community, project proposers and MN voters would interact.  It's awesome that someone built it.  And they built it first before asking for money to show the vision, so we all could understand.  Yet we don't understand an inkling.

That's the problem, it should be! No free lunch. If you start to subsidize one player it gets an unfair competitive advantage, MN operators will move to that service (lower costs) -> centralization  -> concentration of power. Just like the government...
legendary
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When and if a serious attempt is made to destroy DASH it could well take the form of an irresistible honeypot app. Dashwhale, moocowmoo and node40's services are so appealing that they provide a useful hint of what could - some day - be big centralized trouble. I hope they and all future devs can go out of their way to demonstrate that there are no centralized vulnerabilities in their services (email databases being one obvious vulnerability, ahem).

I absolutely do not want to demean those devs - I use some of their apps and am grateful to have them - but that's the problem (or future problem). Trusting Internet Strangers is dangerous. Trusting long-time allies is also dangerous (see Vertoe).

Gotta stay trustless.

Crude example: imagine a perfect app that sends daily email summaries of everything a MN operator would want to know - a perfect jewel. Under the hood is a database of MN owners that could be hacked or subpoenaed. The coin protocol security is thus compromised by a third-party app, even if its dev has no bad intentions.

I agree with you on this one.  I finally ended up signing up for Dashwhale so I could post, but I was irritated that they wanted an email.  It would actually be best to just have people "sign up" with an alias and that's it.  After all, the world currency that Dash is, should allow anyone to speak up on the forum.  I'd also like to see the forum decentralized, so that it can continue on even if DashWhale went out of existence, so that anyone that is willing to put it on their website, can, and the information stays updated and no matter what site you use to participate through, all websites dish out the same posts seamlessly.

That way it can feel like a centralized hub, but actually be completely decentralized forum.
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